Settling on resources

[Iakhovas]

Where can I find information about what bonus will settling on a resource/tile give me? As far as I know settling on a plains hill gives +1H , the same on plains elephants. What about other possibilities?

 

[Iranon]

You get the yield of the unimproved tile, or 211 whatever is more. Exception: Flood plains (because the base terrain is a standard desert and some terrain feature - handled in a similar way as forests - gives the food yield).

Each of food, hammers and commerce is treated separately, so if you settle on a plains hills with stone you get 231; an awesome head start. Financial applies to the home tile if it produces a native 2-

 

[vanatteveldt]

Riverside +1c calendar resources for a financial leader give 3c, so they are good candidates, especially when calendar is still far away. Unirrigated rice gives 3f and only 4 when farmed, so that is a good candidate as well.

 

[henrebotha]

Exception: Flood plains (because the base terrain is a standard desert and some terrain feature - handled in a similar way as forests - gives the food yield).

Your wording is very confusing, but it seems as though you're saying that settling on FP gives 311, which is not true.

edit: Expanding on what vanatteveldt said, there are many resources which give minimal bonuses when improved. Ivory is one example. These resources, if they would result in a city tile yield of more than 211, are great to settle on.

 

[Iranon]

Hmm. Don't really see how my wording is confusing at all... but trying to clear it up:

Terrain overlays like forest, jungle or flood plains vanish when you put a city on top of them. If you settle on a flood plain, the tile changes to a normal desert; both the food bonus and the health penalty go away.

 

[Shurdus]

The confusion came from the fact that you assumed that every one knows that the flood plain is indeed an 'overlay' that can be removed in the same way that a forrest can. That a forrest can be removed from a tile is obvious, that a FP can be removed by settling on it - and I take it that is the only way to remove it - is not that evident. Now that we know what you mean the explanation was indeed accurate yet a bit more cryptic than it needed to be.

Very good thread btw, I had no idea how exactly I could see what the effect of settling in a certain spot was. Now I know and knowing is half the battle.

 

[Jumbled]

Hmm. Don't really see how my wording is confusing at all... but trying to clear it up:

Terrain overlays like forest, jungle or flood plains vanish when you put a city on top of them. If you settle on a flood plain, the tile changes to a normal desert; both the food bonus and the health penalty go away.

I felt you made it pretty clear in your original post that flood plains were an overlay. This was something I didn't know either, so thanks for clearing it up for everyone.

 

[Jrrd Tzu]

okay, so, for example to reconcile something in my head. If I settle on an Iron resource, do I get the use of the iron resource w/o building an mine on it? Or Did I just waste an iron resource? It makes sense to me that you get the resource. The city is the improvement.

 

[Fleme]

You get the resource if you have the prequisite tech for it (Calendar).

Resources that make sense for me to settle on are plains Marble, plains Ivory, Sugar and I won't say no to the occasional plains Stone either. Plains hill Stone is my favorite tile to settle on but I get those once every blue moon. 3 hammer city tiles are awesome. As a rule, tiles that grant extra food or extra hammers to the city tile are good but wasting a tile like iron or copper doesn't make sense unless you absolutely need to hook it up and have no time to waste.

I also occasionally settle on other calendar sources for the extra commerce (esp. financial leaders) and wine (because wine is never a really good tile in comparison).

 

[MadmanAtW]

When you build a city on a tile, you get 2 1 and 1 or how much of whichever of those the tile yields with no improvements built. (Note that building a city removes a flood plains, so it just counts as a desert, and it also removes forests and jungles.) For tiles without resources this means you get the standard 2 1 1 city everywhere except a plains hill, which by default has 2 so your city will be 2 2 1 - and also get the 25% hill defensive bonus to boot.

Building on a resource means sometimes you can get more than the default- settling on a grassland sugar means your city tile is worth 3 1 1 . The aforementioned plains hill stone would be 2 3 1 , a very nice tile indeed. Yes, you'd get more hammers by building the quarry, but you'd need a spare food from somewhere to run it. Basically any tile that you would rarely bother working the improvement for (wine often) or where the improvement yields minimal benefit (sugar) is a good candidate for settling on if you feel it's the best spot available.

 

[DaveMcW]

It's simple.

grassland + food resource = extra food
river + commerce resource = extra commerce
plains + hill + hammer resource = extra hammer(s)

 

[Khan Quest]

It's simple.

grassland + food resource = extra food
river + commerce resource = extra commerce
plains + hill + hammer resource = extra hammer(s)

Nicely said!