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Rise of the Imperator (Chapter I)

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by Lord Civius, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. autocon

    autocon Deus da Guerra

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    civius my man, my apologies for not being able to play my set of turns so far, been busy with work during week and traveling during weekends

    if spot still mine i'll go ahead an play asap, thank you
     
  2. Korias

    Korias King

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    Well, whoever is next on the roster might want to take it instead. Seems that my computer is still screwing up somewhere- About 6 turns in I end up blue screening, so as of right now I'm pretty much unable to play Civ- I've done reinstalls, cache deletions, defrags, nothing works. Whats even weird is that nothing has changed recently, Civ 4 was running smoothly until a few days ago.

    The one thing I can think of is that the computer is failing to recognize the additional ram- Stock 1.75 GB, But there's an additional 2GB that dont seem to be functioning.

    :sad: Until I can get a consistent game going again I'm going to have to be skipped. I can provide lurking comments but until then my playing is completely shot.
     
  3. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    Sorry to hear Korias :sad: seems the stars are just not aligning for this game. Our man Autocon is back so get on it whenever you're ready.
     
  4. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    At this point, someone, anyone, please play
     
  5. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    I agree, it has been 2 days with no "got it" from Autocon. Looks like it's on you glenmetz.
     
  6. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    OK, will do tonight. The plan is to beeline to writing, build a few warriors/scouts, and build libraries ASAP for culture pop. Got it.
     
  7. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    I didn't play last night as I had a server issue at work pop up that had me working until 9PM. I'll play later tonight.
     
  8. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    No worries one more day won't really matter.
     
  9. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    Turn 55 (2625BC)-Worker starts a farm
    Turn 56 (2600BC)-Revolt into slavery-We do have 2 happiness resources nearby so we'll be ok on happiness for a bit and the whip should help
    Turn 59 (2525BC)-Warrior done in Rome, start another one
    Turn 61 (2475BC)-Rome grows to 3, whip a warrior out to send to Antium for defense, Rome to build another warrior for scouting
    Turn 63 (2425BC)-Another warrior done, start on another. Worker done with Farm, roads it up.
    Turn 65 (2375BC)-Worker done with road, send him off to West of Antium to start chop before Writing is learned for library. Science down to 80%, writing in 6
    Turn 67 (2325BC)-Rome grows to size 3 again. As soon as writing is in, I'll whip the last warrior and use the overrun towards Library
    Turn 69 (2275BC)-Whip warrior in Rome, Writing in next turn
    Turn 70 (2250BC)-Writing in, research set to Mysticism. Rome starts working on a Library. Send just completed warrior scouting SouthEast moving counter clockwise
    Turn 71 (2225BC)-Send completed worker in Antium to road up the gems (we need the happiness bonus in Rome). we loose 1st warrior scout to a barb archer
    Turn 72 (2200BC)-We lose our other warrior to a different archer (we were even on a hill). They are very near our borders and I'm kind of worried. Bismarck comes looking for open borders, I agree
    Chop done in Antium, the start a farm then will chop other Grass/Forest tile
    Turn 75 (2125BC)-I turn it over here with the turn to be played. Nothing really new to show picture wise so I won't post one. The worker West of Rome is free to do as you wish. I think maybe we send him to hills near Antium to build mines? Or another farm?

    Mysticism due in 3

    Next up, plans?
     

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  10. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    Got it.
    Looked over the save and I think a couple warriors are needed ASAP, at leat one more in both cities. Rome culture pops next turn so I'll go get the gold and build a few more farms around Rome. Mostly concentrate on whipping library, Granary and getting out a Settler in Rome. Antium to pop ASAP and get copper online we will need axes for settler and worker escorts. Korias has swayed me and I like Rome for a GP farm after we pump out workers and settlers. Antium will make a descent production city so I think we should concentrate on a commerce city next.
    I think 5 tiles East of Rome (green on mfies' dotmap) will give us a good cottage farm. Without IW it is the only city we can really work right away. Lots of forests to chop for Library and Granary while we get the cottages up. What do you guys think?
     
  11. mfie

    mfie Warlord

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    I agree, but I think the gold can wait (we don't need extra happiness right now) until we settle the green city.
    I think we should try to expand as quickly as possible, so we will need techs to improve our cities. After we get axemans, I think military can wait for some time (AI is not that close, of course we don't know for sure since we have almost nothing explored). I don't think we have much need of or a chance at any of the early wonders.

    Spoiler :


    City/land improvement techs we lack:
    - Hunting : No need for, since there aren't any resources that need camp in the area and were going for axeman, not archers
    - Animal husbandery: there is a cow around the green city, so if were going to settle there, this is important + maybe it reveales some horse
    - Masonry: No Masonry needed resorces in the area. I think we are not going for piramids/ great wall. (not needed)
    - Sailing: No water, cities will be connected by river when borders of rome expand
    - Iron Working: Is needed when we are going to settle the gem city + There is a lot of jungle when we settle the city 5 tiles east of Rome (But its not so imortant to remove the jungle there: All cities will be connected by river, so we'll have to health resources there + fresh water, wich is enough to let the city grow to 3 or 4 without unhealthyness even with the jungle
    - Metal casting: I never use workshops, so i have no experience with them, but I still don't think we'll need them soon. Forge can be usefull, since we have more than enough healthyness
    - Mathematics: Were not needing an aquaduct because happiness will be faster a problem then unhappiness (due to fresh water everywere). But it is the prerequisite of Calendar, Concstruction and currency
    - Calendar: We have a lot resources that need plantage (4)
    - Construction: No whale boats needed, but I don't know about colloseum
    - Currency: Is to be seen when we'll have economy problems
    - Code of Laws: I think slavery is more of use here than caste system and we won't need courthouses very soon, we need the same things for this as for monarchy
    - Monarchy: No monarchy needed resources, Hereditary Rule is always nice, but we'll have to get a lot of techs to get to monarchy, I think: not worth it

    Conclusion:
    I think Animal Husbandery next, followed by Mathematics or Iron Working (either first Mathematics followed by Calendar or Currency. With Iron Working after that. Or first Iron Working, followed by Mathematics. Mathematics itself is of little use here). This is depending on the situation (Do we have a settler fast, the city we settle, maybe horse that appears,...)

    EDIT: Who's next, when I look at the roster I would say Lord Civius. But a lot of people have been skipped
     
  12. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    More warriors for defense and scouting would be good.

    I agree on the eastern city settling with you Civius.

    Why not research alpha and see what techs we can trade for?
     
  13. Korias

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    My vote is Iron Working. We are the Romans, so use of the Praetorian will come into play. The earlier, the better. We can then wait for somebody else to get Alpha and then trade for it / sue for it after a war.
     
  14. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    I like that thinking regarding the Praetorians
     
  15. Korias

    Korias King

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    Overall, the next strategy should be to get Iron Working before we finish the next settler so we know if and where nearby Iron is. Then we need to get a city there to claim it and start cranking out Praets for a Praet Rush on someone. We need to get the territory of others scouted out ASAP so we know where to rush.
     
  16. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    I agree with Korias we should go IW next. I don't know why I didn't notice all the jungle in the east. I am using another computer for civ and the screen is small and I thought they were mostly forest. We need to clear jungle and find Iron fo Praets so we can kill 2 birds with one stone.
     
  17. Korias

    Korias King

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    Ultimately, we should really push two things as our main goals- Praet Rush and unlocking our UB, the Forum. Combined with our Philosophical Trait, thats a whopping +75% GPP Before other bonuses. If we can generate a GS in Rome quickly enough and get an Academy / Bulb something, it might give us the edge to take out a rival.
     
  18. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    I'm ready now, Korias is busy getting civ back online and everyone else has been mia for a couple days and longer. I'll play next then we can try to go back through the list. Anyone on the list who can't play anymore let us know soon so we can find replacements.

    I'll try and get us working 2 scientists as soon as possible.
     
  19. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    State of the Empire,
    Finished my turn-set, went ahead and did 30 turns. Iron is online after founding Camae NE of Rome and mining immediately, we also have horses within our cultural borders. In Rome- whipped a library, chopped a Settler, built a warrior with hammer overflow after sending Romes warrior to escort. Rome is now growing, building a scout and is using 1 Scientist (6 GPP). I took a gamble and did not chop a monument in Antium built warrior to fogbust instead. It worked out we had iron just outside of our cultural borders. Antium is back to building its library. I was not able to get any more workers out so I would put it on the high priority list. We also need to start pumping out Preats for early rush. I suggest improving Antium for production and perhaps chopping to finish the library for culture pop.

    Research-
    discoveries, (finished) Myst-->IW-->Hunting-->AH (on the last turn)
    Started Math to beeline Currency for Forums.

    Military- A barbarian is roaming a few tiles south of Rome and we can whip an axe there if we have to. Suggest targeting Carthage for early Praet rush if Biz doesn't have horses for Numidian Cavalry.

    Rivals- Carthage is to our south, fogbusted one city and has 1 Archer for defense. Green rival to our north (can see the line on the side of the fog). My guess is Ethiopia.
     

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  20. glenmetz

    glenmetz Prince

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    Well played Civius. I think Carthage is probably a good target if they are close. Get a stack of 10 or so Praets and romp right through them.
     

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