RFCE 1.3 Playtest Feedback

[gilgames]

OK! a small feedback from 1159:

good news: no ctd
bad news: somthing went wrong in the mid-game. and i am sure, i know how to do it right. also territory size for hungary is....messed up imo. pls check it.
View attachment AutoSave_AD-1452 Turn 284.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[merijn_v1]

I'm running on Windows 7 Enterprise.

@ Gilgames
I can't open the save. I get a message "failed to uncompress data". Do you have another save perhaps?

 

[gilgames]

yes i can try but its strange....
View attachment AutoSave_AD-1440 Turn 280.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[Vectors]

Can we please have countries start with state religions? It feels weird to be Portugal and start with a Catholic Missionary, but then have to switch to Catholicism


EDIT: Can you also please switch the spy for statesman like in DoC? Seems more historical IMO

 

[ales_]

Can we please have countries start with state religions? It feels weird to be Portugal and start with a Catholic Missionary, but then have to switch to Catholicism


EDIT: Can you also please switch the spy for statesman like in DoC? Seems more historical IMO

1) If I'm not mistaken, it was already done in the SVN.
2) DoC hasn't switched the spy for statesman. It has changed spy mechanics AND added statesmen.

 

[Vectors]

1) If I'm not mistaken, it was already done in the SVN.
2) DoC hasn't switched the spy for statesman. It has changed spy mechanics AND added statesmen.

1) it did that less than 24 hours before I posted that
2) True, mostly I like the stateman specialist and GP plus associated effect of allowing anarchy free civic switch and the solve crisis mechanic could be replaced by instead just giving stability points.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Can we please have countries start with state religions? It feels weird to be Portugal and start with a Catholic Missionary, but then have to switch to Catholicism


EDIT: Can you also please switch the spy for statesman like in DoC? Seems more historical IMO

1) If I'm not mistaken, it was already done in the SVN.
2) DoC hasn't switched the spy for statesman. It has changed spy mechanics AND added statesmen.

Actually I always planned to change spies somehow (even thought of removing them altogether), as I felt that the current mechanics are out of place in a medieval mod like this.
When I saw a couple months ago that spies were improved in DoC, and statesmen introduced instead of their specialists, I made a note about it on my todo list right away.
Not yet sure what will I do exactly about spies (how similar it will be to the DoC improvements), but it's sure that eventually those mechanics will be updated too

 

[merijn_v1]

yes i can try but its strange....
View attachment 397351

Still not working for me.

 

[gilgames]

HOUSTON! we got problem.

i play as aragon, and all went sweet. spain was an idiot, so i took andalusia for myself. Its potential now for aragon, which is powerful, but in theses days when stability is allways a problem with any civ, its fine. i was between -2 and +12.
but ani 1354 i got a CTD!!!
if its not that save, i am sorry, my savegames are messed up.
View attachment AutoSave_AD-1356 Turn 252.CivBeyondSwordSave
after next turn ctd.

 

[PinkPallin]

Still not working for me.

I tried to load both saves, and I too got the error Failed to uncompress game data.
Gilgames, did you change anything in the game files?

 

[gilgames]

no, nothing, and it works fine for me

 

[Vectors]

The Ottoman stability map and UHV goals are very misaligned
color coding
CORE
NATURAL
POTS NATURAL
OUTER

UHV1 = Serbia, Bosnia, Banat, Macedonia, Thrace, Moesia, Constantinople, Arberia, Epirus, Thessaloniki, Thessaly, Morea
UHV2 = Colonea, Antiochia, Charsianon, Cilicia, Armeniakon, Anatolikon, Paphlagonia, Thrakesion, Opsikion, Syria, Lebanon, Jerusalem, Egypt

I chose the yellow despite being hard to see because that is the color the game uses

You have the Ottomans conquering provinces that are destabilizing to possess before they are conquering ones that it is destabilizing to not possess, and due to the timing if you focus on stability buildings you can't get enough units to conquer the provinces or if you focus on units to conquer the provinces you will be collapsing and lose cities due to stability.

Suggested reconfiguration that is also more historically accurate with regard to timeline
UHV1: Constantinople, Anatolikon, Paphlagonia, Thrakesion, Opsikion, Charsianon, Cilicia, Armeniakon, Thrace, Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Moesia,
UHV2: Serbia, Bosnia, Banat, Arberia, Epirus, Thessaly, Morea, Syria, Lebanon, Jerusalem, Egypt, Colonea, Antiochia,

The Ottomans should also have militarism

I have never seen a city in Macedonia by Ottoman start

 

[merijn_v1]

no, nothing, and it works fine for me

HOUSTON! we got problem.

i play as aragon, and all went sweet. spain was an idiot, so i took andalusia for myself. Its potential now for aragon, which is powerful, but in theses days when stability is allways a problem with any civ, its fine. i was between -2 and +12.
but ani 1354 i got a CTD!!!
if its not that save, i am sorry, my savegames are messed up.
View attachment 397379
after next turn ctd.

I am able to load this save. But I don't get a CTD. Played until 1365 AD.

This save is however from 1356 AD. Maybe the crash happen a turn before the save?

 

[merijn_v1]

Got a CTD myself.

The log tells that it happens during the turn of France. It looks like it is related to the vassalization of England. The last line in the log hints to that and making England a vassal of France by WB cures the problem.

Log (last part):

Spoiler :

(' 3Miro onBegTurn: ', 193)

PY:Improvement City Ruins was built at 50, 29
PY:Improvement City Ruins was Destroyed at 50, 29
PY:City Bastia's culture has expanded
PY:City Acquired Event: Bastia
PY:Team 18 revolts and is no longer a Vassal State of Team 1
PY:Team 18 becomes a Vassal State of Team 1

 

[jamuja2015]

1160 is working good so far! *knocks on wood* Thanks

 

[gilgames]

no. but that was a hungary game or aragon? aragon game should crash. otherwise i try to save that game and not by auto.

 

[merijn_v1]

no. but that was a hungary game or aragon? aragon game should crash. otherwise i try to save that game and not by auto.

Aragon.

 

[2phunkey4u]

I updated to the current SVN and played a Genoa game. Everything went well - no crashes. But there was a mistake with the 2nd UHV counter. I found 2 corps, but only one got counted in the victory screen. I still got the check upon finishing the eighth bank.

 

[merijn_v1]

Do you have a savegame?

Nevermind. Fixed it. Will upload it soon.

 

[merijn_v1]

Please don't post in the SVN changelog thread. It's only for the moderators to announce changes. Comments can be made in other threads.