Zardnaar
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That's not much more than minimum wage now.
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That's not much more than minimum wage now.
FriendlyFire
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Remote rual Australia isnt an easy place to live, either takes a special kind of person given its lack of amenities, often primative living conditions, weather and service large area
Sure it looks great "on paper" but it comes with a lot of draw backs.
There are also, ya know, critical shortages of GPs and other health workers in most of regional Australia (note that "regional" includes even Canberra in this context)
Bestbank Tiger
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The US has travel nursing programs. Basically you go somewhere for a few months and then move to the next stop and eventually back home.
Not a complete solution, especially since we have a nationwide shortage of nurses, but it alleviates the problem for remote areas.
Not a complete solution, especially since we have a nationwide shortage of nurses, but it alleviates the problem for remote areas.
The same issue happens all the time in the US. Doctors and other professional move from state to state because of the differences in pay and working conditions. Rural areas can be unpleasant or difficult and the big cities much more lucrative for them. State income taxes and insurance laws make some states more attractive than others. NM has a shortage of doctors. We have plenty of attorneys. People often just follow the money if the conditions are not too terrible.
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Farm Boy
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Yeah, it's fun. Our loan forgiveness crowd was collecting more from enhanced unemployment in 2020 than I was taking home in full time wage. Now that we're scraping along on farm non-income, it's such a joy to see we still pay a higher functional income tax rate, too. Because, you know, reasons. Totally not class and bigotry, that's "for Texans and Republicans."Did I say it's not bad elsewhere?
My example shows that yes, I do understand the OP's position. My country has been in that position for a very long time.
Yeah... poaching people from other countries. Some of them here are called "temporary foreign workers" (TFW) and it's a controversial thing. On the one hand, it's a great way to entice foreign workers who might eventually seek to become citizens. One of my home care workers was doing that a few years ago - she was studying for her citizenship exam and said there were a few things she wasn't clear about. I said she could ask me, and if I could explain it, I would. So we had a conversation about prime ministers and how they get to be prime ministers.
On the flip side, many TFWs' wages are subsidized by the government. The employer gets to pay less, and while it's illegal to fire Canadian citizens to hire TFWs, it happens all the time - usually in the food/entertainment industries, or tourism sector. The fact is that there are tourist places desperate for workers, but Canadians can't afford to work for what's being offered - and if it's in a national park like Banff/Jasper, there's often nowhere for them to live. Commuting to Banff from Calgary every day means they're not really making much to justify that expense. Hence, TFWs who don't have mortgages, student loans, and the myriad expenses that Canadians have.
Most of my home care workers are either TFWs now (mostly from the Philippines, though there's one from Russia) or they were and decided to pursue citizenship. It's not that they give poor service - most are very good at their jobs. It's working conditions - many end up quitting when they find better-paying jobs that don't require the insanity of being assigned to someone in the north end, then have to zip across town to the south end, then out to the east end... and the schedulers seem to think that they're always going to have green lights, light traffic, and no road hazards. I've told my own workers not to stress over being a couple of minutes late - I'd rather they be a couple of minutes late than have an accident because they're afraid I'd be angry with them for being late.
And then there's the issue of people who want to emigrate to Canada and tick all the right professional and educational boxes. They come here and discover that oops, their academic credentials and professional experience aren't good enough, they have to pay $$$$ to take tests or extra courses for recertification, and in the meantime they might end up driving a taxi or delivering pizzas to make the rent and put food on the table. Some have been very vocal lately about how disappointed and angry they were, and have left to either go back to their original country or take jobs in other countries. So this is one reason why we have a shortage of doctors and nurses. They're driving taxis, delivering pizzas, or flipping burgers because their credentials aren't recognized.
Guessing people need to want to travel to a place for that to help
Bestbank Tiger
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The idea is more like "you don't have to move here. Just come for three months".
More likely to get takers that way, which is why it exists.
amadeus
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50,000 per year? That’s nothing, I make millions.
Lexicus
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Cost of living differs
I might grant you a few Canadian cities. After all, a run-down dump in Vancouver won't sell for less than a million, and when it comes to housing, Calgary rents are double what I'm paying here. I honestly don't know how the AISH populace survives in Calgary, since the rent alone is more than we get in a month.
Zardnaar
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Probably sharing rooms.
50k in places like Vancouver, Auckland, Sydney, Melbourne isn't that great. Not really enough to buy a house, raise a family, support a dependent etc.
We're not allowed unless we want our benefits cut, and of course there are landlords who look at it as a risk, as in how would the rent be paid if one person moved out.
I'd say New Zealand's solution is to get annexed by Australia but then I remember South Australia exists and has similar problems with ~everyone I know from there wanting to move to Melbourne.
Fun fact, Australia is the only country with a positive net migration rate versus the United States (data is apparently from 2015, might have changed) so yes sucks for Kiwis living next to the most attractive immigration destination on the planet but of course as a nationalist Big Australia advocate I'm unapologetic.
If you can solve your housing issues (and looks like Auckland is on the right track at least), then maybe New Zealand can absorb the overflow when Australia becomes unaffordable even for the most aspirational immigrant. Otherwise your destiny is to be New Gippsland.
Fun fact, Australia is the only country with a positive net migration rate versus the United States (data is apparently from 2015, might have changed) so yes sucks for Kiwis living next to the most attractive immigration destination on the planet but of course as a nationalist Big Australia advocate I'm unapologetic.
If you can solve your housing issues (and looks like Auckland is on the right track at least), then maybe New Zealand can absorb the overflow when Australia becomes unaffordable even for the most aspirational immigrant. Otherwise your destiny is to be New Gippsland.
Zardnaar
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Well we have an open invitation to join Australia lol.
I don't see it happening ever mostly because of the Maori. I'm not opposed to it happening one day if that's what we want to do.
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Called into the county to investigate doing substitute teaching, since they're always screaming that we're short people for that, I have all the degrees required, and I've done it before. Immediately had rattled off to me over $300 worth of expenses and fees to jump through and pay. All duplicate processes they've already done before and have on file at the state.
Nope. Guess they can keep it.
Nope. Guess they can keep it.
