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Discussion in 'Civ4 -ISDG 2012' started by Lord Parkin, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    I mean the order in which they are set when setting the game.
     
  2. Beto_civfr

    Beto_civfr Chieftain

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    You can send the screenshot to beto_civfr@yahoo.fr
    :worship:
     
  3. plako

    plako Emperor

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    Here they're

    1 - Team Realms Beyond
    2 - Team WePlayCiv
    3 - Team Spanish Apolyton
    4 - Team Apolyton
    5 - Team Civforum.de
    6 - Team Civfr
    7 - Team CivPlayers
    8 - Team Civfanatics
    9 - Team UniversCivilization
     
  4. plako

    plako Emperor

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    Map sent to Caledorn and screenshot to Beto.
     
  5. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Ah, how they were decided?
     
  6. Caledorn

    Caledorn Emperor

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    Random number generator I believe r_rolo said in an earlier post. :)

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
     
  7. Caledorn

    Caledorn Emperor

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    Thank you. I have received it, and will prepare the PB today. Yay! :D

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  8. plako

    plako Emperor

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    I had numbered starting positions and gave r_rolo1 this list:
    0. Team WePlayCiv
    1. Team Civforum.de
    2. Team Apolyton
    3. Team Spanish Apolyton
    4. Team Civfanatics
    5. Team CivPlayers
    6. Team Realms Beyond
    7. Team UniversCivilization
    8. Team Civfr

    r_rolo generated the order using random.org and got this for me
    0 - Team Realms Beyond
    1 - Team WePlayCiv
    2 - Team Spanish Apolyton
    3 - Team Apolyton
    4 - Team Civforum.de
    5 - Team Civfr
    6 - Team CivPlayers
    7 - Team Civfanatics
    8 - Team UniversCivilization


    Please note that civ starts numbering from 0 so that was used above.
     
  9. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Great! Thanks a lot for all your noble and self-denial efforts.
     
  10. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Now when we start?
     
  11. Caledorn

    Caledorn Emperor

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    I'm working on setting things up right now (which will stop the two currently running games as I need to apply some updates and stuff to the server).
     
  12. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    Before we start the game, I want to raise what I think is serious issue.

    It is regarding the so-called "rule 3d" which was proposed in the last two days by only one player and was disputed by representatives of 3 other teams and it still went in the final rule set layout posted by r_rolo1. Now is the time before it is posted in the "Final rule set" thread.


    What this "rule 3d" says is:

    could possibly lead to real mess. In fact it says that every 3 turns anyone can ask to be allowed to double- move his opponent while in war. I, mzprox (co-captain of Team Apolyton) and a member of Team RB too expressed disagreement with this silently added rule in the last 2 days.

    Can I humbly ask you all and most the admin to rethink your position about this specific rule 3d and remove it completely before the rules are posted in the "Final rule-set" section, as it was never voted, nor agreed on by anyone else besides Ruff Hi. We left to the admin to compile the final layout of the rules who will make it to the "Official rule set" and which wont, but I think it was only overlooking on r_rolo's side and just using the Ruff's version where he included this unfair to my opinion rule, which was disputed by all who gave opinion and supported by no one.

    Of course we can rely on the admin to just refuse such requests later in the game when they are made, but it will be way more fair and simple this clause to be just removed before it becomes official rule.

    Thanks for all your efforts and looking for a great game.
     
  13. ruff_hi

    ruff_hi Live 4ever! Or die trying

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    I agree - rule 3d is an issue as currently stands. Personally, I think we should delete it and rely on 03e to address the possible unfairness of having a one-way rule.
    Re these parts of your post …
    Just to be clear, I didn’t propose it, nor silently add it, nor do I agree with it as it currently stands. My position has been (and remains) that it could be unfair to have a one-way rule (ie a rule allowing teams to move back but not forward in the order). I think I acknowledged the double move issue and I think a version of the rule included some text around that was posted at some stage.
     
  14. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Should I delete 3d from the official ruleset or no?
     
  15. talonschild

    talonschild Drive-By NESer

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    Please.
     
  16. Caledorn

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    Quoting myself. That's novel.

    As there is a possible thunderstorm incoming I am leaving the setup of the game until tomorrow morning, Central European DS Time zone.
     
  17. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    I will be sure to delete it before the game starts as long as there are no objections (or r_rolo1 could do it).
     
  18. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Moderator Action: Given the amount of disagreement about rule 3d, I'm ok in deleting it
     
  19. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    OK I made a note that it is deleted and dated the note, without reordering the rules. So rule 3e is still 3e, and 3d just says "Deleted"
     
  20. ruff_hi

    ruff_hi Live 4ever! Or die trying

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