[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

Nandi, Shaka's mom, is a better choice for a female Zulu leader, but that's not saying much. :p
I want this to happen just so I can savor the outrage. :p
 
But not the Cree? :p
I can see why people dislike the Cree themes, but I'm used to Native American chanting, and the instrumentation gets more diverse as the era progresses. A lot of the secondary ancient music for the Cree also has vocals, based on what I've heard in the Youtube videos/livestreams. :smug:
I admit that I didn't necessarily like just the chanting. It got progressively better. Atomic Cree right now is my favorite out, at least from R&F. I never noticed themes until this expansion so I'm going to have to back and listen to make sure it still is my favorite.
 
When I first saw the first look for the Cree, I watched all of it stunned thinking "...what is Sarah saying? I can't hear a word she is saying... sorry, what did you say? I can see things which look cool but I can't hear you over this racket!"
I cannot joke when I say I watched that first look video three times in a row and couldn't take anything in because of the music.

However when the "First Listen" came out, I was a little bit more understanding, disliking the Ancient, unhappy with the Medieval, neutral to the Renaissance, and then happy with the Atomic.
The article Knorr then wrote about the Poundmaker Singer's involvement then did warm my heart up a little bit to being tolerant to them all and happy with the last two.

But then watching Quill18 (and every single other Youtuber who got their hands on the game) play the Cree, you hear the music in the background it it just sounds so right; it works perfectly and sounds so beautiful; I can't say that it's the best R&F music I know of so far; watching the previews you can hear other unreleased themes and I'm just sounded at every single new piece of music is a work of art; and a large portion of them have voices in them.

I think Cree and Georgia are all voice, Netherlands' ancient era theme I think is Voiced if I recall correctly, and Mongolia has some very very minor throat singing in the background (which is a shame as I love Mongolian throat singing and wish it had a bigger role, I hope it takes center stage in the ancient era).

You can certainly see the Knorr's approach to the Civ6 music evolve; with the Vanilla themes being quite dull and boring (they were cool, but not so in compassion now), the DLCs got much better with Poland being... better then Meh, Australia awakening me, Perisa and Macedon (not at good as Oz but better then Poland), Nubia widening my eyes (A nice refreshing piece, but sitting bellow Oz and Above Persia), Indonesia sits between Oz and Nubia, but Khmer just shooting right up to top and then some more (if there is ever a better piece of music them Khmer's Medieval theme, I will be in CivFanatic Heaven).

So yeah, so far all of the R&F themes are the best yet! ...if we ignore the Khmer because how can music attain the divine without examples of Khmer music divinity?
 
As for the chanting I like it, but in Marbozir's videos, he has his music a little too loud. At the right volume it's perfectly fine.
 
MAKE IT HAPPEN FIRAXIS

LOL, and I thought I was messed up (can't use the other word). I'm in my routine of my weekend routine of civ6 and alcohol. Yeah I don't know what they were thinking with Civ2, but they had the opportunity to be all inclusive, and they did. Didn't matter back then since every civ was the same (other than default behaviour).
 
Now that it's all over, the tragedy is that we've learned we can trust the Chinese leakers, even when they tell us things we really, really don't want to hear.

I may have learned to begin to trust their information, but don't ask me to trust their intentions or like them. They have caused great disappointment and distress in me, especially considering that we must entertain next week's civilization. I will not forgive such impertinence. Of course, I am being dramatic, but considering that the Inca felt so, so close, even as demonstrated by the will of the people, and now I and many of you have to consider that we will be entertaining the Zulu and I will be playing the Zulu (I play every civ and give them the benefit of the doubt) I don't wish those leakers a Happy 2018, at least for the time being because they have been an instrument in ruining my hope and forgo, for a little season I hope, the pleasure of moving my Llama Cavalry around and delighting as they spit on their enemies when they win (that is the way that I choose to envision them), as well as seeing Sapa Inca, Huayna Capac, almost overburdened by all the gold in his majestic attire, with Tambos as his UI and some really cool LUA that involves "el camino del Inca". But, patience is a virtue which I choose to exercise from hence forth, ok, maybe after they release the Zulu not before I mock in contempt at all their particulars if only to remain loyal to the Inca. After that, I can be a very reasonable man and allow their existence. Anyone with me?
 
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I may have learned to begin to trust their information, but don't ask me to trust their intentions or like them. They have caused great disappointment and distress in me, especially considering that we must entertain next week's civilization. I will not forgive such impertinence. Of course, I am being dramatic, but considering that the Inca felt so, so close, even as demonstrated by the will of the people, and now I and many of you have to consider that we will be entertaining the Zulu and I will be playing the Zulu (I play every civ and give them the benefit of the doubt) I don't wish those leakers a Happy 2018, at least for the time being because they have been an instrument in ruining my hope and forgo, for a little season I hope, the pleasure of moving my Llama Cavalry around and delighting as they spit on their enemies when they win (that is the way that I choose to envision them), as well as seeing Sapa Inca, Huayna Capac, almost overburdened by all the gold in his majestic attire, with Tambos as his UI and some really cook LUA that involves "el camino del Inca". But, patience is a virtue which I choose to exercise from hence forth, ok, maybe after they release the Zulu not before I mock in contempt at all their particulars if only to remain loyal to the Inca. After that, I can be a very reasonable man and allow their existence. Anyone with me?

Don't kill the messengers. :nono:

They could be the ones that leak the Inca and the Vietnamese. :hug:
 
They better not dare and deprive us of the pleasure of deciphering the hints all by our happy selves. Tired of leaks.
Vader is Luke's father.
Harry is a horcrux.
The T-800 is a good guy in Terminator 2.
The alien in Cloverfield looks like a waterbug.
Luke dies.
Snape kills Dumbledore.
Rosebud is a sled.
It's a cookbook.
He was on Earth the whole time.
 
The T-800 is a good guy in Terminator 2.

When I watched Terminator (and then Terminator 2) with my parents and brothers, they'd kept this one a secret. Best surprise I've ever had. Also, I don't know the second-last one, and the last one does ring a bell but I don't know from where.
 
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