Returning Wonders-Elimination Thread

[LethalLeigh]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 15
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 25 (24+1) wonders that use mountain hexes would be great.
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 15
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15 (18-3) doesn't look impressive. (some of these wonders I don't know so I have had to look them up and the pics of this one are OK but not great.)
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 20
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Xandinho]

Angkor Wat 24 + 1 = 25 The number one wonder when one thinks of Southeast Asia. It's simply an awesome place.
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 15
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 15 - 3 = 12 It's a wonder I'd like to see in the game, but behind in the list of priorities of the other names on the list.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 20
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 15+1=16 - We must have it. It would look gorgeous on map. And it would look even better when Firaxis will finally rename it to St. Basil's Cathedral.
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 25-3=22 - Voting is harder. I would like to see all of these things, but Machu Picchu is the least wanted in my list.
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 20
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 16
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24 (23 + 1) -- "Morning in Paris, the city awakes to the bells of Notre Dame..."
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17 (20 - 3) -- Given the choice between two Greek temples, I'll take the one that's still standing...
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 18 (17 + 1) Anyone can build a strong fortress, given enough rocks and determination, but to make one also graceful and beautiful - that's a Wonder.
Kremlin 16
Louvre 17 (20 - 3) - Actually, I want to keep all the remaining Wonders and then some, so this negative voting is getting very difficult. But... If we are looking for a place to stash Great Works, there are lots of iconic museums/galleries: the New York Met, the British Museum, Hermitage, Smithsonian, etc. I suggest the Louvre is famous largely because it's in one of the most-visited cities in the world (and 'Louvre of Irkutsk' would be much less famous, regardless of what it housed) AND it has one of the most iconic pieces of art in the world, Da Vinci's painting, which in the game it has a vanishingly small chance of housing.
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Guandao]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné (15+1)=16 I think a West African wonder is needed in Civ6. I betting Mali will be one of the upcoming DLCs. Either this or Sankore would be satisfactorily for me. Can't expect people in the Sahara not to build structures without using mud.
Himeji Castle 18
Kremlin 16 Still surprised to see the Kremlin has its defenders, who mainly desired it renamed to St. Basil's Cathedral, the actual Kremlin is nothing special
Louvre (17-3)=14 It's notable as a Museum because of its collection, but also for its glass pyramid (designed by IM Pei). That was added much later that the building though, so it would be weird to show the pyramid being built in the same video as the rest of the structure. Plus Hermitage has basically replaced it.
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

 

[Manifold]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 18
Kremlin 16 (Kremlin means the whole structure including the St. Basil's Cathedral. Like the Apostolic Palace is not only an apartment block.)
Louvre 14
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18 (17+1) Her legs are so long and beautiful
University of Sankoré 15 (18-3) has not long and beautiful legs
Versailles 24

 

[Morningcalm]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 (Too iconic not to make it)
Kremlin 16
Louvre 14
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12 - 3 = 9 (Meh. Why does this always give a science bonus? It was a pretty porcelain tower and nothing more. If we want pagodas, pick the nine-storey Hwangnyongsa Pagoda which at least had religious significance).
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[LethalLeigh]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 19
Kremlin 16
Louvre 11 (14-3) I think we have enough Great works of Art museum Wonders.
Machu Picchu 23 (22+1) Wonders that use mountain hexes would be great.
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 9
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Morgawr]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24 (23+1) I recently visited it, it's amazing and a UNESCO heritage wonder so definitely should come back
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 19
Kremlin 16
Louvre 8 (11-3) Cultural wonders are my least favorite; have too many already
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 9
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[civviefan]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 19
Kremlin 16
Louvre 8-3=5 Agree with all above, choice is hard though!
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 9
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18+1=19 An original wonder (one of the 7), I like the idea of having a wonder that no longer exists!
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Xandinho]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 19 + 1 = 20 It's beautiful, visually unique, and an incredible Japanese construction. It's definitely something we can call wonder.
Kremlin 16
Louvre 5
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 9 - 3 = 6 It's an interesting build, but I think it's not a higher priority than the other names on the list.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 18
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 16
Louvre 5
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 21 (20 + 1) -- It's not a real castle, but it's iconic and it would look lovely on the map.
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 15 (18 - 3) -- It's still just a big statue, and I'm still a horrible American apparently.
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Siptah]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17 (16+1) I just love this kind of architecture.
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 16
Louvre 5
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 21
Notre-Dame 24
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 23 (26-3) With the Great People mechanic, this could be done by Phidias.
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 16 - St Basil's Cathedral and the Kremlin are completely separate things, having been built separately and used for separate purposes throughout their respective existences. Calling them part of the same thing is like assuming that the Lincoln Memorial and the Congressional Office Building in Washington DC are par of the same structure - only if you think the entire center of the city is a 'structure'. We only lump them together here because Firaxis cannot seem to tell them apart.
Louvre 5
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 21
Notre-Dame 25 (24 + 1) Yes, there are bigger Gothic cathedrals, but some buildings are instantly recognizable no matter how many they are similar to: Eiffel's Tower, Neuschwanstein, Taj Mahal, Parthenon, Machu Piccu - and Notre Dame.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 23 (26 - 3) OF COURSE I want the Statue and all the other Ancient and Classical Wonders I can get. But if you held my feet to the fire and forced me to choose, I'd have to prefer the Parthenon to this: I've walked the Parthenon, and even in its current ruined state it is simply awe-inspiring.
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Kremlin 16 Still surprised to see the Kremlin has its defenders, who mainly desired it renamed to St. Basil's Cathedral, the actual Kremlin is nothing special

Well, I am actually voting for St. Basil's Cathedral. Look at Civ IV completing animation. What is it? St. Basil's Cathedral called Kremlin and built as symbol of Communism. Look at Civ V. What is it? Icon shows us St. Basil's Cathedral, the painting shows us Kremlin, on map it's the Cathedral and it's again symbol of Order/Communism. Something is wrong. At least the Communism thing is, since both Kremlin and the Cathedral were build in Medieval/Renaissance times.

And Boris Gudenuf skipped Siptah's post, so I corrected the points.

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 16+1=17 - Read my response to Guandao.
Louvre 5-3=2 - This is actually another museum wonder. The other things are more interresting. Boris Gudenuf said it all in post #205.
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 21
Notre-Dame 25
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 20
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

 

[Guandao]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 2
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 21
Notre-Dame 25
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret (15+1)=16 It might not look that impressive today, but few examples of a spiral minaret survive to this day. There's little Islamic wonders represented in Civ6 yet, and I wouldn't count Hagia Sophia as one.
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 20
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis (19-3)=16 At the end of the day, it's just a very large Greek style temple. I don't expect Firaxis to include a statue of the many-breasted Artemis. How do we even know how it looked like when all that's left is fallen column drums?
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

To Kremlin supporters, how come Apostolic Palace was eliminated when it has the same situation as Kremlin/St. Basil's Cathedral? Visually, in Civ4, it's represented by St. Peter's Cathedral. I would put St. Basil's Cathedral in another poll for wonders never represented in Civ yet.

 

[Manifold]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 2
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 18 (21-3) Cinderella Castle is more important
Notre-Dame 25
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 20
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17 (16+1) the last wonder here around
University of Sankoré 15
Versailles 24

To Kremlin supporters, how come Apostolic Palace was eliminated when it has the same situation as Kremlin/St. Basil's Cathedral? Visually, in Civ4, it's represented by St. Peter's Cathedral. I would put St. Basil's Cathedral in another poll for wonders never represented in Civ yet.

Spoiler :

The Red Square with the church is just in front of the Kremlin! And who cares how the ww looked in Civ4!

 

[Morningcalm]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 2
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 18
Notre-Dame 25
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 6 - 3 = 3 (Dull. There are better pagodas)
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 15
Statue of Zeus 20
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17
University of Sankoré 15 + 1 = 16 (A major hub of Islamic learning, and definitely a must if Mansa Musa is added to the game)
Versailles 24

 

[WillowBrook]

Angkor Wat 25
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre GONE (2-3) another museum is lower priority
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 18
Notre-Dame 25
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 3
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 16 (15+1) iconic
Statue of Zeus 20
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 17
University of Sankoré 16
Versailles 24