DMOC
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Interseting, I didn't know that. Maybe that's why he seems to do as good a job as most creative AI civs do....
Role Play Challenge: LawlEss Hammurabi and the Battle of the Warlords II
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Interseting, I didn't know that. Maybe that's why he seems to do as good a job as most creative AI civs do....
Dresden
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You can't settle 1 SW (or 1 W) of the copper before St Pete is gone because it's only 2 tiles away. I'd probably put the copper city either 1 N of the copper or right on it.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Lawless Hammurabi: Part II
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VENGENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, we did not hold back this game and are playing up the RPC aspect to the hilt! Lawlessness!
We started by revolting to slavery. we then used the whip to ruch the settler
We are moving real fast as time is the issue here!
Now, what to do with that copper????
Yep, we settled right on top of the resource for instant access! Did not even need a road!
Techpath was simple. IW! Yes we have copper, but we are looking for blood here and to rebuild Hammurabi's self-esteem! we started Fishing (real need of commerce) but teching slow due to overexpansion.
And after IW
Yes we have it in our BFC. Unfortunately Ragnar has it also.
We used all three cities and chopping to get a fast force of axes...
No polite DOW against Ragnar, we simply steamrolled into Viking lands!
We ignored the nearby marble city and proceeded directly to where we expected the capital to be
Not on a hill, no walls, and my guess is he is not in slavery as Ragnar did not whip any defenders.
After finding only 1 archer and 1 axeman.
And we captured the Viking capital!!!!!!!
The remainder of the unused force headed towards Marble city
While the Nidros victors got promoted to CRII and recouped.
Coming together agauinst the last Viking city
Instant Horse! Hammurabi takes Ragnars severed head and plant's it on a stake as a lesson to the other AIs.
we leave a token defender here, start moving the extra Bowmen to the new cities, build a connecting road, a transport all the available axemen to our copper city. A view of the Babylonian empire so far
So we have all the needed military resources. Stalin is teching IW my and my guess is that he goes after that jungle iron fast.
Our economy is terrible, and we cannot build ANYTHING except military!
My feeling is that we imediately slam Stalin, razing St. pet's and taking Moscow which will further fund our research. The economy will tank VERY soon and we really need
Pottery
Writing
Mysticism
Lawlessness at it's best. Die Ragnar Die!!! Death to all Vikings!
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VENGENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, we did not hold back this game and are playing up the RPC aspect to the hilt! Lawlessness!
We started by revolting to slavery. we then used the whip to ruch the settler
We are moving real fast as time is the issue here!
Now, what to do with that copper????
Yep, we settled right on top of the resource for instant access! Did not even need a road!
Techpath was simple. IW! Yes we have copper, but we are looking for blood here and to rebuild Hammurabi's self-esteem! we started Fishing (real need of commerce) but teching slow due to overexpansion.
And after IW
Yes we have it in our BFC. Unfortunately Ragnar has it also.
We used all three cities and chopping to get a fast force of axes...
No polite DOW against Ragnar, we simply steamrolled into Viking lands!
We ignored the nearby marble city and proceeded directly to where we expected the capital to be
Not on a hill, no walls, and my guess is he is not in slavery as Ragnar did not whip any defenders.
After finding only 1 archer and 1 axeman.
And we captured the Viking capital!!!!!!!
The remainder of the unused force headed towards Marble city
While the Nidros victors got promoted to CRII and recouped.
Coming together agauinst the last Viking city
Instant Horse! Hammurabi takes Ragnars severed head and plant's it on a stake as a lesson to the other AIs.
we leave a token defender here, start moving the extra Bowmen to the new cities, build a connecting road, a transport all the available axemen to our copper city. A view of the Babylonian empire so far
So we have all the needed military resources. Stalin is teching IW my and my guess is that he goes after that jungle iron fast.
Our economy is terrible, and we cannot build ANYTHING except military!
My feeling is that we imediately slam Stalin, razing St. pet's and taking Moscow which will further fund our research. The economy will tank VERY soon and we really need
Pottery
Writing
Mysticism
Lawlessness at it's best. Die Ragnar Die!!! Death to all Vikings!
Not doing too badly, except for the crashing economy. Once that recovers, you'll be in great shape.
On an unrelated note, I got BtS today, so maybe after taking some time to learn the new stuff, I'll play some of these and see how long I last.
On an unrelated note, I got BtS today, so maybe after taking some time to learn the new stuff, I'll play some of these and see how long I last.
TheMeInTeam
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Looks ok so far! Forgive me for not wanting to shadow another go of this...I'll take the first win and run 
. Marathon is something else - it really makes this doable, especially if you get jumbos.
Be careful not to keep too many cities. I had to raze a LOT more than in a normal game because of the rules - don't tank out entirely!
. Marathon is something else - it really makes this doable, especially if you get jumbos.Be careful not to keep too many cities. I had to raze a LOT more than in a normal game because of the rules - don't tank out entirely!
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Lawless Hammurabi: Part III
Another fine segment with MORE warring and MORE land that we absolutely can barely support! Economy, who the hell needs it!
While our cities were producing troops and an occasional worker (can't build anything else!) we took our remaining army and
Strike while the fire is hot! And the Russians are hurting in power!
we opted to keep St. Petersberg! All cities will eventually help our economy. And I prefer to have these tightly packed cities considering the inability to get courthouses!
We regropued, healed, brought a few swords and........
Add another capital to the babylonian empire!
Now consider the lands
Sure we can wipe out Stalin fast, but at the moment he is a buffer between us and everyone's favorite MadMan, Monty!
Peace for nothing, well OK for now.
Techpath went straight for the economy: Fishing/Mysticism/Pottery and a good part of Writing.
Unlike the last attempt, this game erupted into an early slufest
Stalin foolishly jumped into the fray against Monty, my guess to get some desperately needed lands. Too bad he does not appear to have metals or horses.
Finally a religion spread to us
I saved here looking for some suggestions.
Do we adopt Judaism and befriend Al and Boudica? Risks ticking off Monty and Shaka, but we do have the military to protect ourselves for now.
The other question is techs after writing. Techs I think we could use right about now
Masonry
Sailing
Finally some shots of our empire
I think we need one more city to capture the iron and cows, simply because someone will settler there soon.
Cities
Diplomacy
And techs
Once we tech writing I think we spam libraries before any additional troops although like I said one more settler may be in order. Once we get libraries we can run a good SE until we get the cottages on line.
Another fine segment with MORE warring and MORE land that we absolutely can barely support! Economy, who the hell needs it!
While our cities were producing troops and an occasional worker (can't build anything else!) we took our remaining army and
Strike while the fire is hot! And the Russians are hurting in power!
we opted to keep St. Petersberg! All cities will eventually help our economy. And I prefer to have these tightly packed cities considering the inability to get courthouses!
We regropued, healed, brought a few swords and........
Add another capital to the babylonian empire!
Now consider the lands
Sure we can wipe out Stalin fast, but at the moment he is a buffer between us and everyone's favorite MadMan, Monty!
Peace for nothing, well OK for now.
Techpath went straight for the economy: Fishing/Mysticism/Pottery and a good part of Writing.
Unlike the last attempt, this game erupted into an early slufest
Stalin foolishly jumped into the fray against Monty, my guess to get some desperately needed lands. Too bad he does not appear to have metals or horses.
Finally a religion spread to us
I saved here looking for some suggestions.
Do we adopt Judaism and befriend Al and Boudica? Risks ticking off Monty and Shaka, but we do have the military to protect ourselves for now.
The other question is techs after writing. Techs I think we could use right about now
Masonry
Sailing
Finally some shots of our empire
I think we need one more city to capture the iron and cows, simply because someone will settler there soon.
Cities
Diplomacy
And techs
Once we tech writing I think we spam libraries before any additional troops although like I said one more settler may be in order. Once we get libraries we can run a good SE until we get the cottages on line.
Dresden
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I'd definitely adopt Judaism to try and keep Al and Boudi on your good side; one of the lessons from the first attempt was to join all the cool kids and grab one of the big religions if you can so you're not stranded all by yourself.
In this game right now Judaism is even with Buddhism for the widest spread and the two people running it share the majority of your Southern border and are the only people willing to trade techs with you currently. Shaka won't like it, but he's out to ruin your RPCs anyhow so screw him. And Monty's already Annoyed at you for beating up his fellow Hindu Stalin.
In this game right now Judaism is even with Buddhism for the widest spread and the two people running it share the majority of your Southern border and are the only people willing to trade techs with you currently. Shaka won't like it, but he's out to ruin your RPCs anyhow so screw him. And Monty's already Annoyed at you for beating up his fellow Hindu Stalin.
Good advice, adopt judaism and make soem friends. If the numbers look right its always worth taking the time to see Monty dead and + diplo with Al can't be a bad thing
do you mean the cow & marble city for next site?
can you still grab one of the gems sites? it'll probably pay for a city or 2 by itself
EDIT: 500th post!
do you mean the cow & marble city for next site?
can you still grab one of the gems sites? it'll probably pay for a city or 2 by itself
EDIT: 500th post!
Kev
Hired Goon
I agree that the gems would be a good get now - especially good to have the happiness if you want to do a bit of an SE in the short term. The gems site can pick up iron too depending where you put it (possibly something else to the south as well). If Al or Boudica need some iron, having the extra could offer you the opportunity to trade to them so they can hold out better vs. Monty/Shaka - could also get you some nice "supplied resource" points and perhaps more happy stuff in return.
I think you have the marble/iron site surrounded now and should be able to claim it later. Don't see you heading off to a marble wonder that quickly anyhow.
I think you have the marble/iron site surrounded now and should be able to claim it later. Don't see you heading off to a marble wonder that quickly anyhow.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Lawless Hammurabi: Part IV
we continue our efforts to bring civilization completely to it's knees and into a realm of completel lawlessness! The agressive AI is much easier to work arround when there is an easier pigeon to kill!
Techpath: Writing/Masonry/sailing/start HBR. Rolling right along!
First of all I messed up with teh iron/cow city, no such thing existed. AS I did not see a benefit to settling teh region now although we do have a settler ready to go. Also there was mention of the gem region
The grand lady decided to settle those pretty gems herself, and who am I to deny her! By the way, I did adopt Judaism befriending Al and Boudica, well not sure how much we are befriended!
Then we got a really nice random event
Hell, we have half them anyway! We direct Babylonia to finish teh order!
And The world continues to erupt in flames!
And I seam to forgotten the Great Khan, who we finally met.
While he is annoyed we still found him useful, as you shall see later.
At the moment we notice Monty has done a number on old Stalin, leaving him with just one city. As Monty is the usual idiot sending his armies against Al, we decided to eliminate one more threat.
AND
In hindsite I probably should have razed the city, but so be it!.
Stalin did get us our first GG
Yep, settled him in the capital! Babylonia will be our Military machine in this game.
We completed our quest
So now each of Hammurabi's Swordsmen start with CRI, combat I. Those built in the capital come out as CR III right now. The additional one we created for the quest we did not upgfrade until we got the Quest done, giving us 4 immediate CR III swords!
And since our mighty military is killing our economy, we decided to send these brave men off to battle to lighten Shaka's cities as well as our costs!
Strictly for the economy folks, strickly for the economy.
We first check the glance screen.
Noone is really Shaka's friend, and the only fellow Buddhist, genghis, is at war with him. As well as Boudica.
We quickly stampeded out troops against Shaka
We marched directly against where we expected the capital.
So another AI capital and it's the Buddhist holy city.
We razed it to the ground! VENGENCE against Shaka, damned that felt good. Sure we could have used a nice holy city but the hell with it, Hammurabi is Lawless and a religious Holy City adds too much structure!
Now Shaka is taking a beating but man can this guy still fight! We lost quite a bit of our army, going too fast and foolishly leaving troops behind to heal that were picked off by HAs and I lost my lone protective Spearman when he went against a lone Zulu HA! Ah well.
We decided to end this war soon, but needed a way to get back home, thus
We razed another city in our path so we could use the Celtic lands to proceed home! At this point
Shaka took a major blow here! Let him struggle to live against the Mongols and Celts!
I saved here, deciding on the next step. HBR is on the list, followed by Math and perhaps Currency or Construction.
An overall view of our lands
Demographics shows we have the strongest army.
And our cities
Struggling with the economy, but that was expected.
The question is, do we hunker down and tech off or build a military and hit Shaka again! My guess is to right the economy, get currency/construction and then go for Blood!.
we continue our efforts to bring civilization completely to it's knees and into a realm of completel lawlessness! The agressive AI is much easier to work arround when there is an easier pigeon to kill!
Techpath: Writing/Masonry/sailing/start HBR. Rolling right along!
First of all I messed up with teh iron/cow city, no such thing existed. AS I did not see a benefit to settling teh region now although we do have a settler ready to go. Also there was mention of the gem region
The grand lady decided to settle those pretty gems herself, and who am I to deny her! By the way, I did adopt Judaism befriending Al and Boudica, well not sure how much we are befriended!
Then we got a really nice random event
Hell, we have half them anyway! We direct Babylonia to finish teh order!
And The world continues to erupt in flames!
And I seam to forgotten the Great Khan, who we finally met.
While he is annoyed we still found him useful, as you shall see later.
At the moment we notice Monty has done a number on old Stalin, leaving him with just one city. As Monty is the usual idiot sending his armies against Al, we decided to eliminate one more threat.
AND
In hindsite I probably should have razed the city, but so be it!.
Stalin did get us our first GG
Yep, settled him in the capital! Babylonia will be our Military machine in this game.
We completed our quest
So now each of Hammurabi's Swordsmen start with CRI, combat I. Those built in the capital come out as CR III right now. The additional one we created for the quest we did not upgfrade until we got the Quest done, giving us 4 immediate CR III swords!
And since our mighty military is killing our economy, we decided to send these brave men off to battle to lighten Shaka's cities as well as our costs!
Strictly for the economy folks, strickly for the economy.
We first check the glance screen.
Noone is really Shaka's friend, and the only fellow Buddhist, genghis, is at war with him. As well as Boudica.
We quickly stampeded out troops against Shaka
We marched directly against where we expected the capital.
So another AI capital and it's the Buddhist holy city.
We razed it to the ground! VENGENCE against Shaka, damned that felt good. Sure we could have used a nice holy city but the hell with it, Hammurabi is Lawless and a religious Holy City adds too much structure!
Now Shaka is taking a beating but man can this guy still fight! We lost quite a bit of our army, going too fast and foolishly leaving troops behind to heal that were picked off by HAs and I lost my lone protective Spearman when he went against a lone Zulu HA! Ah well.
We decided to end this war soon, but needed a way to get back home, thus
We razed another city in our path so we could use the Celtic lands to proceed home! At this point
Shaka took a major blow here! Let him struggle to live against the Mongols and Celts!
I saved here, deciding on the next step. HBR is on the list, followed by Math and perhaps Currency or Construction.
An overall view of our lands
Demographics shows we have the strongest army.
And our cities
Struggling with the economy, but that was expected.
The question is, do we hunker down and tech off or build a military and hit Shaka again! My guess is to right the economy, get currency/construction and then go for Blood!.
Kwibuss
Warlord
This is another cool RPC madscientist 
Funny that you lost the first one, but this one is going your way.
This gave me an idea tho. Gonna start a game with all the aggresive civs and Julius/Napoleon. I will play a random civ. 12 civs on a standard map will be a bit too crowded so I'll pick a large map
Am I missing any other warmongering non aggresive civ?
Funny that you lost the first one, but this one is going your way.
This gave me an idea tho. Gonna start a game with all the aggresive civs and Julius/Napoleon. I will play a random civ. 12 civs on a standard map will be a bit too crowded so I'll pick a large map
Am I missing any other warmongering non aggresive civ?
@ kwibuss: izzy is pretty warmongering
@ Mad; It looks like you aren't going to be on anyone list of people to attack. so this is a good opportunity to fix your economy.
how about a rifling beeline? if you can get to rifles first then turn all those well promoted swords into rifles...
@ Mad; It looks like you aren't going to be on anyone list of people to attack. so this is a good opportunity to fix your economy.
how about a rifling beeline? if you can get to rifles first then turn all those well promoted swords into rifles...
IPEX-731BA5DD06
Deity
I'd look at moving capital to Akkad, its more central to your future empire, and you can leave Babylon as your army pump/westpoint.
Trouble is by capitalizin Addad, you've committedto warring against Boudica, or maybe eliminating shaka all together
Trouble is by capitalizin Addad, you've committedto warring against Boudica, or maybe eliminating shaka all together
