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RFC: Rise of the Soviet Union
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Vladivostok's kinda useless as a port, huh?
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nonono, I mean all the Japan around it.
Alexandertheg8
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yeah vladivostok is pretty useless as a port, but i was lucky i could even build it this game, normaly sapporo is built way earlier and it already reaches its radius of 3, and i can't build it without destroying it. At the point i'm playing it is in danger of being flipped to japan, it already revolted once, to me this makes no historical sense so i am thinking about setting sapporo's culture back to 10 so i won't loose it because of culture.
After looking at a map of Russia, i decided to add a whole load more of rivers in siberia, and to put more grassland tiles in the amur and vilyuy valley's, since those regions have a higher density of cities than the surronding area in siberia. Anyway, i forgot i wasn't the soviet union yet, and jumped at the chance to get a permanent alliance with china, and so i am going to reload wiht an autosave before that. To make it clear i will get a permanent alliance with china when both parties are using the civic state property, and i can't give communism as a gift to china.
Since china is going to be my ally, i think they should settle all of the PRC so i am going to a river in the desert region in the west (since there is actualy a river there) and change alot of the tiles to plains, and add some more sheep in Tibet, to encourage them to settle there. As well i think i should remove the Marsh tiles in the Amur, because alot of russia's main far east cities are actualy on the marshes.
After looking at a map of Russia, i decided to add a whole load more of rivers in siberia, and to put more grassland tiles in the amur and vilyuy valley's, since those regions have a higher density of cities than the surronding area in siberia. Anyway, i forgot i wasn't the soviet union yet, and jumped at the chance to get a permanent alliance with china, and so i am going to reload wiht an autosave before that. To make it clear i will get a permanent alliance with china when both parties are using the civic state property, and i can't give communism as a gift to china.
Since china is going to be my ally, i think they should settle all of the PRC so i am going to a river in the desert region in the west (since there is actualy a river there) and change alot of the tiles to plains, and add some more sheep in Tibet, to encourage them to settle there. As well i think i should remove the Marsh tiles in the Amur, because alot of russia's main far east cities are actualy on the marshes.
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Map was edited about half way through this update, just to let you know. I find that siberia is great to have as a communist russia because you don't get penalties from distance to palace, there is lots of space for watermills, and it is in your stability area, so you might aswell have the good spots, but if your like me, and you try to simulate russia, you have to have ALL of it, none for Mongolia and Japan, and China is usually going to hate those two so fighting alongside them is a good way to get a longterm friend. Anyway, from the death fo Catherine to the death of Nicholas
“After Catherine’s death her son, Paul, took over. He was already of 75 year old man and could not rule effectively, but he resented his mother for making claims that he was an illegitimate son, and whishing to see that no future successor would be blocked from taking the throne of their father by their ambitious mother, he decreed that the son of the Tsar would always be the heir. In his short reign he managed to spite his mother by completely abolished the funding for the arts. Because the Russian people were still happy that the long war that lasted the hole reign of Catherine was over, they did not begin plotting, yet, but now only luxury resources important from china, and mined from Siberia kept the rich happy, and the threat of force kept the serfs in line.”
“Paul’s reign lasted no more than 6 years, in 1781 his first born son Alexander took the throne at the age of 24.
He was Catherine’s intended successor, and so he continued her plans to settle Russians in west Asia, and to colonize further east in Siberia. 1781 was also the year of the dissolution of the Holy roman empire, in its life it was a disorganized group of German states, eventually the Prussia kingdom gained control of the empire and dissolved it, the had a parliament and so the Germans, neighboring Russia, had a form of elected government, while Russia remained a Tsardom, Nicholas tried to reform the government, but the nobles stopped him. As Marx wrote, democracy is the road to socialism, if the nobles had not stopped him to revolution could have been a peaceful transition, but they didn’t and so our comrades had to fight for socialism, and so the descendants of those very nobles were killed in the October revolution.”
“At this time the world’s economic system was mercantilism, the Tsardom’s economy was disorganized and the British were already capitalist. Mercantilism is the philosophy that there is a limited amount of wealth in the world, and so each nation should try to control as much of it as possible by not trading it to others, they believed that silly metal coins were wealth, while in the soviet union, every hard working individual is the wealth, and together we help the revolution everyday.”
“In 1787 Alexander began to settle the Lena river, rich with mineral resources, the port of Vladivostok was surrounded by the Japanese and he was looking for a port with easy access to the open ocean. By 1799 he settled Ashgabat in the Turkmen S.S.R. thereby supporting his claim to west Asia.”
“In 1802 Japan demanded that Alexander return the Amur valley to them, they were backed by India, Arabia and Germany in their claim. Alexander refused, and Japan declared war, Arabia and India proved that their threats were empty and did not declare war; Alexander immediately went on a diplomatic voyage to Germany to secure their support in the war, he called upon the defensive pact the Holy roman empire signed, the Germans must have forgotten about this when they supported the Japanese claim, but since they never formally ended it, it still applied, and so the Germans joined the Russian side of the war. China had recently signed peace with Japan, but they also had to defend Russia, and they did so willingly, unlike Germany, and so the Japanese found themselves alone, since the defensive pact they had with Arabia ended. In the same year he managed to eliminate piracy in the Black sea.”
(AKA I finally killed the galley with the archer on it)
“Alexander died unexpectedly in 1805, his brother Nicholas took over at the age of 31, Nicholas was more enthusiastic about the war with Japan than Alexander was, he saw it as a way to free the port of Vladivostok, he began to march troops down to Japanese Manchuria, meanwhile he planned to Stiffen his claim of the amur valley by building a port at its mouth.”
After looking at a map of Russia, I made some major overhauls to Siberia, I added a lot more rivers, a lot of rivers, I am not kidding, lots of rivers! I moved the uranium over, and put changed the tundra tiles in the Amur and Vilyuy valleys to grass land, because both regions have a high population in comparison to the surrounding area.
Here is an example:
I told you, a lot of rivers.
“In 1814 Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, despite Nicholas’s censorship, the Russian people heard about this idea of world wide revolution.”
“In 1817 Fushun was burned by the Chinese in retaliation for when Japan burned Shenyang so many years before. Now that the Japanese had been cleared off the mainland, all that Nicholas had to worry about was a sea invasion, but he did not take any measures to defend against this, as he did not build any warships in Vladivostok.”
“In 1835 Nicholas abolished the ancient vassalage system, and instead relied on nationalism, the Russian people would be conscripted into his armies. This eventually led to the revolution.”
Okay since China is going to be my friend, I will want them to have all the territory of the PRC, so I gave them some incentive.
So do you think china will settle there or will India some how manage to fly across the mountains and settle there instead?
“In 1852, Nicholas organized the new nationalist country to be operated from the Kremlin, a sit which will be come very important for the Soviet Union. In 1854, at the age of 80, he settled the Kamchatka Peninsula, a few months later he died, but his mission was complete, Russia ranged from the Black sea to the Pacific Ocean proper, and their was no way for the Japanese to deny the Motherland access to open ocean. His death marked the end to the largest Russia colonization projects, and from then on the Tsars simply tried to tighten their grip on the people, they were stubborn and refused to industrialize, something that the Soviet Union would have to do in the future.”
Think about this for a moment. Petropavlosk is the ONLY Russia city that has guaranteed access to the ocean. In Europe any city on the Baltic is blocked by German culture from getting to the north sea, the black sea requires Constantinople, and even then the Mediterranean will require Open borders to get through. The north Russian coast can be blocked by Hammerfest (always loved that city name) and if Japan settles Petropavlosk, then all the ports can’t enter the pacific. (Yes I know that you could build a canal city 5 north of Petro, but it wouldn’t have any resources or food beyond sea tiles. So Petropavlosk is very important to Russia in RFC as having access to the ocean means that with Astronomy, you can get trade routes with anyone else that has access to the ocean. Okay, now the only cities I will build are Murmansk in 1915, Vorkuta during the reign of Stalin, and maybe Constantinople if Hadrianopolis is razed. All the rest of the Siberian cities are useless stability and economy killers, unless I give them a deer or 2 and use all those rivers I added for communist watermills, and then they might be worth it.
The next update will probably be uneventful; I will just be spreading Christianity to all my cities, and beelining to Fascisms and trying to trade for democracy, so that I could have the appropriate civics for the revolution. The only interesting thing that I could write about would be the creation of the Trans-Siberian railroad.
“After Catherine’s death her son, Paul, took over. He was already of 75 year old man and could not rule effectively, but he resented his mother for making claims that he was an illegitimate son, and whishing to see that no future successor would be blocked from taking the throne of their father by their ambitious mother, he decreed that the son of the Tsar would always be the heir. In his short reign he managed to spite his mother by completely abolished the funding for the arts. Because the Russian people were still happy that the long war that lasted the hole reign of Catherine was over, they did not begin plotting, yet, but now only luxury resources important from china, and mined from Siberia kept the rich happy, and the threat of force kept the serfs in line.”
“Paul’s reign lasted no more than 6 years, in 1781 his first born son Alexander took the throne at the age of 24.
He was Catherine’s intended successor, and so he continued her plans to settle Russians in west Asia, and to colonize further east in Siberia. 1781 was also the year of the dissolution of the Holy roman empire, in its life it was a disorganized group of German states, eventually the Prussia kingdom gained control of the empire and dissolved it, the had a parliament and so the Germans, neighboring Russia, had a form of elected government, while Russia remained a Tsardom, Nicholas tried to reform the government, but the nobles stopped him. As Marx wrote, democracy is the road to socialism, if the nobles had not stopped him to revolution could have been a peaceful transition, but they didn’t and so our comrades had to fight for socialism, and so the descendants of those very nobles were killed in the October revolution.”
“At this time the world’s economic system was mercantilism, the Tsardom’s economy was disorganized and the British were already capitalist. Mercantilism is the philosophy that there is a limited amount of wealth in the world, and so each nation should try to control as much of it as possible by not trading it to others, they believed that silly metal coins were wealth, while in the soviet union, every hard working individual is the wealth, and together we help the revolution everyday.”
“In 1787 Alexander began to settle the Lena river, rich with mineral resources, the port of Vladivostok was surrounded by the Japanese and he was looking for a port with easy access to the open ocean. By 1799 he settled Ashgabat in the Turkmen S.S.R. thereby supporting his claim to west Asia.”
“In 1802 Japan demanded that Alexander return the Amur valley to them, they were backed by India, Arabia and Germany in their claim. Alexander refused, and Japan declared war, Arabia and India proved that their threats were empty and did not declare war; Alexander immediately went on a diplomatic voyage to Germany to secure their support in the war, he called upon the defensive pact the Holy roman empire signed, the Germans must have forgotten about this when they supported the Japanese claim, but since they never formally ended it, it still applied, and so the Germans joined the Russian side of the war. China had recently signed peace with Japan, but they also had to defend Russia, and they did so willingly, unlike Germany, and so the Japanese found themselves alone, since the defensive pact they had with Arabia ended. In the same year he managed to eliminate piracy in the Black sea.”
(AKA I finally killed the galley with the archer on it)
“Alexander died unexpectedly in 1805, his brother Nicholas took over at the age of 31, Nicholas was more enthusiastic about the war with Japan than Alexander was, he saw it as a way to free the port of Vladivostok, he began to march troops down to Japanese Manchuria, meanwhile he planned to Stiffen his claim of the amur valley by building a port at its mouth.”
After looking at a map of Russia, I made some major overhauls to Siberia, I added a lot more rivers, a lot of rivers, I am not kidding, lots of rivers! I moved the uranium over, and put changed the tundra tiles in the Amur and Vilyuy valleys to grass land, because both regions have a high population in comparison to the surrounding area.
Here is an example:
I told you, a lot of rivers.
“In 1814 Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, despite Nicholas’s censorship, the Russian people heard about this idea of world wide revolution.”
“In 1817 Fushun was burned by the Chinese in retaliation for when Japan burned Shenyang so many years before. Now that the Japanese had been cleared off the mainland, all that Nicholas had to worry about was a sea invasion, but he did not take any measures to defend against this, as he did not build any warships in Vladivostok.”
“In 1835 Nicholas abolished the ancient vassalage system, and instead relied on nationalism, the Russian people would be conscripted into his armies. This eventually led to the revolution.”
Okay since China is going to be my friend, I will want them to have all the territory of the PRC, so I gave them some incentive.
So do you think china will settle there or will India some how manage to fly across the mountains and settle there instead?
“In 1852, Nicholas organized the new nationalist country to be operated from the Kremlin, a sit which will be come very important for the Soviet Union. In 1854, at the age of 80, he settled the Kamchatka Peninsula, a few months later he died, but his mission was complete, Russia ranged from the Black sea to the Pacific Ocean proper, and their was no way for the Japanese to deny the Motherland access to open ocean. His death marked the end to the largest Russia colonization projects, and from then on the Tsars simply tried to tighten their grip on the people, they were stubborn and refused to industrialize, something that the Soviet Union would have to do in the future.”
Think about this for a moment. Petropavlosk is the ONLY Russia city that has guaranteed access to the ocean. In Europe any city on the Baltic is blocked by German culture from getting to the north sea, the black sea requires Constantinople, and even then the Mediterranean will require Open borders to get through. The north Russian coast can be blocked by Hammerfest (always loved that city name) and if Japan settles Petropavlosk, then all the ports can’t enter the pacific. (Yes I know that you could build a canal city 5 north of Petro, but it wouldn’t have any resources or food beyond sea tiles. So Petropavlosk is very important to Russia in RFC as having access to the ocean means that with Astronomy, you can get trade routes with anyone else that has access to the ocean. Okay, now the only cities I will build are Murmansk in 1915, Vorkuta during the reign of Stalin, and maybe Constantinople if Hadrianopolis is razed. All the rest of the Siberian cities are useless stability and economy killers, unless I give them a deer or 2 and use all those rivers I added for communist watermills, and then they might be worth it.
The next update will probably be uneventful; I will just be spreading Christianity to all my cities, and beelining to Fascisms and trying to trade for democracy, so that I could have the appropriate civics for the revolution. The only interesting thing that I could write about would be the creation of the Trans-Siberian railroad.
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Another great update, I really love this style of writing.... I bet that even your next "boring" update will be worth it!
On a slightly negative side: Is it just my computer or don't the pictures work??
On a slightly negative side: Is it just my computer or don't the pictures work??
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Yah, your attachments died, try uploading them to imgur.
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There I fixed it, i think...
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I still see red X's. At least the colour's in theme. 
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I use Google Chrome, so I don't see your problem. I see the Circle, Triangle, Square.
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Same Here.
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That, i kept on meaning to say it.
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Okay, now i think it is fixed.
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