Role Play Challenge: The Amazon Queen

[madscientist]

The Amazon Queen: Part VI

Merry Christmas to all!!!! A very Celtic Winter Solice too as Boudica helped herself to a little more Holiday land! Let's see what our Ice Queen has install!

We decided to cave in to popular opinion and finish off the Babylonian King

Sure we have a big militayr lead but things are not so easy as you think, Nasty RPC rules and all. Still we started off reasonably well.

NOTE::: To make clear I did relaod from the automatic save menu once as I accidently sent a defending longbow from a former Bablylonian city, something I did not intend but was accidently attached to a knight.

After getting Victoria pleased by giving her Optics at her request we bribed her into this

My thinking is to keep her and charlemagne busy for while.

Victoria did a decent job of damaging Charles

While we kept at Hammurabi.

Our techpath this segment went: Gunpowder/Nationahood and start Military Tradition.

An annoying aspect of the RPC rules

So we opted for Organized religion, then converted back to theocracy.

We advanced onto the Babylonian capital

Which had a nice surprise

The GLH wonder!!!!

Meanwhile Victoria asked for our assistance against Charles (oops, didn't think that far ahead in the RPC rules) thus we got thrown into a 2 front war.

It cost us

Dang, lost the HRE former capital. Ah well, we shall recapture it at a later date.

So we fight a 2 front was, not about to let Hammurabi off the hook here

We razed that city to avoid even more cultural pressure from Vicky.

Soon the war horns blare again and Cathy finds herself dogpiled.

We finally made peace with Charles, getting 30 gold. Time top concentrate on Hammurabi first.

At this point Hammurabi wanted to capitulate to us which we refused, thus he capitulated to Victoria

The bad news is that she's the only AI with power numbers close to us, the good news is she sucks at warfare.

So after fighting off some English troops we continue our assault on Hammurabi, adding Muskets to our forces.

We took out that former HRE city Vicky captured and razed it

After teching nationalism we managed to nab education from Cathy

We lost the education race bigtime but no concern.

FINALLY, the last Babylonian city, or so we thought

We kept it claiming all the Babylonian core cities

And we took peace with Victoria.

We saved a few turns later, but here are the lands to the west

A few HRE cities and one lone Babylonian city. To clarify an RPC rule, we do NOT have to utterly destroy Hammurabi if he's vassaled to Victoria, in fact we are obligated to NOT attack them unless we are in danger of losing.

OK we saved here while cleaning up a bit and loading up units along the HRE border.

Techs

Again not bad.

Demographics

We did revolt to mercantilism as that gets us more useful options.

So there we are, preparing to make a last assault on Charlemagne. After that we can see who is out there next, Suryavarman is getting fairly large and causing real trouble. Of Tech-manian Mansa needs to be eventually eliminated!

 

[madscientist]

No updates this weekend. Me and the family are heading off to a winter vacation for a bit, makes up a bit for our missed summer one.

 

[Feyaria]

shadow game 835 AD till 1200 AD

Spoiler :

Forgot to mention earlier: built the Parthenon in the capital and captured Sistine chappel and Temple of Artemis in Mutal
Last segemtn ended with Pacal destroyed, i am still at war with Catherine

865 AD trade Education + Printing Press for Nationalism + money with Hatty
875 trade Nationalism for Guilds + money with Vicky
895 Took Military Tradition from Liberalism, trade Lib to Hatty for Divine Right + money
905 After taking 5 russian cities, i take peace for 950 gold, capitulation was possible, but i didnt take it
910 castle quest, i have already more then 9, so i take the +3 relation
915 trading Divine Right to Isabella for Banking and Money
920 and now she wants Nationalism too, i give it and now Isabell is friendly, even with a different religion!!!
925 Great Priest, saved for GA
940 war against Mansa Musa starts
945 Gunpowder, upgrading some Elephants to Cuirassiers
950 Killed Mansas SoD, he is ready for capitulation, but he must die
1000 Soldiers: 1222000, best rival: 432000
1005 take Timbuktu with Uni of Sankore (with i lost due to anarchy from switching to Theocracy on Isabellas wish) Its a huge jump in science, i have 24 Temples and 25 monastaries = ~ 100 raw
1015 Moai Statues in Chitzen Itza, on the northern island with 4 lakes, 7 coasts 3 ocean
1020 Cathy wants Guilds and gets it, the tech lead is still growing
1040 Replaceable Parts
1045 Selling Divine Right for some money to up research to 40%
1065 trading Replaceable Parts to Hatty for Economics + 610 gold
1080 Mali destroyed, only one enemy remaining: Sury
1100 Rifling, Begging money from the ladies for upgrading
1105 war with sury starts
1130 Hatshepsut wants Gunpowder, i am happy to give it to my friendly sister
1140 Oxford finished in Bibracte, 5th GG, settled in Heroic Epic citiy,
Great Scientist arrives, start GA and switch to Free Market
close to domination, so i liberate a former russian city back to Catherine
1145 Trading rifling for consituion, 4 cities to go
1155 Taking Surys capital with Colossus and Great Lighthouse
1160 Chemistry
1190 Sury dead, land: 53,39% (54% needed), now just waiting for border pops
1200 Steel, DOMINATION VICTORY, Score 303428

Friendly Isabella, despite different religion:

Spoiler :

Friendly Catherine, even a few turns after the war

Spoiler :

My 80% retreat GG, a Combat VI maceman is a strong as a rifle (8+75%=14)

Spoiler :

savegame: View attachment Mad Scientist-boudica victory AD-1200.CivBeyondSwordSave

What the RPC rules changed:

Spoiler :

- I would have atacked Victoria right after Saladin to get my back free and to avoid 2 long borders. would have saved some garrison troops.

- More commerce with more open borders and tech trading with all the males, especialy with Mansa Musa would have led to a much earlier tech lead.

- I wouldnt have lost Uni of Sankore, a great boost to science with all the temples i had already built for AP-hammer bonus

-I would have used Representation from the captured Pyramids instead of HR, what Cathy wanted me to be in. Happy cap was >20, so HR was only to please my russian sister. I was running no Specialists, as there was no city with a lot of food and the capital was making 42 GPP/turn due to the wonders

Why i won (and why so early)

Spoiler :

Doing what Boudica does best: warmongering! There were only a few rounds of peace to regroup and hral before the next war started. There was not a single AI-AI war, the only AI war activity was Catherine and Victoria DoW against me after attacking Pacal.

I realy neglected my economy, i lived long from the gold plundered from cities and from begging from the ladies / demanding tribute from the males. Science slider was at 20% or 30% most of the time. But with enough cities, even this is enough to get a tech lead.

The 80% retreat warlord helped a lot. Charismatic is the best trait to attach a GG to a unit, because he gets a lot of promotions realy fast. With march promotion and a Medic III/Woodsman III Medic at his side, this warlord can attack every round at full health. At the end with Combat VI i was attacking with 98% while most other units where below 50% attack odds.

Land needed for domination:

Spoiler :

The land of the males alone was not enough for domination, but not very much is missing. The few cities i conquered from Cathy were enough to ensure domination

I had a lot of fun playing the Queen of waring! Now i am looking forward to an entertaining official game.

 

[Pieman]

Friendly Isabella, despite different religion? Tres bizarre.

 

[Point13]

Friendly Isabella, despite different religion? Tres bizarre.

I double-taked for sure.

 

[madscientist]

The Amazon Queen: Part VII

Our fine Amazon flexes her muscles and expands the Celtic empire, saving at a point where we have to make a decision!

We start by some hosekeeping and a trade with our English Sister

Again, I am not hesitant to be generous in trades as the ladies will be asking for the techs eventually.

We also took a defensive pact with isabella which did not last long because

Time to finish off this HRE pain

There were only 4 Charlemagne cities left and with Sitting Bull still hiding out off-shore there was not much work for the Celtic warriors.

The final city to the north we simply razed! So both Charlemagne and Saladin are dead, Hammurabi down to 1 city, and Sitting Bull stuck on the island off-shore. So much for protective and agressive leaders providing problems for the mighty Celtic Woman!

After the death of Charlemagne we got peace with SB and changed civics

We made a trade with Cathy

And signed another DP with Isabella which worked out real nicely because

Now we are pumping out 4 promoted Curssaires from the capital real fast so we shredded Sury's stack while Isabella attacked his mainland territory.

Pacal broke away from Sury, we took peace with both but soon.

So we sent a modest stack to raze the nearest Mayan city

I prefer NOT to take anymore land, rather build up infrastructure and let our larger land get us a strong tech lead.

We took peace with Pacal and gifted Rostov back to Cathy as it keep revolting and we got her to friendly

We then shot off a string of trades to get us back in the tech race.
Before that, our techpath: Military Tradition/Printing Press/Replaceable Parts/Rifling.

Now

Which got us to

OK, we saved here with the tech options

OK, democracy which everyone has and won't trade (everyone's probably building the SoL) or cold hard STEEL!

Demographics are somewhat interesting.

Largest in land, production and food, yet only #3 in GNP and soldiers!

As far as land we are cutoff behind Russian and Egyptian lands from the males, of which Mansa (Pacal is a vassal) and Sury are the main targets. I say we mobilize a much stronger army with rifles/cavalry and eventually cannons and then take care of business.

 

[Der Graf]

OK, democracy which everyone has and won't trade (everyone's probably building the SoL) or cold hard STEEL!

Is that some kind of trick question or what ?
Cold, bloody steel is the way of the amazon !

Largest in land, production and food, yet only #3 in GNP and soldiers!

Bah, first where it really counts, I say. And you're not that far away from No. 1 in GNP. Bite them !

 

[Kev]

We start by some hosekeeping and a trade with our English Sister

Some of the typos are nonsensical, some are funny, some are random.

This is a classic.

 

[madscientist]

Final update for this RPC. I will not spoil anything but it is very long and will involve many entries. Please be patient.

 

[madscientist]

The Amazon Queen: PArt VII

As I said a VERY long segment, but fear not, pleanty of action!

Our techpath this segment went: Steel/Astronomy/Military Science/Communism/Biology/Assembly line

And let's take a look at teh diplomatic front

Sister Isabella shaking things up!

Soon we pop our last GP of the game

Which we used for

A little extra income from the Jewish holy city coffers!

We got a request from one of our Sisters that we cannot refuse

So we attack the Khmerians which we cannot get to because they are blocked off by Mayan lands.

Meanwhile we see Sitting Bull once again trying to establish a foothold on the continent which we repelled.

After razing the city twice I decided to keep it, simply to prevent it being settled again.

In the english lands we see Sister Isabella has done some damage to Sister Victoria

At this point I feel more confident in making this trade

And we revolt to emancipation.

Once our favorite Sister Isabella takes peace we can bribe her into another war.

Mansa is definitely the biggest tech threat and could use to be taken down a few notches. What this led to later was not quite what I expected, yet it was interesting and actually.......

Well, here we are

Moving our SOD towards the Filthy Mali and their Mayans vassals! Who said Boudic ahas no economical benefits, a bigtime empire takes care of that!.

First things first here, we decide to eliminate the Mayans while Isabella does her religious Zealot game on Mansa.


And very soon.

OK, Boudica is strong, what's another male to pummel into the dust! We declare war.

Victoria became a big tech donator to us, for a while

Finally our stack reaches a Mayan city

Which we kept. We then moved onto the capital

Which had a nice bonus

Sistene chapel. Sweet, means we do not have to worry ourselves about building a culture building first, just run at least one specialist for border pops!

Isabella took that last Mayan city leaving Pacal with one city off shore and one under severe Egyptian culture pressure. . Pacal eventually broke away from Mansa and we declared peace after capturing that city on the egyptian border. Mansa however

That is some serious land we need to capture!

OK, back to Pacal, after we captured his last continental city and got peace we

Why bother with it, Hatty would end up with it anyway!.


To Be Continued, and the fun has YET to start!

 

[madscientist]

The Amazon Queen: Part VII continued

So at this point, let's take a look at what this Khmerians Freak is all about.

4 continental cities with very little to stand up to Cavalry or cannons. We initiate a slow campaign with a few cannons and cavalry against those 4 cities, using 1 frigate for some bombardment.

So the bulk of our army heads into Mali lands. By the way, we got elected her Popemanship! Boudica was absolutely delighted although there was very little we could do with that.

As I said we alternated between taking Mali cities

And Khmerians cities

While Mansa may be a great techer, his military game just plain stinks. We stormed more cities

At this point things GOT very interesting, because

Mansa Vassals himself to Sister Victoria!!! So here we have two sisters in Victoria and Hatshepsut (yeah she hates us) who hate our guts and 2 who are friendly (Cathy and Issabella).

OK, the plan: Keep up the pressure on Sury and Mansa, we want them dead very soon and fight a standstill war agaist Victoria, for now!

Of course Sury is pretty easy

But onto Mansa

Yes, we continue to battle Mali, probably to the point of recklessness.

Meanwhile, Victoria does manage some offense

well, so what. we start assembling some counter offensives! Troops coming out of the capital with 4 free promotions! That's CR III/Barrage Cannons, Combat II/Flanking II cavalry, or Combat IV/Pinch rifles or grenaders! Let Victoria choke on those troops.

But Victoria was not finished there,

She's got something for those former Babylonian lands. If I was her I would have pushed everything I had against the capital but, Oh well! I am glad she didn't.

What of Sury?? Oh yeah

Back to more challenging matters

Sheesh!!! Well we are building a sizeable counter force and we did revolt to State Property.

But on the bright side, we succeded in kicking Sury off the continent

And took peace with the Freak.

Meanwhile we continued the assault on Mansa, never letting up regardless of what the English were up to.

The very last Mali city was in Spanish lands

Which we returned to Our best friend Isabella!

So here we have Saladin/Charlemagne/Hammurabi (yes Issabella got the last city)/Mansa are dead! Sury/Sitting Bull/Pacal have been kicked off the continent. The Ladies rule the land!!!!

But what to do about Victoria AND more importantly VICTORY!!!!!

To Be Continued....

 

[madscientist]

The Amazon Queen: Part VIII continued

So my choice here was whether to stay after Victoira or not. A simple evaluation of land determines that one of the Sisters needs to go down for a domination win. Well, nothing in the rules saying we HAVE to accept peace from a Sister and Victoira started this war (she started TWO against us). Time for Big Sis to put everyone in line.

We start by bribing Cathy into isolating herself more

Isabella has just killed off Pacal so she was open for this trade

Yeah, yeah, yeah bribing one sister to fight another. So what, and the BIG Sister does want to win!!! Besides, Victoria has it coming to her.

This caused Hatshepsut to declare war on US!!! Which in my book warrents this

Resulting in

Note, at this point Sury is a vassal of Isabella. well, let her have that little freak as a pet, it's no concern of ours. However as we prepare to start a major English war using the massively promoted eastern army, we still must consider that Sitting Bull and his 2 lonely off-coast cities must also die.

Isabella was a great source of techs

We also got 1 GG which we used for a medic III supermedic! So we holed up in one city near the former Babylonian lands, brought all the damaged units from the east there to heal, and added even more fresh troops.

Victoira managed to capture one more city

But that was all she had, we started operation "Reclaimation"

Kaboom

We also did some damage to Hatshepsut.

And one of her primary culture cities (yes whe was trying for a culture win) which we razed

Although we directed MOST of our efforts against the English, after retaking our lost cities we take Coventry

Which opens up the entire English lands to attack from the north.

Needless to say we tore her lands apart

we also did not forget Sitting Bull

The hardest part was keeping these Galleons away from Victoira's prowling ironclads.

By the way, we did eventually took peace with hatshepsut.

Another key trade with Isabella.

And to keep Cathy busy and out of our way

Serves you right Hatty, not respecting your Older Sister!

We did continue our invasion of Victoira's lands

Quickly disposed of the pathetic Native Americans

One male left, and he's vassaled to Isabella.

A quick review of the Victory conditions

To Be Continued

 

[madscientist]

The Amazon queen: Part VII continued

Isabella made peace with Victoria then reinitiated hostilities. Boudica on the other hand

Kept the pressure on.

we placed a veyr large army on the Khmerian border, just in case he drops the vassalage with isabella, which he did not do.

The very last English city on the continent

Victoira has one lone city off-shore. we still did not take peace though as the victory conditions show

VERY close!

And one turn later

AH, that Mighty Amazonian Domination win!!!!!!!!


A look at teh map

Please note the 2 session starts! Why this appears at the end of every RPC I play is beyond me.

The final Screenshot of our Mighty Amazon Sister!

Thatnks to all who followed the game. Recap to follow!

 

[madscientist]

So a little recap here

RPC Rules:

1) trade restrictions. Not so bad as 2 of the ladies we adjacent to us. The guys seam to got smallish empires except for Hammurabi which made them tech slow.

2) Destruction of all the males? You betcha, except for Suryavarman who is considered something else anyway!

3) Domination win? Got a little lucky there with Victoira and Hatty going declaring war on us late. No need for a rule violation for the win!

Why we won??

1) Early rush of Saladin claiming great commerce cities and 2 holy cities!
2) Maintaining a large army which forced the other AIs into attackign each other.
3) Giving in to every Sister's request was great for diplomacy if a little tough to take at times
4) Having arguably the games BEST war-monger!!! And for all you people blasting the Celtic UU, we used it almost all game, with CRIII/combat I/Guerilla III Gallics finishing off a few rifles in the late game assaults. Hey, Boudica has a thing for bare chested and tatooed male warriors!

Hope you all enjoyed the game. I will decide the next RPC in a few days!

 

[Matthew5117]

Uhhh... Sury's still alive. I thought you wanted revenge too...

Nonetheless, that had to be the longest update ever. So many segments too! Great job on another amusing read.

 

[madscientist]

Uhhh... Sury's still alive. I thought you wanted revenge too...

Nonetheless, that had to be the longest update ever. So many segments too! Great job on another amusing read.

Hey, revenge can come several ways! Leaving Sury a battered dog at Isabella's beck and call is enough for me!

 

[PimpyMicPimp]

Great read. Glad to see you completed it without having to violate the rules. You're creativity in making these things is awesome. I think I'll have to try some sort of RPC game for my next Civ game. Well done!

 

[IPEX-731BA5DD06]

Do you edit the maps in anyway, such as adding or deleting civ's I mean.

If you generate a map, then edit civ's in/out, that could start session 2.

Obviously, going into world builder will do it too.

Also, if you start the game, don't settle 1st city, but take screen shot, close, post game, then RELOAD GAME to start again, that's session 2.

Anyway, enough of that, great last post, warmongering at its best. Land is power, be that Economic/Military/voting. Nice one on the trading, I really need to work on mine. Seems like that would be an ideal training game for trading, as you need to accept requests from Sisters, it forces you to offload tech's IMMEDIATELY for what ever you can get.

Great game, you've really improved your game posting over time, and the role playing, you've taken it to a new level. Its just so much fun to read, and the few I've shadowed, have been as much fun to play.

 

[madscientist]

Also, if you start the game, don't settle 1st city, but take screen shot, close, post game, then RELOAD GAME to start again, that's session 2.

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I do not enter worldbuilder or edit the maps or leaders but this is likely why I am getting the session 2 message. Thanks!

 

[Der Graf]

But that was all she had, we started operation "Reclaimation"

'Reconquista' one might say, even that's not celtic.

I'm - impressed