Selling enemy's cities to ally for profit?

[papamaverick]

Hmmm just thought of this one, haven't tried it.

Would it be possible to, after just conquering a city, sell it to another nation in exchange for an alliance and a ton of other stuff (tech/trade/gold/etc)? If so, this could possibly be a great way to divide a country in two and earn some cash at the same time.

Looking for feedback.

 

[Carver]

If it works it could be a rather easy way of raising cash. Unfortunately, when I try to offload cities the AIs are rarely interested, even when I simply ask "care to offer anything for X". Of course, these are usually worthless cities. With a resource or lux I'm sure the AI would pay up.

 

[BCLG100]

you cant trade cities with the new patch you can only give them away or receive them

 

[Zouave]

That's another unrealistic aspect to Civ 3.

Cities have been sold in history, although not core cities admittedly.

We can't do that - but cities can Flip to another civ!

 

[BCLG100]

yeh its a bit unrealistic but who cares if no one like it they dont have to play it do they and if you uninstall the new patch then you can trade cities

 

[Maple]

Originally posted by Zouave
That's another unrealistic aspect to Civ 3.

Cities have been sold in history, although not core cities admittedly.

We can't do that - but cities can Flip to another civ!

We can sell cities, the AI just doesn't want to buy them. In PTW, city selling will probably become more popular.

 

[Hawkster]

I think it would be better to be able to sell cities to their original civ (ie the one that built it) - so you could capture a city in war and then if you didn't want it sell it back for a profit.

This would get rid of the city selling exploit that was blocked in v1.21 but allow cities to be sold which was originally part of the game.

 

[bobgote]

you used to be able to sell cities and it used to be a good way to get rid of the low production/ high corruption cities that you capture. Unfortunately no more. Even given as gifts, they seem to make people angrier at you.

 

[Lostman]

Well, the way I see it is why would I want to sell a city anyway? If I conquered it, I want it or I don't. If I don't, I don't want anybody else to have it either.

 

[SirJethro]

I've found that instead of razing cities that I don't want, I sometimes immediately give them to someone else (since they won't give me anything for them). Especially when I see someone coming near the borders before I've put any defenders there.

I'd rather bask in the graciousness of a one city civ from the other side fo the world than let an opponent take it from me.

 

[BCLG100]

the good thing about selling cities is if you have a city that is going to be teken over by a civ you can sell it to another civ for tonnes of gold/tech etc and your sity wont fall into the hands of the enemy

 

[SirJethro]

Originally posted by BCLG100
the good thing about selling cities is if you have a city that is going to be teken over by a civ you can sell it to another civ for tonnes of gold/tech etc and your sity wont fall into the hands of the enemy

Have you had success with this on patch 1.21f? The only time I've seen a Civ give or take a city in trade was at the peace table. I can rarely get them to take one for 1gp.

 

[Lostman]

Originally posted by SirJethro
I'd rather bask in the graciousness of a one city civ from the other side fo the world than let an opponent take it from me.

That's a good point. If you can help your rep by giving away your trash why not?

I just don't trust the AI. I give them a city and that will be the one they send they're armie out of to conquer me!!

 

[BCLG100]

no what i meant was in the original versian it was great to do that
in the 1.21 patch they will only accept or give cities they will not accept trade deals

 

[SirJethro]

Originally posted by Lostman


That's a good point. If you can help your rep by giving away your trash why not?

I just don't trust the AI. I give them a city and that will be the one they send they're armie out of to conquer me!!

I don't trust them either. That's why I always give it to one of the Civ's stuck in the stone age, and never to one who's boundaries are close to the city I'm giving.

 

[Crow T Robot]

Originally posted by Lostman
Well, the way I see it is why would I want to sell a city anyway? If I conquered it, I want it or I don't. If I don't, I don't want anybody else to have it either.

It seems like a dirty trick at the least. Sell off improvements in a border city, trade it for lots of gold or lots of tech, then wait for it to culture flip back. If it doesnt, go retake it.

Trading cities is a bit more lenient in peace talks - they seem more likely to trade captured cities (Romans recently were NOT inclined to give me a size 2-3 Roman city, but were happy to give me a size 5 city they captured from the French).