ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Roster:
Greyfox (questioning our ability to win
negyvenketto (not on deck)
Ruff (up)
·Imhotep·
Pholkhero
Greyfox (questioning our ability to win
negyvenketto (not on deck)
Ruff (up)
·Imhotep·
Pholkhero
Ruff06 - Testing / Illustrating BUG!
- Thread starter ruff_hi
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pholkhero
Deviant Mind
i actually went back in and activated that Cav to call attention to sally's stack there.
also, the automated workers 'tweren't me ~ i stacked any active ones all up in some southern city as I couldn't find much for them to do.
also, the automated workers 'tweren't me ~ i stacked any active ones all up in some southern city as I couldn't find much for them to do.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
** this is not a hand off **
bastard game cheats! But more on that later. Here is our current situation ... Saladin just declared war, so did his vassal and landed a large stack of cav on our border (see pic). The quickest way to end this war is to take a few of his cities - that should get him to the peace table. I'm thinking I take the army in Spain, and run it NE, then W into his rear. Thoughts, suggestions?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/64034/Ruff06_X-Tokugawa_AD-1870.CivBeyondSwordSave
** this is not a hand off **
bastard game cheats! But more on that later. Here is our current situation ... Saladin just declared war, so did his vassal and landed a large stack of cav on our border (see pic). The quickest way to end this war is to take a few of his cities - that should get him to the peace table. I'm thinking I take the army in Spain, and run it NE, then W into his rear. Thoughts, suggestions?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/64034/Ruff06_X-Tokugawa_AD-1870.CivBeyondSwordSave
Spoiler log :
** this is not a hand off **
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
We need to meet his stack w/plenty of rifles and canon if we can. the ai uses cavalry fairly well to annihilate seige weapons in a stack, so we should take it to them. after some softening, they should fall quickly.
but the plan to head into his rear sounds good to me ~ a plan Rex would approve of (heading into the rear, get it?)
but the plan to head into his rear sounds good to me ~ a plan Rex would approve of (heading into the rear, get it?)
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
finished my turn set ... looking much better ... will report tomorrow sometime
Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas everyone
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
I said earlier that this game cheats. What did I mean by that ... well, I was playing a BtS game the other day and was preparing to go to war against some AI. Usually, I demand the AIs gold and then declare war. I made my demand and then ... nothing ... I couldn't declare war because we had just signed a peace deal lasting 10 turns. Rats ... those Firaxis boys had pulled a fast one on me. That was a private game so I just reloaded, didn't make the demand and invaded. Why am I telling you this? Well, what is good for the goose is good for the gander ...
... I traded rice to Saladin for 5 gold per turn. He agreed and thus signed a 10 turn peace deal ... sweet. I can get stuck into Isabella. I also traded Steam Power to Bismark for Communism and swapped our civics (Slavery to Caste System, Decentrialized (!) to Free Market and Org Rel to Free religion).
The Spanish Rain of Terror continued
I also settled another city away from Saladin ...
... and got a really good event ...
... plus 3 population for 35 gold ... errr, ok! And that was when all hell broke lose and Saladin worked out a way to outsmart the Firaxis boys. I missed this in the game but saw in in the log I posted earlier ...
Isabella becomes a Vassal State of Saladin
... which lead to ...
Saladin(Arabia) declares war on Ruff06 [X-Tokugawa](Japan)
Kublai Khan(Mongolia) declares war on Ruff06 [X-Tokugawa](Japan)
I was knocking on the door of Madrid at the time and Isabella was obviously not feeling very well. This is where I paused, posted the above comments and took a break from the game. The balance of this entry covers two fronts ...
1) The war at home
I liked Pholk's comments and send some cannons to Toyko (Saladin's target). I also sent a huge stack of riflemen and some infantry. I sold a tech or two for some extra cash and upgraded some riflemen. Saladin and his stack of units pillaged the mine and road, moved to the next hill and pillaged that mine and road. He then moved down to the flat and proceeded to take down our defenses with cats and trebs. I had got a Great General (from our Spain adventure - see below) and thinking that our super medic was in Spain, wasn't sure if we wanted another super medic for the home front.
I rammed 6 cannons into the stack (lost them all) and then attacked with my riflemen. I attacked 12 times with odds of about 75% and won them all ... I love this game. Take a look at this before and after F5 picture ...
We are about to get another Great General so I merged our existing GG into our Military Pump (TM) city.
2) The war in Spain
Meanwhile, in Spain, I kept pushing our units towards Madrid and Razed Madrid. I then sent these units into Sitting Bulls lands (the red path below) and kept them going North to attack Saladin in his weak flank.
I would suggest T1 is the first target and T2 is the second. It would be an idea to move our units out of airship range until the cannons get there. Did I mention that Saladin has airships ... he does and is bombing us. We also lost a knight to one of his cavalry units.
Other things of Interest:
Closing Pics
The Back Door
Other Ex-Spain units heading North
What is left of Saladin's Stack
Power Graph - note, this is at the end of the previous turn ... power rank off score board shows 1.0 (we are equal to Saladin). We started my turn set at 0.8 (weaker) and got down to 0.7.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/64034/Ruff06_X-Tokugawa_AD-1880.CivBeyondSwordSave
... I traded rice to Saladin for 5 gold per turn. He agreed and thus signed a 10 turn peace deal ... sweet. I can get stuck into Isabella. I also traded Steam Power to Bismark for Communism and swapped our civics (Slavery to Caste System, Decentrialized (!) to Free Market and Org Rel to Free religion).
The Spanish Rain of Terror continued
I also settled another city away from Saladin ...
... and got a really good event ...
... plus 3 population for 35 gold ... errr, ok! And that was when all hell broke lose and Saladin worked out a way to outsmart the Firaxis boys. I missed this in the game but saw in in the log I posted earlier ...
Isabella becomes a Vassal State of Saladin
... which lead to ...
Saladin(Arabia) declares war on Ruff06 [X-Tokugawa](Japan)
Kublai Khan(Mongolia) declares war on Ruff06 [X-Tokugawa](Japan)
I was knocking on the door of Madrid at the time and Isabella was obviously not feeling very well. This is where I paused, posted the above comments and took a break from the game. The balance of this entry covers two fronts ...
1) The war at home
I liked Pholk's comments and send some cannons to Toyko (Saladin's target). I also sent a huge stack of riflemen and some infantry. I sold a tech or two for some extra cash and upgraded some riflemen. Saladin and his stack of units pillaged the mine and road, moved to the next hill and pillaged that mine and road. He then moved down to the flat and proceeded to take down our defenses with cats and trebs. I had got a Great General (from our Spain adventure - see below) and thinking that our super medic was in Spain, wasn't sure if we wanted another super medic for the home front.
I rammed 6 cannons into the stack (lost them all) and then attacked with my riflemen. I attacked 12 times with odds of about 75% and won them all ... I love this game. Take a look at this before and after F5 picture ...
We are about to get another Great General so I merged our existing GG into our Military Pump (TM) city.
2) The war in Spain
Meanwhile, in Spain, I kept pushing our units towards Madrid and Razed Madrid. I then sent these units into Sitting Bulls lands (the red path below) and kept them going North to attack Saladin in his weak flank.
I would suggest T1 is the first target and T2 is the second. It would be an idea to move our units out of airship range until the cannons get there. Did I mention that Saladin has airships ... he does and is bombing us. We also lost a knight to one of his cavalry units.
Spoiler log :
Other things of Interest:
- we got a great priest ... anyone got any suggestions ... how about a golden age?
- rushed the pentagon with our GE - our Military Pump (TM) city now puts our units with 13 XPs
- got back after going to a Christmas Eve party to write up my report ... found that I hadn't finished my turn ... finished it and got another GG!
- railroads is in - workers now have something to do ... just watch them when you get close to the front
Closing Pics
The Back Door
Other Ex-Spain units heading North
What is left of Saladin's Stack
Power Graph - note, this is at the end of the previous turn ... power rank off score board shows 1.0 (we are equal to Saladin). We started my turn set at 0.8 (weaker) and got down to 0.7.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/64034/Ruff06_X-Tokugawa_AD-1880.CivBeyondSwordSave
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Geez, so there is a workaround over the trading peace treaty. This is the second time the vassal systems caused an unexpected war. I am glad we are dealing with it relatively well.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Roster:
Greyfox
negyvenketto
Ruff
·Imhotep· (up)
Pholkhero
Oh - forgot to mention, our super medic isn't with the Back Door troops - I thought he was. He is currently in Toyko helping repulse Saladin
Greyfox
negyvenketto
Ruff
·Imhotep· (up)
Pholkhero
Oh - forgot to mention, our super medic isn't with the Back Door troops - I thought he was. He is currently in Toyko helping repulse Saladin
dawn
Redophile
Yeah, that little "feature" about having a peace treaty got me once after demanding all of their money. 
I loved that method of attack - demand all the money and then swing into war. Hadn't had the AI vassel-up before though.
I loved that method of attack - demand all the money and then swing into war. Hadn't had the AI vassel-up before though.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
nice turns! 
love the idea of slipping those troops in from Bull's lands!! that'll be a nice surprise for him.
as much as it'll slow us down gamewise, i think some form of military win is our only option. Go after the big guys one at a time and vassalize them in turn. we win.
love the idea of slipping those troops in from Bull's lands!! that'll be a nice surprise for him.as much as it'll slow us down gamewise, i think some form of military win is our only option. Go after the big guys one at a time and vassalize them in turn. we win.
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
I see it. Will try to sneak in the turns tomorrow for some good ol'fashioned smashy-smashy 
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ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
i see lots of opinions on what to do with the Great Priest ... I guess the consensus at the moment is a golden age.
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
Played, report follows soonish. 
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
Well, we sure had some action during my ten:
Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 50
Units victorious while defending : 1
Units defeated while attacking : 14
Units defeated while defending : 8
We spawned 3 GG during these turns (one we apparently had from an ealier set, one was the Fascism freebie, and one we got with those battles). I built a Military Academy at Kyoto and settled one there, the other was settled at Satsuma.
As we were at war with Saladin and his vassals I decided to bring some relief to our northern front. Biz had 7 turns of research left on Assembly Line, and he was willing to join our war if we gave the tech to him. A cheap prize ! Can you say two front war ?
We also had a GP hanging around. i decided to build the shrine rather than triggering a golden age. +22 gpt before modifiers isn't that bad, and it will further increase with Wall Street.
This was the Sally stack I inherited.
This is the situation I'll hand over.
We got a nice event too.
Our north western army razed Apache. The stack is short of cannons though.
We founded another city.
Our north western army is currently healing at Spiro.
The next player is in for some real fun. Here are some more toys.
Note that Satsuma will churn out 19XP units at rapid pace once it has finished West Point in a couple of turns. We should settle all further GGs at Kyoto where I have currently started Ironworks. Shale Plants are available now, but our cities have health issues. After Astronomy we should make a detour to Medicine. Mining Inc. was founded by Sitting Bull. Other than that: Have fun !
Imhotep
Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking : 50
Units victorious while defending : 1
Units defeated while attacking : 14
Units defeated while defending : 8
We spawned 3 GG during these turns (one we apparently had from an ealier set, one was the Fascism freebie, and one we got with those battles). I built a Military Academy at Kyoto and settled one there, the other was settled at Satsuma.
As we were at war with Saladin and his vassals I decided to bring some relief to our northern front. Biz had 7 turns of research left on Assembly Line, and he was willing to join our war if we gave the tech to him. A cheap prize ! Can you say two front war ?
We also had a GP hanging around. i decided to build the shrine rather than triggering a golden age. +22 gpt before modifiers isn't that bad, and it will further increase with Wall Street.
This was the Sally stack I inherited.
This is the situation I'll hand over.
We got a nice event too.
Our north western army razed Apache. The stack is short of cannons though.
We founded another city.
Our north western army is currently healing at Spiro.
The next player is in for some real fun. Here are some more toys.
Note that Satsuma will churn out 19XP units at rapid pace once it has finished West Point in a couple of turns. We should settle all further GGs at Kyoto where I have currently started Ironworks. Shale Plants are available now, but our cities have health issues. After Astronomy we should make a detour to Medicine. Mining Inc. was founded by Sitting Bull. Other than that: Have fun !
Imhotep
Spoiler The Log :
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
good turns ~ I think that makes me up now. I'll continue the smashy-smashy, and will be focusing on winning via domination (as the theme of the SG seems to be "if they don't say no, they must mean yes!")
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Roster:
Greyfox
negyvenketto
Ruff
·Imhotep·
Pholkhero (up)
Excellent turn set. Bit surprised that we couldn't return Sitting Bull's city. I think a themed victory is coming together ... more on that later.
Greyfox
negyvenketto
Ruff
·Imhotep·
Pholkhero (up)
Excellent turn set. Bit surprised that we couldn't return Sitting Bull's city. I think a themed victory is coming together ... more on that later.
negyvenketto
Scientist
I thought we just building 2 rings of cities that makes domination out of question or you mean via vassalization? Maybe conquest comes easier.
Founding Suo means war with Washington
but first just finish Saladin I suppose.
Founding Suo means war with Washington
but first just finish Saladin I suppose.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
I think domination is a no go (unless we use the vassalisation route). I was more thinking of the theme ... "these heathen leaders have not followed our perfect circle example to produce a civilization in harmony with its surrounds, thus they must die ... kill, kill them all!"
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
@ruff:
Apache was a barb city in its origin, so no giving back. If we want a Conquest Victory, we should head for Industrialism ASAP. Infantry and Cannons won't do the trick for very much longer as several AI already have Assembly Line.
Apache was a barb city in its origin, so no giving back. If we want a Conquest Victory, we should head for Industrialism ASAP. Infantry and Cannons won't do the trick for very much longer as several AI already have Assembly Line.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
let's just just try and kill 'em all and take vassals if they offer it. if not, just wipe them out. Tanks will surely help our good cause; will beeline for them now. Playing tonight.
