Role Play Challenge, The Next Generation: Comrade Lenin's New Deal
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JTMacc99
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I think the noble scout should be heading in the direction of Kiev before spending too much time settling any more cities. Perhaps there will be some sort of more fertile land a little more north, not to mention, maybe finding some seriously scarce precious resources.
NonPrayinMantis
Warlord
One recommendation, comrade:
Put Rostov on the tundra tile 2S1E of the dotmapped location. That way it will get access to more land and less sea tiles.
NPM
Put Rostov on the tundra tile 2S1E of the dotmapped location. That way it will get access to more land and less sea tiles.
NPM
Do you really want a second city on the island with Moscow? That city is a GP farm, not a bureau capital, and if you move your capital, a second city on that island would cost you colonial expenses, if I recall correctly.
I shadowed and finished the game last night - won in about 1850 - great fun. I played according to the RPC rules, which made it a bit tougher (those poor red faces!), but there are things that make it a bit easier too. I did move my capital - would Comrade Lenin approve of moving the capital? Sometimes you do need to take the pragmatic approach.
I shadowed and finished the game last night - won in about 1850 - great fun. I played according to the RPC rules, which made it a bit tougher (those poor red faces!), but there are things that make it a bit easier too. I did move my capital - would Comrade Lenin approve of moving the capital? Sometimes you do need to take the pragmatic approach.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
I think Comrade Lenin would approve of moving the capital if it benefited the Soviet people!
Congrats on the victory! Just please place the info into spoilers!
I think Comrade Lenin would approve of moving the capital if it benefited the Soviet people!
Congrats on the victory! Just please place the info into spoilers!
I won't post any of the details of the game until you're done - I'll leave all of that to you, but man, i am really anxious to see how you play this one out. It was one of the most enjoyable non-keshik games I've played.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Well, I was deciding when I get home tonight whther to play the next segment of continue my off-line Earth Map CHinese War-Fest (Man, NEal has gotten me hooked on Earth maps now). I think you helped me decide, and I am damned curious about the NE land as well as if I am isolated.
SO I think Comrade Lenin it is!
Except for the mongol ones, I've never shadowed any of the RPC games before, so I'm not used to playing with all those rules in place - I think that was part of why it was so enjoyable for me, having to really think to overcome the restrictions placed by the RPC rules.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Fun but Crazy!
I dare you to Shadow the Sury game
Speaking of which, I see a similar type Sury game on the Horizon!
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
Comrade Lenin: A Pragmatic Choice
Welcome back my Comrades. A very good round for the Soviet people, but alas we have a difficult choice at the end.
But first, let's see what is going on
To start, our techpath: Mysticism/writing/Pottery/Math/Currency (most of it)
And we decide to build a lighthouse in Moscow, followed by
A very strong production capital here! Let's hope it is enough to build the Great Lighthouse.
And soon we find we are not isolated
Ah, a religious fanatic, from Arabia no less. I am sure this Isabella will be abusing the Madrassa UB quite a bit.
And where is this lovely if deluded Lady.
Far enough away, yet close enough. We decide to reprioritize city settling to claim as much land as possible.
Because,
Pragmatism my friends, Pragamatism.
After Great Lighthouse moscow is dedicated to building archer/settler/archer/settler etc... You get picture!
Navrogod we settler VERY close to the Zealot.
Which caused
Ah, this Judaist faith has spread to Navrogod. We build Monument anyway as we could use the extra culture and to provide love and adoration for Chairman Lenin!
We next settle Kiev
A difficult city to settler as we cannot claim all three seafood resources. Maybe not the best but we do best we can.
And now we get a our big Pragmatic decision.
Ah, the capitalist Erico Dandalo! What my friends do we do with this ma? Do we send him on a trade mission to The Zealot Isabella as a Pragamatic decision? DO we settle him and turn him into a servent of the Soviet state? Or do we allow him to start a Golden Age? We can also hold him and Bulb Metal Casting (after Currency) and begin Colossus wonder!
Many decision, but which is best for Soviet Union?
Looking at Map there are 2 locations for new cities which settlers are traveling to.
So we have a few more cities to settle and explore eastern islands for additional resoruces (happy resources!). Isabella the Arab has much land to our north and has at least elephants. Maybe we let religious Lady found a few shrines before we attack, yes!
Welcome back my Comrades. A very good round for the Soviet people, but alas we have a difficult choice at the end.
But first, let's see what is going on
To start, our techpath: Mysticism/writing/Pottery/Math/Currency (most of it)
And we decide to build a lighthouse in Moscow, followed by
A very strong production capital here! Let's hope it is enough to build the Great Lighthouse.
And soon we find we are not isolated
Ah, a religious fanatic, from Arabia no less. I am sure this Isabella will be abusing the Madrassa UB quite a bit.
And where is this lovely if deluded Lady.
Far enough away, yet close enough. We decide to reprioritize city settling to claim as much land as possible.
Because,
Pragmatism my friends, Pragamatism.
After Great Lighthouse moscow is dedicated to building archer/settler/archer/settler etc... You get picture!
Navrogod we settler VERY close to the Zealot.
Which caused
Ah, this Judaist faith has spread to Navrogod. We build Monument anyway as we could use the extra culture and to provide love and adoration for Chairman Lenin!
We next settle Kiev
A difficult city to settler as we cannot claim all three seafood resources. Maybe not the best but we do best we can.
And now we get a our big Pragmatic decision.
Ah, the capitalist Erico Dandalo! What my friends do we do with this ma? Do we send him on a trade mission to The Zealot Isabella as a Pragamatic decision? DO we settle him and turn him into a servent of the Soviet state? Or do we allow him to start a Golden Age? We can also hold him and Bulb Metal Casting (after Currency) and begin Colossus wonder!
Many decision, but which is best for Soviet Union?
Looking at Map there are 2 locations for new cities which settlers are traveling to.
So we have a few more cities to settle and explore eastern islands for additional resoruces (happy resources!). Isabella the Arab has much land to our north and has at least elephants. Maybe we let religious Lady found a few shrines before we attack, yes!
dalamb
Deity
Set the capitalist merchant pig to assisting the great Soviet scientists research a useful technology -- bulb Metal Casting!
I like the MC bulb for Colossus, but settling him as a servant to the Russian people actually seems in line with what Lenin might want - make him work for the rest of eternity for the good of the people.
It's always interesting to see other people's city placements in a game. Did you think about settling Navrograd 2E on the hill? It would have the clam and wheat and be more protected in case nice Arabian lady decides to not be so nice. Currency is a big tech with GLH for sure.
It's always interesting to see other people's city placements in a game. Did you think about settling Navrograd 2E on the hill? It would have the clam and wheat and be more protected in case nice Arabian lady decides to not be so nice. Currency is a big tech with GLH for sure.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
I considered 1E to be safe as you suggested. I basically wanted to block her off before a border pop. Still in 3.19 she may settle behind Navrogod, but I doubt it. She has alot more non-combative land to settle!
NonPrayinMantis
Warlord
Colonial expenses with two cities are not too bad and there is much land to claim still on Moscovite Island.
The GM should be used for a metal casting bulb. Convert all of that filthy capitalist gold into useful Soviet science!
A golden age would be good, too, but wait for a while until you have more cities and more population.
NPM
Pohjalainen
Chieftain
I think Comrade Lenin should sent GM to Spain for trade mission which would bring gold for research and provide important military information considering city locations, resources and troops.
Of course because Comrade Lenin is primus inter pares the final decision is upon him.
Of course because Comrade Lenin is primus inter pares the final decision is upon him.
Fetch
When in doubt, reboot.
Ways to spin it:
Trade mission = 'super-covert espionage mission for economic benefit'
Golden age = 'kill him and all will rejoice at the death of the capitalist'
bulb = 'exploit the capitalist for his knowledge, then kill him'
settle = 'send him to the gulag to labor camps'
you're covered any way you go.
Trade mission = 'super-covert espionage mission for economic benefit'
Golden age = 'kill him and all will rejoice at the death of the capitalist'
bulb = 'exploit the capitalist for his knowledge, then kill him'
settle = 'send him to the gulag to labor camps'
you're covered any way you go.
JTMacc99
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I agree. Either one of these works for me. I'm of the belief that Lenin was probably a big fan of putting his greatest citizens to work for the state, regardless of what they were great at.
If you settle, don't forget the +1 Food with the +6 gold, so a food poor city might be a good spot for him. It's not like you need to consider putting him in a city that will eventually have a bank and Wall Street, and I'll assume that many of your cities will have markets, simply to help out with the happy problems. Just plunk him down and let him generate some cash for the government.
I think if there was a resource or two on the other side of Moscow's island, I'd agree that settling another city makes sense, but with nothing else there but a few hills, seems like it's not worth settling just to do it - I'd rather get some more of the land on the other islands, which have more resources. A second city on Moscow's island will grow very slowly. It'd be a useful city probably sometime after 1000 AD, but doesn't seem like a priority, especially if he's able to find any other happiness resources to claim.
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