Saturn Embassy

For anyone who wants a quick run down of LP's chat yesterday with myself and then Cav it was kinda like this:

Blue = Saturn
Orange = Sancta
Green = Cav
Ohh look the colours match too!
Spoiler :
 
IamJohn said:
Yep, I'm quite happy to have them as allies team wise :)

And cav doesn't have all important techs, not fued at least :D
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:agree: :dance: :band:

Could not have said it better! :goodjob:

They are still lacking MC also.....which means we are still doing more with less!!!!
 
Hi mate,

Not sure if you''ve been informed, but Kaz used a combat1/medic1 chariot (their only unit we can see) to kill our woody3 axe (at 1.8 strength), leaving their chariot at 3.5 strength.

We have 2 axes (4.3, combat 1 and 4.5 combat 1) that can attack, the latter over a river.

Crunch time...

Krill SANCTA
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Sent this to LP; I didn't know if he had been informed, and I didn't want to leave him in the dark.
 
Spoiler :
Namaste Saturn,

Just informing you of another dead Kaz chariot with no extra losses on our side.

Current tally is 1 dead SANCTA axe, for 2 Kaz chariots.

The delay on playing the save is coming from a debate about what to build in our capital; it was due to start the GLH this turn (which is why we just finish Masonry - Memphus has sent it along with the save if you want it). We are currently unsure if we need any more military than we have already commited (or plan to commit) in the near future.

One question: We have an archer going down to the barb city. We plan to upgrade it asap, or at least keep the gold needed to upgrade it, so we won't be able to send gold to you until we've saved it up. Our estimate is that it would take 3-4 turns (so t99-t102) to save the gold.

You said in chat that you can run max science and lose only 13 gpt or there abouts. Would it be possible for you to front us 1 turns worth of cash (around 70 gold as an estimate) and then we pay off the debt to you asap? We would be making 30gpt or there abouts, so we figure we'd have paid back the cash to you by t105 with the extra cash we'd be giving to you each turn. The excess gold we'd be saving afterwards (ie that gold which isn't need for you to run at 100% science) could then be saved to upgrade more longbows for either of us, or for us to deficit research with once we get a few extra libs up etc and start working coastal tiles.

Also, we'd like to request Hed Rule some time in the next two turns, so we can get Fued asap as well for some longbow builds.

SANCTA


Proposed message to Saturn. Thoughts?
 
Looks pretty good to me. Question though- do we need to mention why we're holding up the turn? Right now it really seems like it's just to let them know they can have masonry if they want it.
 
Trust begets trust.

I don't see anything really wrong with telling them. Sure they could backstab us and tell Cav who speed up their construction of GLH...if they are building it...but I'd be a lot more bothered about them stiffing us on Fuedalism and trading it to Kaz.

Telling them shows more trust from ourside, but it also lays the ground work for us asking about the gold loan, we will have the gold ourselves, but a little later, and getting it earlier is important. Also, the way it would work is detailed below.

Sure they could ask WTF are we smoking, building 2 wonders...then we state that we do have a 26 hpt city building units for the war effort (settlers count!) and we already have 6 units down there, not counting workers or settlers.

Spoiler :
t98 they research fued, 1 turn to go
t98 we finish currency with m,inimal overflow

t99 they finish fued
t99 we save gold

t100 they save gold, end turn, gift to us
t100 we upgrade teh archer (if possible depends on Angle growing) and save gold, end turn, forward gold to Saturn

t101 Saturn go max research using our gold from t100 to pay for it
 
Current delay on playing the save is comingfrom a debate about what to build in our capital; it was due to start teh GLH this turn (which is why we just finish Masonry - if you want it, just ask! We'll send it along). Currently unsure if we need any more military than we have already commited (or plan to commit) in the near future.

change this to say memphus has sent it with this turn.
 
Well, we have the strongest military in the game and we just took 2 chariots for 1 axe, so our military is even stronger.

I have no problem letting them know what's up.
 
Spoiler :
Namaste Saturn,

Just informing you of another dead Kaz chariot with no extra losses on our side.

Current tally is 1 dead SANCTA axe, for 2 Kaz chariots.

The delay on playing the save is coming from a debate about what to build in our capital; it was due to start the GLH this turn (which is why we just finish Masonry - Memphus has sent it along with the save if you want it). We are currently unsure if we need any more military than we have already commited (or plan to commit) in the near future.

One question: We have an archer going down to the barb city. We plan to upgrade it asap, or at least keep the gold needed to upgrade it, so we won't be able to send gold to you until we've saved it up. Our estimate is that it would take 3-4 turns (so t99-t102) to save the gold.

You said in chat that you can run max science and lose only 13 gpt or there abouts. Would it be possible for you to front us 1 turns worth of cash (around 70 gold as an estimate) and then we pay off the debt to you asap? We would be making 30gpt or there abouts, so we figure we'd have paid back the cash to you by t105 with the extra cash we'd be giving to you each turn. The excess gold we'd be saving afterwards (ie that gold which isn't need for you to run at 100% science) could then be saved to upgrade more longbows for either of us, or for us to deficit research with once we get a few extra libs up etc and start working coastal tiles.

Also, we'd like to request Hed Rule some time in the next two turns, so we can get Fued asap as well for some longbow builds.

SANCTA
Blood flowing freely
Less horses to till the fields
Many decisions


SENT!:salute:
 
Spoiler :
Namaste Saturn,

Our chariot Gelderlander has found your lands, and would like to enter your city of Rhea to heal quickly. Would you allow us this boon?

SANCTA


Proposed message to Saturn. Should be sent sometime today IMO, could do with a little filler though.
 
Krill said:
Spoiler :
Namaste Saturn,

Our chariot Gelderlander has found your lands, and would like to enter your city of Rhea to heal quickly. Would you allow us this boon?

SANCTA


Proposed message to Saturn. Should be sent sometime today IMO, could do with a little filler though.
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How about:

Namaste Saturn,

Our chariot Gelderlander has found your lands, bearing the promised trade items of wheat and fish (as well as ways to keep the fish from smelling too much on the trip). We sustained damage from various barbarians in the wilderness (the black flagged ones, not the white devils the Ninja's war with to the south) and request the boon of lodging to heal our weary bones (to say nothing of fixing the suspension in the chariots - boy our butts hurt)

May we enter the city of Rhea and spend a few nights in your fine hostels?

SANCTA[/spoiler]
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Just so long as we say hostels/stables and nothing about the brothels...I like it. Might add something in about thank you for the silver, it has let us dedicate more troops to the war (the chariot from CK is travelling to the front as it is no longer needed as garrison).
 
All good by me!
 
Spoiler :
Namaste Saturn,

Our chariot Gelderlander has found your lands, bearing the promised trade items of wheat and fish (as well as ways to keep the fish from smelling too much on the trip). He is also carrying this letter of thanks for the silver, it has let us dedicate more troops to the war and keep our larger cities happy.

Gelderlander sustained damage from various barbarians in the wilderness (the black flagged ones, not the white devils the Ninja's war with to the south) and request a boon of lodging to heal our weary bones (to say nothing of fixing the suspension in the chariots - boy our butts hurt).

May we enter the city of Rhea and spend a few nights in your fine hostels?

SANCTA


Version 0.015b. Thanks to AT for most of the text.

SENT! :salute:
 
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