Revolution IOT

[Tee Kay]

You attacked the 6 territories and won all six so they're marked in your color on the map....aren't they?

Here's the map in the update. Notice the absence of change of the borders in the Middle East

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=281756&d=1296950053

 

[Sonereal]

Here's the map in the update. Notice the absence of change of the borders in the Middle East

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=281756&d=1296950053

Edit: Fffff-

I remember now. Hang on.

 

[Mathalamus]

If your sole reason for declaring war on them was to protect them, why didn't you just offer them a government in exile instead (in the event they get conquered).

the game does not support this action and i seriously doubt dommy wants to be a vassal of me. and im relucent to give him any provinces which weaken Spain.

nevertheless we offer the Israeli state to exist as a Government in Exile. provinces that they will control will be allocated should you accept.

As the Great Qaghan was so kind to mentionm the Holy Land will not be 'destroyed'. The Jews will retain most of their so-called 'Promised Land'.

Emperor Juan Carlos thanks the Khitan state for sparing the Jews. mostly. we nevertheless wanted to protect them. the damn league got in the way.

 

[Sonereal]

Fixed. I apologize. It's my fault for dealing with an ex, doing number crunching, and looking at the map at the same time. I didn't even see it at first when I looked at the map.

 

[Turquoiside]

American League
If you want to help 'em out, we suggest you declare war on Khitan instead of kicking a dog when it's down.

What are they gonna do, invade us? Attack the neutral Chinese (OOC: Who were released from my control last turn)?*

*These views to not necessarily represent the diplomatic intentions of The Great Qaghanate of White and High.

 

[Mathalamus]

What are they gonna do, invade us? Attack the neutral Chinese (OOC: Who were released from my control last turn)?*

*These views to not necessarily represent the diplomatic intentions of The Great Qaghanate of White and High.

we are not attacking china. you will murder Spain, and dance in the middle of the Madrid ruins.

 

[Sonereal]

the game does not support this action and i seriously doubt dommy wants to be a vassal of me. and im relucent to give him any provinces which weaken Spain.

Hohoho. A government-in-exile would be simple to implement. Give them a "base of operations" in your territory (it would still be marked your territory) and the player can start withdrawing armies. Would be interesting, to say the least.

Emperor Juan Carlos thanks the Khitan state for sparing the Jews. mostly. we nevertheless wanted to protect them. the damn league got in the way.

American League

We feel it would be in the better international interest if Khitan, Egypt, and the Soviet Union handle the situation. No reason to add an unwanted party given that the Jews in the region have no love for the Spaniards. Impressive show Khitan. That's what 19,200,000 men can do to an army a quarter, no, an 1/8th the size can do.

 

[Tee Kay]

The Soviet Union is purchasing both sides of Istanbul from the Spanish Empire for 20 LPs.

 

[Mathalamus]

both sides of Constantinople was sold the the Great and Glorious Soviet Union for 20 LPs.

and sonereal: really now? good.

 

[Turquoiside]

American League

Impressive show Khitan. That's what 19,200,000 men can do to an army a quarter, no, an 1/8th the size can do.

For capitalist, you're doing a very poor job of taking advantage of this situation. The DB Corp should be appalled to be considered capitalist as long as you claim to use that system. If you feel so strongly about this, you should declare war on us, and by extension the USSR and DB Corp.*

*Once again, these views are not endorsed, supported, or approved, by the Great Qaghanate of White and High. Any threats or intimidations are unofficial and thus should not be viewed as threats from the Heavenly Qaghante.

 

[Sonereal]

So....the "infinte army" system is highlighting a little flaw which I didn't think of 7 updates ago when I started doing the casualty rating.

See, when I calculate casualties, all I do is take the # of armies that nation lost, multiply it by 80,000 (minimum size of an army according to Wikipedia and I was too lazy to bother with anything else) and put that number as the upper limit in the RNG. The lower limit is 1 so yes, it's fully possible for one man to sacrifice himself and kill 405,905 men. Good luck on writing that story! But I guess that doesn't apply to actual army sizes.

Because according to the numbers I'm using, Khitan has an army of with 23,120,000 men.

For capitalist, you're doing a very poor job of taking advantage of this situation. The DB Corp should be appalled to be considered capitalist as long as you claim to use that system. If you feel so strongly about this, you should declare war on us, and by extension the USSR and DB Corp.*

Why would we, or when have we indicated, that we wanted to exploit the situation? Khitan is invading and it would be for the best that goes unimpeded to make the transition as quick and painless as possible.

 

[Mathalamus]

Sonereal, i really think this infinite army thing should be fixed. soon everyone would have more soldiers than people. a limit of some sort? make armies and navies more expensive? destroy the armies somehow to force a reset?

 

[Double A]

Make armies battalions.

 

[Turquoiside]

OOC: I still don't see why it's a problem, except for RP purposes. It's much better to have everything unlimited, because capping armies means you have to have cap on everything.

 

[Tee Kay]

Indeed. Besides, if there's a cap, the cap will have to be different for each nation, since we don't all have the same population or number of provinces.

 

[Mathalamus]

screw it, call it units. then 10 units would make a battalion, and 10 of that would be an army. issue solved.

 

[Mathalamus]

Spain has received its 50 armies and 12 navies it had earlier lent to Egypt, and an Alliance was signed between the Two nations.

 

[Sonereal]

Sonereal, i really think this infinite army thing should be fixed. soon everyone would have more soldiers than people. a limit of some sort? make armies and navies more expensive? destroy the armies somehow to force a reset?

I don't want to destroy the armies. Especially since Khitan invested over 300 LPs since the beginning of the game into them. As for making them more expensive....meh? It would increase the power of atomic bombs I suppose. I don't know.

Make armies battalions.

Way too small.

Indeed. Besides, if there's a cap, the cap will have to be different for each nation, since we don't all have the same population or number of provinces.

True. I don't want to do a cap anyway. I guess it's fine for now. Maybe it's a problem of atomic bombs being relatively expensive *shrugs*.

 

[Double A]

Make armies 20,000 men?

 

[Sonereal]

Make armies 20,000 men?

That's a Corp. Not an Army. The only nation ever to pass off Corps as Armies were the Soviets between the beginning of the German invasion and before pushing back west.