RFC Europe playtesting feedback thread

I was thinking a late game road upgrade with civil engineering would be useful. Metalled roads refers to carefully engineered gravel roadways compacted so the angular stones lock together into a smoother more permanent roadway. In 1764 Frenchman Pierre-Marie-Jerome Tresaguet invented a three layer method to road building of a heavy stone foundation under smaller rounded stones under broken gravel. In the early 1820's Scotsman John McAdam make roads like this cheaper by removing the need for the flat stone foundation.

It could use the modern era road graphics, and of course it wouldn't be as fast as any railroad. Plus I just don't like civil engineering having nothing but Virginia.
 
steampunk1880 said:
I was thinking a late game road upgrade with civil engineering would be useful. Metalled roads refers to carefully engineered gravel roadways compacted so the angular stones lock together into a smoother more permanent roadway. In 1764 Frenchman Pierre-Marie-Jerome Tresaguet invented a three layer method to road building of a heavy stone foundation under smaller rounded stones under broken gravel. In the early 1820's Scotsman John McAdam make roads like this cheaper by removing the need for the flat stone foundation.

It could use the modern era road graphics, and of course it wouldn't be as fast as any railroad. Plus I just don't like civil engineering having nothing but Virginia.
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With the new colonies Civil Engineering will enable 2 colonies AFAIK. BUt you're right. It should have another benefit. Instead of better roads, I'd be in favour of more modern fortifications esp. against field artillery.:)
 
jessiecat said:
With the new colonies Civil Engineering will enable 2 colonies AFAIK. BUt you're right. It should have another benefit. Instead of better roads, I'd be in favour of more modern fortifications esp. against field artillery.:)
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We can give generic +1 road movement for regular roads. I don't think any road of the time was fast enough to make as rail road.
 
Bonci said:
lol I just saw two workers and a carrack with the formation promotion...I think there is something wrong with the swedish UP XD
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It takes extra work to make the promotion only for specific set of units. It has no effect on workers and ships anyway.
 
Just finished Venice (or should I say Aquileia, since I didn't found Venice which overlaps too much with Florence and Fiume, and it's just too far from the wine and iron 3N of it) in 1147 in emperor. It's way too easy.

1. All the criteria are "by"
2. Florence, Milan, Ragusa and Napoli are not defended by indys well enough
3. I thought that I had to control 8 different luxury items, when it's only 8 luxury items which can be the same. I had fur, 5 or 6 wines, dye from Rhodes, silk from Byzantium, gold from somebody else. I was all set to go hunt for some elephants and silver and even some sugar or coffee in the tropical islands when the 3rd criteria registered together with the 1st one. I would suggest making a list of what luxury items are, and making the requirement of 8 SEPARATE items as the 3rd goal. (Are elephants considered luxury since you can't build war elephants now?)
4. Rhodes needs to be majorly buffed up. Since it was occupied by the Knights Hospitaller, maybe give them one or 2 so that it won't be so easy to conquer.
5. The 2 Catholic missionaries are useless, because if you don't spread it, Rome is so near that you'll inevitably get it. I would eliminate them and give Venice an extra archer instead.
 
- Venice starting location needs improvement
- I will see about the resources, we can make it either 8 different ones or bump up the number
- Ivory is a lux resource
- The missionaries were in there to ensure Venice was Catholic from the start before he had semi-adequate Rome.
 
A question to our playtesters about "ideal" city locations:
- Is it better to have Edinburgh and Inverness 4 north of that city, or just one city NNE of Edinburgh, that catches all important resources (except for Iron) in the area and is on a river too?
- Is it better to found Antwerp and Groningen, or just Amsterdam, or Amsterdam and Groningen? In case that you are the French / Burgundians / Germans or when the Dutch have the luck to decide where to settle.
- Is it better to raze Prague and rebuild the city 1 NE, or just leave the city where it is?
- Is it better to raze Liubice and rebuild the city 1 W, or just leave the city where it is? Side note on that: as the Norse I'd indisputably go for option 1, since I never build Copenhagen, but rather a city on the southwestern tip of Sweden and a city on the forrest north of the copper. I have to be lucky then, since that possibility is not guaranteed.
- As Burgundy, is it better to capture Milan or raze it and rebuild it anywhere on a river? 1 (S)SW could be a nice candidate, it doesn't flip to Genoa and even better, their units flip to Pisa.
- Is it better to settle Burdundy on it's starting location, 1 S or even 1 SSW? The latter one requires to skip Lyon but it's resources are in Besancon's BFC anyway.
- In general, is it better to get more resources, or get acces to a river and ideally sea access? I've been struggling with these questions for some time now and I'd like to hear your opinions about it.
 
General Toad said:
What's the new music for the Hungarians in Alpha 3? And on that note, the new menu music? Both sound amazing!
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The Hungarian music is from a Magyar mod and some Hungarian friends helped us include it (along with the leaderhead for Istvan and Magyar speech for the units).

The opening menu music is Bulgarian that I picked. Rhye's song is great, but I wanted to give the mod more of a medieval feel, as well as to distinguish it from Rhye's work. Great as Rhye's work is, I wanted people to know they are playing something different from the start.

I am glad you like it, you are the only one to comment on it so far.
 
3Miro said:
The Hungarian music is from a Magyar mod and some Hungarian friends helped us include it (along with the leaderhead for Istvan and Magyar speech for the units).

The opening menu music is Bulgarian that I picked. Rhye's song is great, but I wanted to give the mod more of a medieval feel, as well as to distinguish it from Rhye's work. Great as Rhye's work is, I wanted people to know they are playing something different from the start.

I am glad you like it, you are the only one to comment on it so far.
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Interesting choice of music. Is it different for every civ? I've never commented as I've always kept the sound switched off in any version of civ I ever played. I guess I'll have to listen to all the sounds now to find out what they're like.
 
jessiecat said:
Interesting choice of music. Is it different for every civ? I've never commented as I always keep the sound switched off in any version of civ I ever played. I guess I'll have to listen to all the sounds now to find out what they're like.
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There are some common theme songs for most leaders (i.e. war drums upon declaration of war), however, some leaders have their own theme song. There are Native American, Egyptian, Middle Eastern, Far Eastern and so on theme. Istvan has a Magyar theme (quite cool actually).
 
What is the historic territory of France? Is it just mainland France? Does Corsice count? What about Algier and Tunis? I think, to play with France is so easy, that it should be the french condition to conquere these, too.
I just conquered the Burgundy on Monarch in the 8th Century. The Rest of the game is a fast-selling item
 
Once you collapse Burgundy, the rest is easy, since you 1) quickly capture indies 2) reclaim (or refuse spawn) of Caen and 3) make sure Genova doesnt build Nice
 
rob-art1985 said:
but what is the "historical territory"?

btw: is RFCE Multiplayer-compatible?
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There is a folder in RFCEurope that is called Reference. Some of those territories and such are shown there. The territory is basically just that of mainland France, no islands.

RFCE does not support multiplayer and probably never will. There are way too many balancing issues to be worth coding.
 
3Miro said:
There is a folder in RFCEurope that is called Reference. Some of those territories and such are shown there. The territory is basically just that of mainland France, no islands.

RFCE does not support multiplayer and probably never will. There are way too many balancing issues to be worth coding.
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The only problem is that they are old. Like the territory UHV of the Genoans, some maps doesn't show the new UHVs.
 
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