Retired Tread - Conflict Manager's Office

[disorganizer]

RULE-request:
octavian, please rule on whether he finds or does not find something to kill himself and whether his attempt will be successful or if he only hurts himself...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1010653#post1010653

ant ooc @ his torturers:
i need a more detailed explanation of what his cell looks like... is he only locked up or tied? is his face hidden somehow? what is in the cell?

 

[Octavian X]

Some new annoucements:

Upgrades will cost (in shields) one-half the difference of the shield costs of the old and new units.

You must have under your control a Barracks (in-game city), or have permission to use another's facilities.

You are reminded that you must have iron under your control, or be allowed useage of another's iron otherwise, to build units requiring that resource.

The cost of a legion unit will be 4 shields, with 3/3/1 ADM.

The swordsman unit will be made available, costing 3 shields, with 3/2/1 ADM.

 

[disorganizer]

one question: what will disbanding of units give us back in shields?
i for example have archers which i would like to disband. what do they give me back?

 

[Plexus]

I. Jessica
II. Jessica
III. Upgrade 1 warrior to legion, disband 1 spear
IV. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=1012164#post1012164
V. Nationality: Atrouiian, belonging to Atrouiian line

That should put my unit count at
1 Spear
1 Legion
1 Chariot

 

[disorganizer]

NOTICE: Atrouia and Helenatica signed a usage contract. Atrouia Provides Horses to Helenatica in the future, Helenatica provides Iron to Atrouia in the future.

Also, Helenatica committet to give all citizens of fanatica free usage of its iron resource.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CITIZENS OF FOREIGN NATIONALITY!
contracts with nations to provide units will be signed and posted here, like the one with atrouia.
this will not include iron for usage to produce other things than units.
also, all resources which will be made available for helenatica will be made available to all fanatican provinces and citizens.

signed:
Bellona of Helenatica

 

[disorganizer]

i have land approval for
61food
41shields
164gold


current units:
bellona (charisma 14) controlls:
3 spear+1 warrior in gorina
3 spear+1 warrior in noshuret
3 spear+1 warrior in penguinadua

hellena (charisma 14) controlls:
8 archers and 2 spearmen, as mobile assault force

preconditions:
* i have iron under controll in my territory (near gorina)
* i have allowance to use the barracs in noshuret (by civgeneral at the chat)
* with the 19 shield+19food support cost, i have 22 shield left

changes to implement (up to now, i reserve the right to add orders later):
1) upgrade the 3 warriors to legions. cost: 1.5*3=4.5 (=5?) shield
2) buy 3 legions. cost: 4*4=16
so i still have 1 shield left.
3) disband all archers (how many shields does this get me?)
4) for any leftover shield i would like to raise more legions.


TROOP POSITIONS:
Gorina: 3 Spearmen, 1 Legion
Iron near Gorina: 2 Spearmen, 2 Legion
Funkytowne: 2 Spearmen, 1 Legion
Nur Gisnod: 2 Spearmen, 1 Legion
Penguinadua: 2 Spearmen, 1 Legion

any leftover legions are placed on the iron tile near gorina.

Controll is Split between bellona and hellena (or their successors) as follows:
Funkytowne, Gorina + mobile-troops: Bellona
Nur Gisnod+Penguinadua: Hellena

Support cost for the future turnchats should be:
17shield+17food

please verify or correct my numbers and notify me of the actual values before the next TC

 

[Civanator]

So, I have 4 warriors, It would cost me 4 shields to upgrade? or 2? or more?

I have 4 warriors, and If i upgrade to swordsmen, it would cost:
1/2 for each warrior, which gets rounded down to 0

1 1/2 for swordsman, which gets rounded down to 1 shield. This equals 4 shields to upgrade?

Also: Oct, if you give me the math for conflict manager I can help you out.

 

[disorganizer]

civanator: you also need iron, which you do not have at the moment >-)

to the math:
a warrior costs ingame 10, a swordman 30
so the rpg prices would be:
warrior: 1 shield
swordman: 3 shield (iron needed)
legion: 4 shield (iron needed)

so the upgrade prices are:
warrior->swordman: 1 shield
warrior->legion: 1.5 shield

i suppose the value for the legion is rounded up, not down.
so if i for example upgrade 3 warriors, this would cost me 3*1.5=4.5 rounded up=5 shield

the only question open will be how many shield a disbanded unit brings into my pocket.

 

[Civanator]

Well, since I agreed to the deal proposed in the Despot of Fanatica thread, I would like to:

Upgrade 3 warriors to Legions

I have an income of 3/5/0 f/s/g

That would equal 4 or 5 shields

 

[Bootstoots]

Plainia has annexed new territory. It is now running 2.3.2. The archer unit was on half strength for two t/c's and has been disbanded. My mercenary warriors are also being disbanded. I have ratified the treaty, and am currently receiving iron. I will set my remaining spearman unit on half-strength for one t/c. I will now raise a swordsman unit and will raise a mercenary archer unit with the two gold. Please confirm this.

 

[disorganizer]

boot: we dont have currency and as such cant use gold. no chance for mercenary units. the commerce gained by tiles is at the moment going to the void.

 

[Bootstoots]

Okay, instead of raising a mercenary archer, I will convert 2 gold into 1 shield and raise an additional warrior. Therefore, my current army will be:
1 spearman (half-strength)
1 swordsman
1 warrior

 

[disorganizer]

@bootstoots: as posted by octavian before and approoved by chieftess as rpg manager, the conversion of gold to shield or food is not possible until currency.

 

[disorganizer]

ah, also i saw you have a swordman. this is impossible as you dont have iron...
( i posted at the despot thread to verify that, but afaik only depaololand and atrousia have a contract with fanatica. and that contract excludes further delivery to others).

the only nations ready to build swordmen and legions are atm atrousia, depaolo and fanatica. and only fanatica and atrousia have horses.

also for upgrading units, you need access to a barracs. the only barracs is in noshuret, to which only atrousia and fanatica have access.

 

[Bootstoots]

Dis, I would be able to have access to iron and a barracks, because Plainia (that's my nation and is member of the ONSS) has ratified your treaty. Also, the rules explicitly state that gold MUST be converted to food or shields before currency, so Oct will have no choice but to convert it. Here is the text of the rule (the second half of Land Rule 7):

Gold can be converted to food or shields with one gold making 1/2 of either. If currency hasn’t been discovered yet all gold produced must be taken as shields or food.

 

[Civanator]

Bootstoots, Oct said no gold until currency, and CT said it was ok. So there is no gold for, It goes to "Ze Void", even though I don't like it either. We gotta live with it.

 

[Chieftess]

I said no gold until currency, HOWEVER, all gold must be converted to food or shields.

I would say 1 gold = 1/2 food, or 1/2 shield.

 

[Bootstoots]

Therefore, 2 gold produced makes one shield, which I built an additional warrior with.

 

[Octavian X]

Any everything has been updated in my personal files. . If you'd like to see my records, ask me.

 

[Civanator]

YAAY!, CT made the ruling!