Real-Life Civilization

[Lexicus]

I'm sure this is fairly cliche, but one thing I like doing is imagining real-life events in Civ terms.

Bronze Age collapse=one of those barb-spawning events took out Egypt, Mycenae, etc.

Mongols Keshik rushed China.

China obviously discovered philosophy ~470 BC.

Rome discovered Theology ~35 AD.

Spain circumnavigates the Earth in 1522 AD.

England use Liberalism to slingshot Steam Power to get a tech lead

In the Franco-Prussian war Bismarck researched Artillery when France still just had cannons

Russians didn't take Warsaw until the turn after it had a slave revolt.

 

[Flipantropo]

The Mayan civilization was destroyed by unhappiness from sacrificing population and failure to research The Wheel and Iron Working

 

[civfanchambers]

Islam was founded in Mecca when the Arabs spawned the great prophet Mohammed and bulbed divine right.

 

[Lexicus]

Modern-era US became the runaway AI after Europe's economy got screwed by World War I.

 

[Seraiel]

Modern-era US became the runaway AI after Europe's economy got screwed by World War I.

Where is america further developed than europe? Just interested, because I've heard stupid things from americans like "Germans don't even have refrigerators!" , which of course is untrue.

 

[HeliosDisciple]

Where is america further developed than europe? Just interested, because I've heard stupid things from americans like "Germans don't even have refrigerators!" , which of course is untrue.

We built Manhattan and Apollo, the UN, and nearly all the modern wonders.

Nobody wants to put in the effort for a Science victory, though, so we keep flipping between Domination and Diplomatic attempts. I think we might just be trying for Score at this point.

 

[plasmacannon]

Ottomans bulb Steel tech and produce cannons to capture the Byzantine Capitol of Constantinople in 1453.
England creates a new colony on another land mass. America is created in 1776.
America bulb's Industrialism, builds a few marines. Then sends Frigates to defeat Carthage ships (who were blocking their trade routes) and their new marines stack to capture Tripoli in 1805.
Zulu's SOD of mostly Impis 10 times the size of England's Riflemen stack attacked and won in 1879.

 

[Seraiel]

We built Manhattan and Apollo, the UN, and nearly all the modern wonders.

Nobody wants to put in the effort for a Science victory, though, so we keep flipping between Domination and Diplomatic attempts. I think we might just be trying for Score at this point.

Manhatten has nothing to do with being closer to a win. I'm also guessing, but I believe that the number of Nukes of the russians equals those of the Americans.

The UN's Secretary General is no American.

The culture produced by the lategame Wonders the americans have is isnignificant compared to the wonders in europe. The americans don't run with a high culture slider, nor do they hire as many Artists as the europeans do.

Science victory could very well come from europe, the French are currently researching Fusion.

And a diplomatic victory by america? Never, big part of the countries outside of america hate america, also, your spies have been cought causing us trouble ^^ .

I give you that point for a possible domination victory though, because america has a lot of troops and is trying to occupy some of Arab states. The UN often votes that america has to give back the cities to their owners though.

 

[Hauptman]

Lenin undergoes 3 turns of anarchy (during a war) to change civics to Communism.

5 turns later Stalin undergoes another 5 turns of anarchy to change to slavery, and whip out factories, Germans invade again. Luckily Stalin can sacrifice pop points for tanks and infantry.

 

[Flipantropo]

We built Manhattan and Apollo, the UN, and nearly all the modern wonders.

Nobody wants to put in the effort for a Science victory, though, so we keep flipping between Domination and Diplomatic attempts. I think we might just be trying for Score at this point.

But China has comparable land area and like 3-4 times more population. Perhaps they have less vassals tough.

 

[Seraiel]

But China has comparable land area and like 3-4 times more population. Perhaps they have less vassals tough.

No wonder with having an insane amount of rice-resources and Sushi having been founded in the neighbouring Japan!

 

[Major Tom]

China is currently successfully running Bureaucracy in their large cities. High amount of hammers for military lead, techbeakers enough to outtech the rest, great spies to steal reamaining and enough cash to buy rest of the world (Africa soon wholly owned vassal).

 

[Lennier]

Nobody wants to put in the effort for a Science victory, though, so we keep flipping between Domination and Diplomatic attempts. I think we might just be trying for Score at this point.

America is a runaway AI--it's not programmed to win.

Manhatten has nothing to do with being closer to a win. I'm also guessing, but I believe that the number of Nukes of the russians equals those of the Americans.

The point was the the US built the Manhattan project, demonstrating a tech lead. That Russia used a spies to steal fission and rocketry is besides the point.

The UN's Secretary General is no American.

But the UN was undeniably built by the US (in New York), again demonstrating a tech lead.

China is currently successfully running Bureaucracy in their large cities.

Bureaucracy only affects one city--the capitol. Perhaps State Property is giving them a 10% boost to production? Except that they've been running Free Market since about the mid-'80s.

 

[Seraiel]

The point was the the US built the Manhattan project, demonstrating a tech lead. That Russia used a spies to steal fission and rocketry is besides the point.

But the UN was undeniably built by the US (in New York), again demonstrating a tech lead.

The americans simply were the first to research Fission and Mass Media, that doesn't mean that they're more advanced than the other Civs! As already written, France currently researches Fusion, Germans are researching Robotics, how can one country even be a runaway country in times of the Internet?

 

[Zacar]

China discovered gunpowder 900 - 1300 AD.

 

[Lexicus]

Well, Europe is basically along with us in tech, but US is far bigger than Europe. I mean, we have about a third of the population of all of Europe combined and more than twice as many people as Russia which is the most populous European country. Our GDP is also only slightly lower than the GDP of the entire European Union.

I think it's pretty obvious US overtakes England in score sometime between 1910 and 1920, and we're definitely still the score leader, though Germany made some good tries to overtake England.

England and other European countries only overtook China in about 1800. China was score leader from about 2000BC on, before that it was Sumer, Babylon, and Egypt (I forget in exactly what order).

Half of Europe ended up our peacevassals because of WWII, and we gifted a bunch of techs and gold in the ten turns after the war to help them get on their feet.

Science victory could very well come from europe, the French are currently researching Fusion.

Yeah, but they're running the science slider at 10% because of austerity so it will take 1500 turns


Anyway in the French Revolution Napoleon has to deal with the rest of Europe having Open Borders so Russian stacks keep attacking him.

 

[Seraiel]

Yeah, but they're running the science slider at 10% because of austerity so it will take 1500 turns

This made me laugh. Thx .

 

[Macksideshow]

This thread is gold.

Australia maintains middle power status despite having low pop and lots of desert/brown tiles by virtue of having excess strategic resources which they can trade to fund deficit research.

 

[Pangaea]

So World War II is already won, but we have these nukes sitting about. Let's see what they do, just for lols.

Vikings build early Caravels (Astronomy..? well..) and get foreign trade with Russia, the Middle East and Greenland/Iceland. Then see all the juicy gold and riverside grassland in England, and decide they want a bigger piece of the pie. England have largely been omitting their military, focusing on developing the economy, so were kind of boned.

The Romans forgot to spawnbust, and got into serious barb problems.

 

[Hauptman]

Remember America got a late start, being a released vassal from colonies and all.

Shortly after the civil war, they made the switch to pacifism (in theory, not practice), and by 1900 all the extra GP points spawned many, many, MANY, great people. Engineers, scientists, and artists.

After WWI we started our first golden age. As soon as that golden age ended, Roosevelt started a crash worker build to get those tiles improved. WWII interrupted that, but the invasion sparked off another golden age. Rooselvelt made the switch to "Universal sufferage" from representation and had all those new workers spam cottages. He was then able to purchass a huge military machine and a few wonders.

After the war the cottages quickly matured to towns.... so quickly that they replaced every mine, workshop, watermill with more cottages. Farms and towns, as far as the eye can see. We had a couple more GP pops but they were all worthless artists. Every single one of them.

In the '60s. Nixon switched out of Universal Suffrage to police state, in order to quell war weariness. and it never got switched back. We didnt need to buy any builds anymore anyways, since all cities are building "culture" anyhow.