Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

[Dragon1965]

Dragon1965, the only important fact is that you can find your save-files - and here I wish you good luck and that one of the hints is working for you!

Yeah, couldn't find anything with *.sav, but I ran the game as administrator and bam, the game saved like a champ.

Thanks for the assist guys, much appreciated.

 

[Takhisis]

Remember to always run it as administrator.

 

[md4]

I'm fairly sure I've read that you can avoid the whole virtualstore issue by installing it to somewhere other than Program Files (such as simply "C:\Civ3"). It might save some headaches down the road.

 

[Takhisis]

That certainly works for earlier versions of Windows. The only Windows 10 computer we have here is a work-only device (except for a certain somebody sneakily installing World of Tanks) so I haven't been able to do some much-needed testing.

 

[WeirdoJoker]

What does it mean that a Wonder has become "obsolete"? I assume that means that whatever ongoing effect it has ceases. But what about something like the Great Library? The only effect it has is to give a free tech.

 

[md4]

The Great Library gives you any technology known to at least 2 other civilisations, and it continues to do this as other civilisations discover and trade new technologies. It is obsoleted by Education. You might be thinking of The Theory of Evolution, which immediately gives you 2 free technologies upon construction.

 

[Takhisis]

*civilizations you're in contact with

 

[WeirdoJoker]

The Great Library gives you any technology known to at least 2 other civilisations, and it continues to do this....

I did not realize the effect continued. I have not built the GL in so long I never noticed it had done that. I thought it was a one-time thing.

 

[vmxa]

To be clear, the Great Lib is obsolete, when the owner learns Education. That means, that you can capture it later and gain all the tech known by at least two other civs, that you know, as long as you have not learned education. The importance of this is in games like Deity and Sid, when you deliberately avoid Education to gain the techs.

 

[Dragon1965]

*civilizations you're in contact with

Wow, didn't know of that limitation.

 

[justanick]

To be clear, the Great Lib is obsolete, when the owner learns Education. That means, that you can capture it later and gain all the tech known by at least two other civs, that you know, as long as you have not learned education.

There are a few exceptions to this rule. You can only gain those techs that you have the prerequisite for. One would assume that this is always the case and it is almost always the case. But there a few exceptions. Music theory seems to be one of them, amphibic warfare is another one and possibly space flight,too. The later is not confirmed.

As i recall it the techs are checked in the order in which they are listed in the editor. This means that a few techs would only be gained a turn later by which time the wonder has come obsolete already.

 

[Takhisis]

The Great Library can result in your suddenly meeting a new civ and gaining several new techs in the interturn. It that happens you were in trouble and you still will be, because by then the AI (which cheats) will have already built itself an entire new level of city improvements e.g. Universities and Banks which will result in a *lot* of extra science expenditure. It's still better than nothing, of course.

 

[WeirdoJoker]

Has anyone noticed a practical difference between playing the Ottomans and Persia (both Scientific/Industrious), apart from the different unique units (Immortal/early Ancient vs. Sipahi/late Middle)?

 

[CKS]

No, but I like playing the Ottomans better. I like Sipahi better than Immortals, but this may not be the whole reason.
I also like playing the Koreans better than I like playing the Greeks, despite the fact that hoplites are a better UU for me (since I'm never prepared to be attacked early on) and I often don't get around to building H'wacha before they are obsolete.

 

[WeirdoJoker]

No, but I like playing the Ottomans better. I like Sipahi better than Immortals, but this may not be the whole reason.

Same here. Not only that, but I'd hate to build a bunch of Immortals for an invasion (which I rarely do in the Ancient Age, anyway), then trigger a GA at that time as opposed to at a later, more opportune time.

I also like playing the Koreans better than I like playing the Greeks, despite the fact that hoplites are a better UU for me (since I'm never prepared to be attacked early on) and I often don't get around to building H'wacha before they are obsolete.

For some reason I like the Greeks better ... I have basically never even used a H'wacha that I can remember.

 

[Aabraxan]

Has anyone noticed a practical difference between playing the Ottomans and Persia (both Scientific/Industrious), apart from the different unique units (Immortal/early Ancient vs. Sipahi/late Middle)?

I've noticed no difference except for the UUs. That said, the different UUs make for an entirely different game. Do I want to crush my neighbor early, or later?

 

[Takhisis]

Medieval Infantry twenty techs earlier and for 25% less? Are you nuts? Persians hands down.

 

[Aabraxan]

Immortals are definitely an early war powerhouse.

 

[Takhisis]

Also I have to say that Immortals and their scimitars vs. pistol-wielding Sipahis reminds me, more than anything else, of Indy vs. the swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

 

[MadMac]

Hi everyone! I really hope I'm posting in the right thread. Over the past few months I have been getting back into civ 3. I have created a couple custom maps and while they have been fun to play on, I have noticed that when I click on a city to get into the city screen I noticed that there is no city view icon (the eye with the diamond.) It seems I can't use the feature at all. This is also true when I'm notified that a wonder has been built. Again, no city view icon.

I've been kind of annoyed by that since that's a feature I really like in this game and I can't seem to use it when I make my own map or when I play custom maps other people created for that matter. I can't seem to find a way to activate the city view in the civ3edit program either... So can I just not add it as a feature? Are city views in custom made games just not a thing? If one or more of you could let me know and tell me what to do if I can fix the issue that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!