Redrawing the Map

[Rossiya]

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

And the grey areas?

Here be dragons.

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Here be dragons.

That phrase always reminds me of this map, which I find kinda cute:

 

[Rossiya]

Independence For:

Basqueland

Countries no longer existing:

Albania (joined with Italy)
Switzerland [divided between france, germany and italy (Chur, Bellinzona]
Cyprus [joined with greece]
Austria [joined with germany]
Moldova [joined with romania]
Belgium [divided between france, netherlands and germany]
Monaco (given to Italy)
San Marino (given to italy)
Vatican City (given to Italy)
Malta (given to Italy)


Territorial Exchanges:

Romania cedes tract of land on hungarian border to hungary
Romania recieves ismail region from Ukraine
Turkey cedes some unimportant Aegean islands to Greece
Turkey cedes European Turkey to Greece.
Serbia cedes Kosovo to Albania
Serbia cedes szekelys [if thats wha its called. its north vojvodina, anyway] to Hungary
france cedes corsica, nice, savoy to italy
Russia cedes Karelia to Finland
Finland cedes Aland to sweden
Slovenia cedes western half of it's country to Italy
Croatia gives Istria, Adriatic islands, and Dalmatia to Italy
Greece cedes Corfu to Italy

 

[Ingvina Freyr]

I compleatly agree with that map, Just remember that the capital has to be located on a new artificial island. That way, everyone will be equally mad and angry that THEIR capital didn't make it.

Another way of getting around the prestige issues is to put departments in different cities. For example the department of culture could be situated in Reykjavík, the department of defence in Helsinki and so on. Decentralisation in a typical Scandinavian way.

Also, I think we ought to give Svalbard the official title of "Vassal", their tribute could be two polar bears a year. The only reason for this is that I would really like to see a Svalbardian delegation walking up a main street with two polar bears in tow.

That makes us two, who really want to see that.

 

[Guangxi]

Independence For:

Basqueland

Countries no longer existing:

Albania (joined with Italy)
Switzerland [divided between france, germany and italy (Chur, Bellinzona]
Cyprus [joined with greece]
Austria [joined with germany]
Moldova [joined with romania]
Belgium [divided between france, netherlands and germany]
Monaco (given to Italy)
San Marino (given to italy)
Vatican City (given to Italy)
Malta (given to Italy)


Territorial Exchanges:

Romania cedes tract of land on hungarian border to hungary
Romania recieves ismail region from Ukraine
Turkey cedes some unimportant Aegean islands to Greece
Turkey cedes European Turkey to Greece.
Serbia cedes Kosovo to Albania
Serbia cedes szekelys [if thats wha its called. its north vojvodina, anyway] to Hungary
france cedes corsica, nice, savoy to italy
Russia cedes Karelia to Finland
Finland cedes Aland to sweden
Slovenia cedes western half of it's country to Italy
Croatia gives Istria, Adriatic islands, and Dalmatia to Italy
Greece cedes Corfu to Italy

Something like this?

 

[Rossiya]

Yes! But a land bridge with Albania, and Kosovo given to Montenegro.

 

[Kyriakos]

Southern Italy should be given to Greece

 

[Rossiya]

Yeah, if you go back to a few thousand BC or so. Some South Italian dialects still have some words of Greek origin.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well this is pure fantasy of course. Although a union of Greece with Magna Grecia would have been interesting

 

[Bill3000]

Yeah, if you go back to a few thousand BC or so. Some South Italian dialects still have some words of Greek origin.

Few thousand BC? More like 1000 AD.

 

[Guangxi]

 

[Rossiya]

Wahey Guanxi!

 

[Rossiya]

Few thousand BC? More like 1000 AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia

800BC according to wiki.

 

[Kyriakos]

Bill means the byzantine empire though A large part of Italy was byzantine up to the early 11th century AD.
And surely 800BC is just the beginning. Syracuse was still greek while rome was expanding.

 

[Rossiya]

Surely Naples (Napoli, Napule, Neapolis) was Greek as well then?

 

[Bill3000]

Surely Naples (Napoli, Napule, Neapolis) was Greek as well then?

It was indeed, until it was conquered by the Normans, pretty much. North of the Catapanate of Italy, but it had alligience with the Byzantine Empire for quite awhile, and as a result remained a Greek island in an Italian sea until it was conquered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catepan_of_Italy for the Byzantine province of Italy.

Anyway, as people can tell by now, I'm a Grecophile, particularly a Byzantophile, though I probably have no ethnical right to do so, unlike varwnos. Through heritage, I'm probably as Catholic as you can get - Southern German and Southern Italian is the main parts of my ethnical background. (The latter can sorta mean Byzantine though! ...I guess )

 

[Rossiya]

Through heritage, I'm probably as Catholic as you can get - Southern German and Southern Italian is the main parts of my ethnical background. (The latter can sorta mean Byzantine though! ...I guess )

Add yourself to the "Posters of Italian descent" category on the wiki OT forum.

 

[Kyriakos]

Ethinicity should not stand in the way of one's interests

Here is a map of the Byzantine empire under the infamous Basil II

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

well, no. i just dont count a religion as an ethnicity..

No, but it is an important factor. One could say that just because the Croatians and Serbians have a different religion and alphabet, doesn't mean they shouldn't be amalgamated into some sort of... greater southern Slavic state. But what the hell would we call it?

Just saying that by saying the Bosnian Muslims should be joined with Serbia, but the Croatians shouldn't is sort of contradictory.