"Sebiche's Corrections Mod" IDEA

[Sebiche]

Well, its no myth...

CIV 4 AND WARLORDS SURE DO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MISTAKES

but I'm not talking about actual programing mistakes (noooo, those are left for the SDK societies and Python people) I'm talking UNITS and I'm talking CIVS.

For instance,
ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS NOT GREEK
He was actually a Macedonian, a COMPLETELY SEPARATE KINGDOM FROM THOSE OF GREECE.

IN FACT, he was so little of a greek, the greeks called him and his people BARBARIANS (**note, barbarian meaning an uncivilized foreigner, considering how the greeks saw all foreigners as uncivilized. Never will you hear a greek call another greek a barbarian)

His dad tried his hardest to make him a greek, since he himself wanted to be like own. He shaped his kingdom to the greek similarity. still, NO DICE.

But I'm not here to lecture you, no, then i could have dropped the "MOD" part of the title. this is a mod i want to make to fix all these tiny mistakes. some include the creation of empires, others the creation and fixing of units. in the end i want the game to last from 7000 BC - 3000 AD, each turn being 1 year. THATS 10,000 TURNS!!! ITS THE PERFECT CRIME!! (this will include a FUTURE era) (***I know that techniquely there already is one, but this is MY ONE)

So, here are them little details I'd like to add (the one's I've worked out so far). Also, all Civ's now have 2 Unique units and alteast 2 leaders.

THIS IS THE WORK FOR SEBICHE'SETERNITY MOD

NEW EMPIRES

Spoiler :

Macedonian Empire
-Unique Unit: Macedonian Phalanx (Spearman), Macedonian Hetairoi (Cataphract)
-Unique Building: Combat Institute (Replaces Barracks)
-Leaders: Alexander the Great (Aggressive, Philosophical) Phillip V (Expansive, Aggrressive)
-Starting Techs: Hunting, Agriculture

Mayan Empire
-Unique Unit: Sun Archers (Composite Bowman), Obsidian Axmen (Axman)
-Unique Building: Records Office (Courthouse)
-Leaders: Pakal (Charismatic, Industrial), Great Sun (Expansive, Finnancial)
-Starting Techs: Agriculture, Mining

Hun Empire
-Unique Unit: Hun Cavalry (Horse Archer), Torch Cavalry (Cataphract)
-Unique Building: Ration Storages (Granary)
-Leaders: Atila the Hun (Aggressive, Expansive) Bleda the Hun (Finnancial, Industrial)

Uruguayan Empire (CALL ME WHAT YOU WILL, BUT WE WERE GREAT)
-Unique Unit: Fusileros Navales (Marines), T-55 (Tank)
-Unique Building: Pecebre (Granary)
-Leaders: Artigas (Organized, Finnancial) General Torres (Industrial, Financial)

CHANGES IN ALREADY EXISTING CIV'S

Spoiler :

Amercan Empire
-Unique Unit: Humvee (Assault Vehicle) ANY SUGGESTIONS?? (no navy seals please)
-Unique Building: Townhall (Theatre)

Arabian Empire
-Unique Unit: Camel Archer (Heavy Horse Archer) Camel Knight (Knight) -Leaders: Yusuf (Aggressive, Spiritual)

Aztec Empire
-Unique Units: Jaguar Warrior (Swordsman), Eagle Warrior (Pikeman)

German Empire
-Unique Unit: Teutonic Knight (Knight), Panzer (Tank)
-Leaders: Barbarossa (Expansive, Spiritual) Adolf Hitler*** (Aggressive, Industrious)

English Empire
-Unique Units: Yeomanry (Longbowman), Crusader (Tank)

Persian Empire
-Leaders: Xerxes (Expansive, Philosophical)
-Unique Units: Immortal (Spearman), Persian Cavalry (Cataphract)

Carthaginian Empire
-Leaders: Hamilcar (Protective, Finnancial)
-Unique Units: Numidian Cavalry (Cataphract), Carthaginian War Elephant (War Elephant)

Russian Empire
-Unique Units: Cossack (Hussar), T80 Tank (Modern Armor)

Spanish Empire
-Leaders: El Cid (Protective, Philosophical) (***i know hes not a monarch, but he did rule over Valencia)
-Unique Units: Tercios (Arquebrusier)

Chinese Empire
-Unique Units: Redguard (Infantry)

Roman Empire
-Unique Units: Knights Templar (Heavy Swordsman)

Celtic Empire
-Unique Units: Gallic Swordsman (Broad Swordsman), Barbarian Chariot (Composite Chariot)

Viking Empire
-Leaders: Eric the Red (Expansive, Aggressive)
-Unique Units: Longboats (Galley)

Egyptian Empire
-Unique Units: Sicklemen (Broad Swordsman)

Japanese Empire
-Leaders: Hideyoshi (Expansive, Philosophical)
-Unique Units: Japanese Musketmen (Musketeers)

Korean Empire
-Leaders: King Seonjo (Protective, Finnancial)
-Unique Units: Turtle Ships (Galleon)

***I'm not doubting that some people might disagree with his entry. I think since he took Germany out of dept and poverty I'll include him. BESIDES, if Stalin gets to be in, Hitler should too.

THIS IS NOT OVER. I WILL ADD MORE THINGS HERE IN DAYS TO COME.

I NEED HELP ON:
-The Ottomans
-The Indians
-The Malinese
-The Zulu
-The Nubians (a new civ)

ANCIENT-CLASSICAL TECH TREE IMAGE HERE: NOT PLACED IN CIVILIZATION YET, JUST AN IMAGE

Spoiler :

please and thank you for your feedback

-Sebiche

 

[Ball Lightning]

Looking Good, who is going to be the greek leader?

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Looking Good, who is going to be the greek leader?

May I suggest Pericles? (Philosophical/Creative?)

 

[Impaler[WrG]]

I say that Alexander after concouring the Greeks (and the rest of the know world) can call himself what ever he wants. If the only point is to kick him out of greece then thats not much reason for making a mod however historictly acurate it is. If your realy serious about a Macedonian Civ, add Philip II as well so you will have a nice well rounded Macedonian civ, Greece needs new leaders, Periclese is good but lets also include the Spartan king Leonidas who died in the battle of Thermopolia would be a great addition and provide Athens/Sparta contrast

 

[TRN2]

I would be interested in helping develop the tech tree - as I need a fairly acurate one for that era for my own mod - I would offer myself futher - but I am starting to get worried about how much actual time I will have to do what I have already offered to do for others

 

[Sebiche]

I was drafting the rest of my ideas today at school and the greek leaders i picked were Pericles (Creative, Philosophical) and Leonidas (Protective, Aggressive) just like the ones you thought. i figured pericles for his great work in the Golden Age and Leonidas for his marvelous military ability in the Greek-Persian war (Leonidas of Sparta V.S Xerxes of Persia)

I say that Alexander after concouring the Greeks (and the rest of the know world) can call himself what ever he wants. If the only point is to kick him out of greece then thats not much reason for making a mod however historictly acurate it is. If your realy serious about a Macedonian Civ, add Philip II as well so you will have a nice well rounded Macedonian civ, Greece needs new leaders, Periclese is good but lets also include the Spartan king Leonidas who died in the battle of Thermopolia would be a great addition and provide Athens/Sparta contrast

just so you know, by the end of Alexander's training by Aristotle he asked him "Have you made a greek of me?" and Aristotle answered "If I had, you would not of been this great" and Alexander said "Good, for I would't of preffered myself any other way". It was Phillip, his dad the one that wanted him to be a greek. when alexander asked him the same he said "Son, if you a greek I would say: find another kingdom, for neither Greece or Macedonia are great enough for you".

He was a proud Macedonian.

PHILLIP V was the Macedonian heir who conquered lands in attempt (and succesful until Roman intervention) to regain the Alexandrian Macedonia and the glory he wanted for his empire. His eminent defeat was the obsoleteness of the Phalanx and the power of the Centuria.

 

[Shqype]

I was drafting the rest of my ideas today at school and the greek leaders i picked were Pericles (Creative, Philosophical) and Leonidas (Protective, Aggressive) just like the ones you thought. i figured pericles for his great work in the Golden Age and Leonidas for his marvelous military ability in the Greek-Persian war (Leonidas of Sparta V.S Xerxes of Persia)



just so you know, by the end of Alexander's training by Aristotle he asked him "Have you made a greek of me?" and Aristotle answered "If I had, you would not of been this great" and Alexander said "Good, for I would't of preffered myself any other way". It was Phillip, his dad the one that wanted him to be a greek. when alexander asked him the same he said "Son, if you a greek I would say: find another kingdom, for neither Greece or Macedonia are great enough for you".

He was a proud Macedonian.

PHILLIP V was the Macedonian heir who conquered lands in attempt (and succesful until Roman intervention) to regain the Alexandrian Macedonia and the glory he wanted for his empire. His eminent defeat was the obsoleteness of the Phalanx and the power of the Centuria.

By "Macedonian" you mean "ancient Macedonian," as the modern Slavs are of an entirely different stock. By the way, Alexander had Illyrian roots.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

I was drafting the rest of my ideas today at school and the greek leaders i picked were Pericles (Creative, Philosophical) and Leonidas (Protective, Aggressive) just like the ones you thought. i figured pericles for his great work in the Golden Age and Leonidas for his marvelous military ability in the Greek-Persian war (Leonidas of Sparta V.S Xerxes of Persia)

Don't forget to take Leonidas' name out of the great generals list, as civ leaders aren't double-listed as great people. That is, unless you really want him in there as a GG for your mod.

 

[zulu9812]

Is there really any point to a Prussian civ? The German civ is there to cover Germanic peoples from the dawn of time

 

[Sebiche]

By "Macedonian" you mean "ancient Macedonian," as the modern Slavs are of an entirely different stock. By the way, Alexander had Illyrian roots.

wooooo wooo you dont want to try ME in alexandrian history.

Alexander, son of Phillip of Macedon and Olimpias of Illyria, sister to Alexander of Epiro (the macedonian state of illyria) which legend has it was settled by the son of Achilles and Briseis and his slave Cassandra (briseis's other prophetist sister. I KNOW MY ALEXANDRIAN HISTORY. YOU WANT TO QUESTION, SHOOT.

yes prussia is necesary.

 

[zulu9812]

wooooo wooo you dont want to try ME in alexandrian history.

Alexander, son of Phillip of Macedon and Olimpias of Illyria, sister to Alexander of Epiro (the macedonian state of illyria) which legend has it was settled by the son of Achilles and Briseis and his slave Cassandra (briseis's other prophetist sister. I KNOW MY ALEXANDRIAN HISTORY. YOU WANT TO QUESTION, SHOOT.

That point is completely unrelated to what Shqype said, which is that the Macedonians of Alexander's time are ethnically different to the inhabitants of Macedonia today.

And why is Prussia necessary?

 

[Turin Civ-User]

ok, but is this a vanilla or a warlords mod?

 

[Sebiche]

its a warlords mod

prussia is necesary because i like it ok?

 

[Shqype]

wooooo wooo you dont want to try ME in alexandrian history.

Alexander, son of Phillip of Macedon and Olimpias of Illyria, sister to Alexander of Epiro (the macedonian state of illyria) which legend has it was settled by the son of Achilles and Briseis and his slave Cassandra (briseis's other prophetist sister. I KNOW MY ALEXANDRIAN HISTORY. YOU WANT TO QUESTION, SHOOT.

yes prussia is necesary.

The ancient Macedonians themselves are said to have Illyrian roots.

That point is completely unrelated to what Shqype said, which is that the Macedonians of Alexander's time are ethnically different to the inhabitants of Macedonia today.

Thanks, at least someone got it.

 

[Sebiche]

ok so modern yugoslav macedonia is different from its hellenic past. im pretty sure we all know and agree. i made a mistake, the correct names is "Macedon" no "Macedonia" for "Macedon" (i.e not "Macedonia") was the hellenistic name for the particular kingdom above that of greeks. I KNOW MACEDON IS SAID TO HAVE ILLYRIAN ROOTS OK?

sorry if i offended you or something. has anybody checked the Ancient-Classical tech tree i added in? FEED-BACK PLEASE

And just in case you want toHELPheres some stuff I could use with helpers:

Graphic Issues:
-Unit art (I have no idea how to change around the files)
-Flags and Leaderheads (.dds converter don't come for Mac)
-Buttons and a what-not

XML: (I can do it, but its too much)
I was thinking of organization due to type and era like:
-Someone to do the Ancient-Classical Tech tree
-Someone else to do the Medieval one
-Someone else to do the Renaissance one
-Someone else to do the Industrial
-Someone else to do the Modern
AND FINALLY:
-Someone else to do the Future (BECAUSE NOW, FUTURISTIC UNITS WILL BE IN STOCK)

Unit XML:
Someone to help me write up some of the units because I get the feeling they will be PLENTY.

(I'll do the civics, the Civilizations, the build infos, religions, ETC)

PEOPLE PLEASE, IF YOU WANT THE ETERNITY MOD (AND YOUR NAME IN BIG SHINY BOLD AND LARGE LETTERS IN CREDIT) PLEASE TELL ME SO THAT YOU CAN HELP TOO
REMEMBER: DON'T ASK "WHAT WILL THE MOD DO FOR ME?" ASK "WHAT CAN I DO FOR MY MOD?"

THE FUTURE OF THE ETERNITY MOD DEMPENDS ON IT!

 

[Shqype]

I think it's cool to have Prussia, but that civ is too time-specific, especially since Germany is already a playable civilization. Prussia is a civ you would see in a mod (like during the Franco-Prussian war), while Germany is the civ you would have in CIV 4 (as is already the case).

Your tech names could use some work, but the ideas behind them aren't bad

 

[Sebiche]

Thanks Shqype, I really appreciate it. Yeah, Prussia is turning out to be more of a bugger than it is a helper.