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038 - test 1 - Duke
Here is a map of Europe AD 1000
- Greece had the "English city" - it became BIG capital for England
- Rome is elminated easily by barbs
- I like the cities of Germany, but can they settle Central-Europe at the Alps?
- Greece still has Sparta right north of Athens
- Ireland is settled!
others:
- I see China has now more aggressive barbs to face
China is only 3rd in points now, 3rd-4th in general (F9)
- Persia is swiftly taken out by barbs...
on Duke: Europe learns Optics, China learns Banking in AD 1000
Here is a map of Europe AD 1000
- Greece had the "English city" - it became BIG capital for England
- Rome is elminated easily by barbs
- I like the cities of Germany, but can they settle Central-Europe at the Alps?
- Greece still has Sparta right north of Athens
- Ireland is settled!
others:
- I see China has now more aggressive barbs to face
China is only 3rd in points now, 3rd-4th in general (F9)
- Persia is swiftly taken out by barbs...
on Duke: Europe learns Optics, China learns Banking in AD 1000
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038 - test 1 - AD 1300
China takes the lead in score, but in economy the other old Asians and Egypt are better!
Europe learns Astronomy and Engineering,
China and India are past middle ages (Repl. Parts and Sci. Meth.)
China takes the lead in score, but in economy the other old Asians and Egypt are better!
Europe learns Astronomy and Engineering,
China and India are past middle ages (Repl. Parts and Sci. Meth.)
UofMBob said:
close civ and it will be fine
TO UofMBob: I had that problem, delete the file structure from the inside out, ie. start with the innermost folders, delete them, then delete the folders they were in, so on. It should work.
Hokay. On to business.
I've been testing stuff, and testing different resource combos on the map.
Long story short, I got England to settle Ireland and their Island like they're supposed to and got Greece to found Constantinople.
The England is unreliable, they did it once, but I only tested it once. Greece however built Constantinople in 4 out of 4 trys.
Screenshots of England, Europe, and Greece. I'll post another post right after this telling just what I did and uploading the WB scenario. Dang 5 upload limit...
Hokay. On to business.
I've been testing stuff, and testing different resource combos on the map.
Long story short, I got England to settle Ireland and their Island like they're supposed to and got Greece to found Constantinople.
The England is unreliable, they did it once, but I only tested it once. Greece however built Constantinople in 4 out of 4 trys.
Screenshots of England, Europe, and Greece. I'll post another post right after this telling just what I did and uploading the WB scenario. Dang 5 upload limit...
What I did:
First. Lets look at England. I added a sheep resource where they generally settle, and a fish resource north of the fish resource alread near Scotland. That's pretty much all. I also added some cows in the netherlands region just inland to keep france from putting Orleans there, and a fish pretty far to the west of Denmark to encourage settling there:
For Greece. I added yet ANOTHER fish resource to the Constantinople area, and that became too much for the AI to resist, and I already told you the test records. It will allow Constantinople to grow really large, but it did in real life so I'm willing to accept that, not sure about Rhye, but openning up the Black Sea is well worth a little distortion in my mind.
I also added a fish resource to the direct east of Crete, where its only accessible if one settles On Crete. Maybe that will encourage settling. I did the same thing for Corsica/Sardinia near Rome.
I also modified the Egypt coast a little, but I'll talk about htat next. Lastly there is a fish resource between the Greecian Peninsula and the Italian Peninsula.
For Egypt, I wanted to beef them up just slightly, because with the combination of high handicap, lots of barbarians, and relatively NO health whatsoever they are really weak. So I gave them some copper near their capitol. I also put fish along their coast to encourage settling cities there, because otherwise I've seen them go the entire game without a coastal city, which severely weakened them. One of this fish resources is in a place such that I hope it will eventually encourage settling in the Port Said area to get a Canal going.
And here is the WB:
View attachment Rhye's Earth V.9-1.zip
NOTE: I also noticed Greecian settlers wandering around the British iles, but they never settled. Also Russia somehow took Munich from Germany(I gave it back) and then didn't spawn like normal. Not sure why, but I gave them some stuff to see what they did, and then gave Germany back Munich.
EDIT: I almost forgot. It seems to me the reason Rome can't survive the Barbarians is because with Carthage so close to the city in the south they put most of their millitary there. They also don't seem to go straight to mine the Iron, so they can't get Praetorians for a while. I eventually gave them a mine because I didn't want them to die, and they survived. This is the first game I've played where they survived in relatively good shape. Greece lost two of their cities to the horde however, and never took Hattusus.
First. Lets look at England. I added a sheep resource where they generally settle, and a fish resource north of the fish resource alread near Scotland. That's pretty much all. I also added some cows in the netherlands region just inland to keep france from putting Orleans there, and a fish pretty far to the west of Denmark to encourage settling there:
For Greece. I added yet ANOTHER fish resource to the Constantinople area, and that became too much for the AI to resist, and I already told you the test records. It will allow Constantinople to grow really large, but it did in real life so I'm willing to accept that, not sure about Rhye, but openning up the Black Sea is well worth a little distortion in my mind.
I also added a fish resource to the direct east of Crete, where its only accessible if one settles On Crete. Maybe that will encourage settling. I did the same thing for Corsica/Sardinia near Rome.
I also modified the Egypt coast a little, but I'll talk about htat next. Lastly there is a fish resource between the Greecian Peninsula and the Italian Peninsula.
For Egypt, I wanted to beef them up just slightly, because with the combination of high handicap, lots of barbarians, and relatively NO health whatsoever they are really weak. So I gave them some copper near their capitol. I also put fish along their coast to encourage settling cities there, because otherwise I've seen them go the entire game without a coastal city, which severely weakened them. One of this fish resources is in a place such that I hope it will eventually encourage settling in the Port Said area to get a Canal going.
And here is the WB:
View attachment Rhye's Earth V.9-1.zip
NOTE: I also noticed Greecian settlers wandering around the British iles, but they never settled. Also Russia somehow took Munich from Germany(I gave it back) and then didn't spawn like normal. Not sure why, but I gave them some stuff to see what they did, and then gave Germany back Munich.
EDIT: I almost forgot. It seems to me the reason Rome can't survive the Barbarians is because with Carthage so close to the city in the south they put most of their millitary there. They also don't seem to go straight to mine the Iron, so they can't get Praetorians for a while. I eventually gave them a mine because I didn't want them to die, and they survived. This is the first game I've played where they survived in relatively good shape. Greece lost two of their cities to the horde however, and never took Hattusus.
I tried human late starts and I didn't like them.
If you play Greece ok, it's 1 minute.
But for Incas it's 10 to 15 minutes.
Imagine America...
If you play Greece ok, it's 1 minute.
But for Incas it's 10 to 15 minutes.
Imagine America...
We could always play through as one of the other civs till the nations spawns, and then as soon as they do, go to WorldBuilder and save it as a scenario. Granted the scenario would be the same every time, at least at the beginning, but it would serve the purpose if the 'not really playing' load times are too long.
That was also my idea for how one could 'switch' to another civ. As you could play up until Rome spawns, save the game as a scenario, and then load the scenario and choose to play as Rome.
That was also my idea for how one could 'switch' to another civ. As you could play up until Rome spawns, save the game as a scenario, and then load the scenario and choose to play as Rome.
Willowmound
Wordbug
Rhye said:
Could you release two alternative versions? I could wait 15 minutes or even half an hour, I'd just go do something else for a bit. That's how much I like the idea of starting the game in the year your civ came into being...
Elhoim
Iron Tower Studio Dev
Personally I like it... And it would be nice an option for no razing of cities...
then I'll give you a version with that thing enabled, we'll see. (You'll get bored after a while I guess)
Rhye said:
Waiting times (guess)
Greece: 1 min.
Japan, Rome, Persia: 2-3 mins.
Europe, Arabia: 6-8 mins.
Mali, Mongolia, Inca: 10-15 mins.
Well, I can live with that
OK, USA is a different animal, but hey, even that I can wait to...
038
I started a "real" game with Egypt, on Duke level
AD 10, and I have 3 cities.
Many wonders are mine: Oracle, Stonehange, Itza, Hanging.
I have founded buddhism, confucianism and theology.
Science is on 100%
Isn't that a bit too easy?
I don't think I am a way too professional player,
I don't micromanage,
only use the little governor icons...
Now I build some military to defend against barbs...
I only report this because I am thinking of that
on what level we wish the human player to play?
RoC of Civ3 was optimized to be played on Emperor.
Here I suggest Prince...
I started a "real" game with Egypt, on Duke level
AD 10, and I have 3 cities.
Many wonders are mine: Oracle, Stonehange, Itza, Hanging.
I have founded buddhism, confucianism and theology.
Science is on 100%
Isn't that a bit too easy?
I don't think I am a way too professional player,
I don't micromanage,
only use the little governor icons...
Now I build some military to defend against barbs...
I only report this because I am thinking of that
on what level we wish the human player to play?
RoC of Civ3 was optimized to be played on Emperor.
Here I suggest Prince...
I don't know, it's up to your judgement.
We could reduce the range of the levels to 3 or 4...
We could reduce the range of the levels to 3 or 4...
Winterfell
Warlord
I also think Prince should be the optimal level for the player.
Looking forward to the version where we can start as a late civ and the world already has a history!
Looking forward to the version where we can start as a late civ and the world already has a history!
Willowmound
Wordbug
Rhye said:
Cool. I'm very patient
Lachlan
Great Builder of Civs !
I play on Count Level
It's already hard
It's already hard
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