Relationships between AI Civs

[nzcamel]

Donald23 who is in the Frankenstein Test Group has confirmed -over at the We Play Civ site- that when you are on leader x's screen; the views presented there are the other leaders views of leader x.

Thanks Donald23!

 

[Forster]

Good, so I am not going crazy.

 

[Victoria]

But I am

 

[nzcamel]

It'd be nice to have a relationship screen in the reports tab which allows us to flick from leader to leader, and reverse whether we see what they think of others or others think of them at the click of a button, more like CIV. I suspect the UI will get a bit of an overhaul with the first expansion...

 

[Victoria]

The we play civ forum is a bit quiet
More like a we do not play civ site

 

[nzcamel]

Yeah Great people...but definitely not enough...

 

[Felis Renidens]

The we play civ forum is a bit quiet
More like a we do not play civ site

They play civ, so they don't have time to write in the forum...

 

[Forster]

Think so? I've been playing a lot since this came out and I still have time to check out what others are saying.

 

[Felis Renidens]

I only check this forum when I don't have time to play (I can usually play only during the weekend) but anyway this wasn't a very serious comment.

 

[Victoria]

It was a comment on the name of their forum @Forster

What I found ironic on their site was a thread about how much they play Civ6 and most the comments say 0

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Its weird, a denouncement is showing both ways. The way I have always considered it is it is their view of other civs amd that assumption has always worked for me but nothing proven.

I'm not sure the game makes a distinction here. Doesn't it appear exactly the same for the player? If I denounce it shows a red anger head and same thing if an opponent denounces me. With other diplomatic states there might be differences but I'm not sure how that works.

 

[nzcamel]

I'm not sure the game makes a distinction here. Doesn't it appear exactly the same for the player? If I denounce it shows a red anger head and same thing if an opponent denounces me. With other diplomatic states there might be differences but I'm not sure how that works.

Denouncements, Declared Friends, Allies, Defensive Pacts - these are all mutual.

Unfriendly, Neutral, and Friendly can vary (as evidenced in the pictures I attach at the beginning of this thread ).

 

[ShinigamiKenji]

I usually check the forum when I'm waiting for my turn...

Nice to know it works just as ours icons do.

 

[Forster]

It was a comment on the name of their forum @Forster

What I found ironic on their site was a thread about how much they play Civ6 and most the comments say 0

That is surprising.

 

[Victoria]

Donald23 who is in the Frankenstein Test Group has confirmed -over at the We Play Civ site- that when you are on leader x's screen; the views presented there are the other leaders views of leader x.

Just who is this Donald and why should we believe him?

I state this because of the following I have just found

Gorgo shows this

Monty Shows this

Saladin Shows this

If I ask Gorgo for a joint war she offers Saladin and Monty as options
If I ask Monty for a joint war he offers Saladin and Mvemba
If I ask Saladin for a joint war he offers Cleo, Mvemba and Monty

Its is pretty clear from this you will only get a joint war against civs a civ dislikes or hates
I therefore pose I have tested this (twice) and am now pretty sure it is the civs view of other civs you are looking at

This test is done from the same save there is a bug I spotted in so you can check the .sav at
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/1-0-0-129-cleo-is-deluded.613406/

I have no idea who the Frankenstein group is but I am now in a situation I could joint war with you against them (same points as a Casus)

 

[nzcamel]

Re Donald23 first - here he is in the credits of the game. Clearly they are a test group, as in there are people more qualified to comment; but I doubt we're going to hear from them anytime soon And I doubt Donald would be wrong....

Spoiler credits :

As to your proposal, I can't say that you are wrong. It would be helpful if you uploaded Mvemba & Cleo's relationships too, so we can see what is there. To play the devils advocate against you from the info you have given us; maybe some civs will offer war even when neutral as in the case of Gorgo. That would fit her personality in the game.
It is always interesting who the Civs will go for a joint war against. I should keep a better track of it as you have been doing.

Moderator Action: Large image wrapped inside spoiler tags -- Jon

 

[nzcamel]

@MadDjinn @Browd @Gorbles

What is your take on this?

 

[nzcamel]

It's funny how no one here who's more likely to be in the know wants to comment on this...

 

[Victoria]

I see it like this.

My testing seems to be correct but I am also seeing the smileys are missing sometimes and there are other bugs.
If I have such are hard time working out the validity,mdid the Frankenstein group even go near this... I doubt it.
It is very tempting and easy for anyone to state something as fact from experience, its natural and not always right
I guess Ill just keep an eye on it moving forward which I am doing in my current game. I just pop in every now and then and see who people are willing to joint war,seems an eady way to check
Given up testing at the moment as its really boring and I am busy anyway

 

[nzcamel]

If I have such are hard time working out the validity,mdid the Frankenstein group even go near this... I doubt it.

I just figure in their extra hours of playing the game over the previous whatever length to release, that they would have clarified this with their Firaxis contacts.