settling on wheat

[woodman6035]

I know this is prolly a dumb question, but I have a situation where if I settle on wheat I can get a cow and horses in my BFC plus the wheat of course. Is this not a smart move? Given the surrounding area two cities in that area would not be a very good idea.

 

[Valivator]

If you could post a screenshot that would be a lot of help.

 

[woodman6035]

Ok , here goes.....

 

[Nares]

Settle 2N of the wheat for a better city.

If you absolutely must grab the horse, settle the plains hill 1E of the wheat.

 

[woodman6035]

Thanks, maybe I'll just wait on the horses. I have all protected leaders on this land mass so it's not like I can do an Immortal rush anyway.

 

[Shurdus]

What difficulty is this? Chances are you can do an immortal rush anyway...

there seem to be more horses to the north. Judging from the limited view we get on the screenshot the AI seems to be north. Settling towards the AI to block land seems like a more solid choice than settling to the SW.

I agree with 2N from wheat. That should make an amazing commerce city. After the wheat is used to get that city to size you can always swap that tile with another city. Eventually settling on the horses for a junk city or settling 2E of the horses would do the trick.

Btw, if you are going to rush you may want to pre-road to the site and grab the horses in the first ring. Having to hook up horses after a border pop is not too hot for rushing so settling on the wheat would have been a poor choice for that too.

 

[woodman6035]

It's emperor, and right now I have nobody anywhere near me, so after I try the oracle I'm gonna rex.

 

[Shurdus]

Just so you know, REXing is in a typical situation more valuable than grabbing the Oracle. At Emperor grabbing the Oracle can be somewhat of a gambit. In general I would say that the Oracle is very 'meh' and that more land and sooner is very much 'yes oh dear god yes.'

 

[Nilmerf]

Settle 2N of wheat and 2E of horse!

 

[Soirana]

from what i see - 1NE of wheat and leave cows+oasis+gold for late city

 

[Mudcrab]

1N2E of the wheat to provide food for a decent cottage/production city

leave the cow to help supply food to a gold/cow/oasis city sited in the desert 1W of oasis. This allows good use of cottages on the grass tiles but also gives the food needed to run mines on the hills.

This leaves a good 3rd city to the north sucking in the rice and pig food sources.

 

[VoiceOfUnreason]

I know this is prolly a dumb question, but I have a situation where if I settle on wheat I can get a cow and horses in my BFC plus the wheat of course. Is this not a smart move? Given the surrounding area two cities in that area would not be a very good idea.

It's not a play I would make very often. Irrigated wheat is a lovely tile, but you get no advantage from settling on it. That doesn't mean never, but it does mean I would look hard for alternatives.

Here, the wheat isn't irrigated immediately, so you could consider it. It would be stronger (ie, lower opportunity cost) if the irrigation chains were blocked, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

The concern I would have is the raft of green tiles off to the west - if this location grabs the cows, then you have a lot of good tiles with no food resource to drive them. Not my favorite circumstance.

Personally, I'd locate this city 1NE of the wheat (on the river, still within range of the horses, then use the cows to fuel a second city to the south west. I think you can also make reasonable arguments for dropping the city between the wheat and the horse - either on the plains hill for the extra hammer, or on the coast for the ocean access.

 

[CornPlanter]

Thanks, maybe I'll just wait on the horses. I have all protected leaders on this land mass so it's not like I can do an Immortal rush anyway

Protective will not help them much. Go for it Unless ofcourse they are really too far.