Religions before the Age of Rebirth.
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Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Well, the most prominent religion in the Age of Magic was the worship of Bhall. The Order did not exist, it wasn't until recent years that Junil decided to interfere
Corlis
Warlord
I remember reading that Danalin had worshippers then, and that the founder of the Elohim was a priest of Sirona of some sort. I imagine that most of the gods had worshippers and religions devoted to them at the time, though they likely weren't in the same form as in the AoR
cyther
Lord of the Dance
Mulcarn had many Illians to follow him but the rituals to summon him and the wars against the Illians made it so that The White Hand had very few followers by the time the Age of Rebirth had begun.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Mulcarn never had many followers. That is a big part of why he chose to invade and wipe out those ungrateful civilizations. The Illians were once of the Patrian factions, but they had always been the smallest and weakest. They were probably only kept alive during the civil war by the fact that no one really wanted their barren land. Mulcarn was not seen a a real threat in the Age of Magic, so his priests were generally tolerated everywhere. However, they were horrible at evangelizing so they never had large numbers.
It is probably true that all the gods had at least a few worshipers dating back into the Age of Dragons, but the religions are rather new. We know that Immanuel Logos was a priest-king of Sirona, but that he gave up this position in order to tend to the orphans of those of all faiths. Nominally he may have ceased to serve Sirona, but in doing so he more fully exemplified her precept than he had before.
Sucellus was worshiped by all Elves, and Danalin by all Aifons. Once the Dwarves were created, they all worshiped Kilmorph. Each of these gods probably had a few human worshipers as well.
The Worship of Ceridwen was really big in Patria, once Kylorin fell and made this the state religion. Before this, they had been more philosophical than religious. Cassiel had made his home among them, and was widely revered. Ceridwen's cult was mostly a religion for the upper class, so commoners probably remained non-religious or followed other gods, especially good ones.
Once Patria began disintegrating, Bhall worship really took off, as her power was the most effective against the sorcerers. Fire was a holy weapon at the time, which could be used indiscriminately against innocent and guilty and cause no harm to the innocent. It was judge, Jury, and Executioner. (Many sorcerers began praying to Danalin, hoping that this would help them better channel the power of water to combat the flames that would consume them). She had far more worshipers than any other god, maybe as many as all the others combined, at the time of her fall. This worship was centered at her great temple at the heart of the Bannor capital of Braduk, where the Eternal Flame was kept.
It is probably true that all the gods had at least a few worshipers dating back into the Age of Dragons, but the religions are rather new. We know that Immanuel Logos was a priest-king of Sirona, but that he gave up this position in order to tend to the orphans of those of all faiths. Nominally he may have ceased to serve Sirona, but in doing so he more fully exemplified her precept than he had before.
Sucellus was worshiped by all Elves, and Danalin by all Aifons. Once the Dwarves were created, they all worshiped Kilmorph. Each of these gods probably had a few human worshipers as well.
The Worship of Ceridwen was really big in Patria, once Kylorin fell and made this the state religion. Before this, they had been more philosophical than religious. Cassiel had made his home among them, and was widely revered. Ceridwen's cult was mostly a religion for the upper class, so commoners probably remained non-religious or followed other gods, especially good ones.
Once Patria began disintegrating, Bhall worship really took off, as her power was the most effective against the sorcerers. Fire was a holy weapon at the time, which could be used indiscriminately against innocent and guilty and cause no harm to the innocent. It was judge, Jury, and Executioner. (Many sorcerers began praying to Danalin, hoping that this would help them better channel the power of water to combat the flames that would consume them). She had far more worshipers than any other god, maybe as many as all the others combined, at the time of her fall. This worship was centered at her great temple at the heart of the Bannor capital of Braduk, where the Eternal Flame was kept.
Kael
Deity
One small correction, the Doviello didn't exist at all before the Age of Ice. Though their legends tell differently they were men who abandoned their people to exist only as primal, bestial hunters. There was no single even that created the Doviello nation, but many individual ones that created ravaging bands of wild men that had little respect for civilization or cities, and openly kill and took whatever they needed to survive.
The bloodline of the individual member was irrelevant, and they were from all human nations.
Mulcarn was the first to earn their respect enough that they wouldn't raid or attack those under his banner. Mulcarn in turn like the entropic effect they had on the world. Charadon was the first to see this culture as ideal and gathered the biggest bands of Doviello under him.
The bloodline of the individual member was irrelevant, and they were from all human nations.
Mulcarn was the first to earn their respect enough that they wouldn't raid or attack those under his banner. Mulcarn in turn like the entropic effect they had on the world. Charadon was the first to see this culture as ideal and gathered the biggest bands of Doviello under him.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
You should know that when I wrote Doviello I meant to type Illians.
Kael
Deity
Ahh, I wondered if thats what happened. Yeap thats exactly right then.
Skitters
Prince
Regarding the Doviello - considering their links with the Illians, shouldn't it be possible for them to follow the White Hand?
Kael
Deity
Not even the Illians can follow the White Hand (its not a religion in FfH).
I never understood why it's not. A mechanic to tie a religion to a civilization without limiting it to this civilization was used in one of the warlords scenarios and it shouldn't be too hard for you to implent it into FFH- What's the reason you haven't done so?
Kael
Deity
The White Hand isnt a religion because there is no god. If we added it it would be an extremely weak religion that only one civ had access to. That isnt interesting enough to justify its inclusion.
Avahz Darkwood
Emperor
Its more of a cult right now.... HEH maybe bring back the guild mechanic for cults... 
I've said this elsewhere, but I always thought that it'd be cool to implement the White Hand. No idea what it would offer (besides more priests for the Illians), but in my mind it could only be founded by the Illians, adopting it as a state religion would automatically make a civ a vassal of the Illians, and all Illian vassals would have to adopt it.
So I guess it wouldn't function like other religions so much as a way for the Illians to control their allies.
So I guess it wouldn't function like other religions so much as a way for the Illians to control their allies.
I don`t think White Hand could exist in Erebus after Age of Ice and until Auric ascension, because Mulcarn is dead. How dead god can help anybody? But someone mentioned The White Hand as a cult (something like CotD), and I would like to see something like that (especially if CotD return with it 
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Giga-Gigan
Warlord
Perhaps if we had a legitimate third cult. FfH magic numbers are 3, 7, and 21 I believe.
KillerClowns
Emperor
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This flows more into modmodder territory, but it's mentioned the Orcs are fanatical followers of Bhall. And none of the other religions really fit them, except maybe the more barbaric interpretations of the Ashen Veil or Fellowship of Leaves...
Avahz Darkwood
Emperor
I dunno, I have looked at the Ashen Veil to be an Agares and Bhall poly-religion. Considering one would need a heap load of passion to spread a religion of despair and false hope.
A good third cult would be a Luonnotar Cult worshiping the One.
A good third cult would be a Luonnotar Cult worshiping the One.
Avahz Darkwood
Emperor
The White Hand Cult for the Illians
The Dragon Cult for the Kurios
A Luonnatar Cult tolerated by the Grigori
The Dragon Cult for the Kurios
A Luonnatar Cult tolerated by the Grigori
Giga-Gigan
Warlord
Oh, yeah the luonnatar could make for an excellent cult. A sort of anti-religion cult that spreads from Grigori lands. who knows maybe they could be tied into crime rates, cult of dragons could spread more likely to high crime areas, Luonnatar spreading more likely into really low crime rate areas...
