SG Lurkers, ready?

[Scowler]

Ha! You posted just as I was editing it - nice one!

 

[Scowler]

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[Luv_Muffin]

I'm not sure if Sir Toma is going to be able pick this up in 24h.
(Again, nice building phase, Percinho.)

Do we skip to Liq, or wait for Sir T? If Liq gets it, then I think Sir T will be able to play afterwards, depending on social obligations.
Or do we do a first to post, get's it?
Maybe L or S.T can post what's going on.

Chores for me today. Need something to read between loads.

 

[Sir Toma]

The friends are staying over tonight as well so i probably won't be able to play for another 24 hours. Just enough time to get us into a war i think

 

[Liquidated]

just got home to shoot off a pm to luv muf and see I missed an RB sg on account it's like winning the lottery to get in.

I enjoy the peasant SG's though just fine!!!

and moo is from 1993 muf... mk?

let me get the nyquil and find the pimp name generator page incase we get into another war.

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Liquidated]

preflight...

very cool, oreleans can become productive. gonna sink some cash into this city... first buy that library and queue up a temple for the fast 1 culture. max food mininum commerce.

growth in 5 library in 1 I plan to push parais into the wate and flip it to us if I can help it...

buy the university in tokyo as well. Tokyo needs help bad, it's losing ground.

Ok looks good enough to start.

[1]1853 AD
electricity comes in well we need combustion for tanks right? 3 turns.

oh my no one's gotten broadway? hmmm ok lets see. ok djinne it is.

angle finishes infantry work on infantry.
tokyo finishes university bite the bullet and start factory.
Rheims finishes couthouse and lots of choices go factory in 23.
timbuk tries for broadway in 28... naw 26 when I made the forced scientist into an eng then takes on one more by taking work off the 2 food tiles for the 4 with growth in 14.

Alex adopts theo!

[2]1854 AD
kushiku builds an infantry. factory in 14.
start railing mines and forests for the extra hammers.

[3]1855 AD
hmm notice most forests and mines are not railed.. people!!!!! come on that's an extra hammer.

[4]1856 AD
Combustion comes in and industrialism in 13 sigh.

pigpen builds infantry start on bank in 8.

umm unhappiness... the 19 unhappy was from growing up =/ quese up a few buildsing lets hope we get broadway..

[5]1857 AD
Marooned gets a factory goes for a library.
gao is about to grow which is bad, so I force another artist. go factory in 15 some unhealth will lower the pop a bit!

[6]1858 AD
Shaggy gets the grocer work on dry dock.

rheims pops culture. not sure it it gained a tile but it's doing well.

[7]1859 AD
buy orleans it's university. ow almost 800 gold but it's worth it!!!

[8]1860 AD
Alex comes begging for elecrticity I say sod off.

start a grocery for djinn
wala gets it factory start on aquaduct.

orleans gets university and starts temple.. 20 culture a turn so far...

**** a jap revolt took place in tokyo.. time to move mass troopps in there. but I cannot because culture just surronded us. man just give tokyo to someone as a gift.. anyone but toku!!! ug cannot. it's gonna flip sooner of later so with a heavy heart... +1 to relations and get us our troops back

sorry, we tried.

fun part is tokyo is in revolt for 8 turns now for toku.

oil is hooked up btw.

moving tokyo's troops into orleans.

alex made peace with um izzy, toku is still using cav and catapults on nappy. cor nappy has a city def 3 infantry backed up with a medic sam lol.

[9]1861 AD
Toku is sieging vandel again, that guy is a moron. that city def 3 guy is 12.2 health and toku signs peace.

broadway in 16 turns, not a chance in hell but well... tanks in 8.

[10]1862 AD
toku demands we drop deal with nappy, tell him to screw off... tanks in 7. WE'll also know if we get aluminum. If not, find out where in toku's land it is and aim for it.

angle finishes whatever and it's back to chain building infantry.

shaggy is back on infantry as well.

upgrade a few rifles to infantry.

I lost tokyo sorry. we did out best in terms of culture and wasn't enough. keep in mind tokyo was all about denial and we did that very well.

go radio after industrialism and put djinne on rock and roll.

after that get flight and we have bombers. important kit.

spend our gold on upgrading the rifles we have... another war is gonna break out and we'll prolly be invited.

if we apply enough pressure on paris we can flip it.

tanks in 7... oil and coal is all hooked up.

TANKS IN 7

SEVEN TURNS ON TANKS.

some wake up muf and tell him liq said

Tank!!!! 7!!!!! COAL BURNING tanks!

Cheers!
-Liq


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Lurker_II_AD-1862.Civ4SavedGame

 

[Sir Toma]

Who's up next.
Whoever it is they have my full permission (which is worth absolutely nothing) to beat the crap out of toku as soon as we get the first tank off the production line. How dare he throw Tokyo into a revolt and attack our somewhat good friend Nappy (I'm only using this as an excuse).

No really i think we should try to get toku to declare war on us. Not only would it mean we would take most of his cities and make sure he has no chance to ever recover but we will keep our defensive pact with persia and get better relations for our mutual military struggle. It will make Persia switch to a war economy and send them down in score while we take toku'scities and go for domination.

^The ideas above are only to be used, tried or tested at your own risk. Sir Toma is not liable for any damages to your civ game while using his plans.

 

[Percinho]

I thikn we held Tokyo for a respectable length of time. As you sa y Liq, it was all about the denial, but it was going to be a push to hold it much longer.

I completely agree with Sir_T though, we must liberate the people of Japan. I believe regime change is in order as soon as we get tanks.

By the way, anyone have any idea how long it'll be until tanks?

 

[Luv_Muffin]

Poor Tokyo. It's borders evaporated too quickly at the beginning. From then on, it was like trying to push a shoelace uphill. Nuts. But what ya gonna do?

My turn? Poor Sir T. Maybe Sir Toma will have to take 20 turns for his turn if Scowler picks this up before him?
Downloading now. Maxing builds in Orleans is smart, Liq. If we flip Paris, and lose Tokyo, I'd call that a slam dunk. (We'll retake Tokyo next time Toku goes crazy)

* Got save, looking next. Refill my coffee, and I may get started quite soon. Scowler, or Sir Toma... who's going to carry the ball after me?
- I'll try not to get involved in any wars, but I follow Liq... you all know how that goes.

* Going back several pages in this post, to see if "somebody" has switched to no-growth or made any announcements I'm supposed to remember. *giggles like a schoolgirl*

* Liq says we'll have tanks? Sure... I tried steam powered tanks. That was a no go. You wanna try oil or gas burning tanks? Sounds dangerous to me, we should go for wind or solar powered tanks.

 

[Luv_Muffin]

Pre-Turn:
We are so close to 80% research, gonna grab it when I can.
I think catching up on techs is that important atm. I want our Industrialism
done soon!
I also swap our City Defence II rifleman guarding the stone resource with
a grenadier city defence I. If bad things happen, I'd want to keep my city
and lose (temporarily) my stone.
Upgrades needed for border troops, will see what I can do with my planned
increase in research.

lol. Gao is filthy with specialist artists! Heh heh.

PigPen was close to growing again, so I made a merchant and slowed growth.
Bank will really add to our cities income, and the merchant will help too.
(Hope I don't screw it up)

I found two workers slacking off in Marooned, sent them to work on the
rail gang. I'll try to avoid working the forest/mine tiles like Liq said.
Heh Heh. (Just kidding, Liq)

Looking down from the stratosphere, I count four of our cities as unhappy.

I hope we get these wonders and put an end to our own people bad talking us!
Ingrates.

Looking at the diplomatic screen, we have lost our defensive pact with Sally.
No worries, but it makes buffing up our western border that much more
important. Cyrus is still in a pact with us though, and Sally remains pleased
with Lurkerism.

Look at the tech situation:
Saladin has Radio! Oh my....
HC has flight! Gee, we need to catch these fools, and fast.

1. 1863 AD
Kushiku finishes Colosseum, starts factory (in Que)
I enable "AVOID GROWTH" at Kushiku, it will be unhappy and unhealthy
with extra pop, will be unhealthy with factory anyway, but whatever.
It can build a grocer next to get healthy again.

Paris is feeling our culture, heh heh. Orleans should topple Paris
unless Toku has a mitt full of Great Artists we don't know about.

It may be a little early, but I take the -4 hit, and bump research up
to 80%. We need to start reeling these techs in.

2.1864
Grocer built in Djenne, start on Hindu Missionary
PigPen builds Bank, start on University
Walata builds aquaduct, starts on Hindu Temple

I MM a few cities, got our new French towns growing quicker to grab
those tiles before Toku or Nappy can.
I also return a mine to Gao from Marooned. Gao could use more hammers
to finish the factory

Wall street due next turn.
Industrialism in 4 now, making +23 gpt at 80% research, will be more
next turn.

3. 1865 AD
Djenne builds Hindu missionary, starts on Mandir
Wall street built in Kumbi, start on Mandir
Walata builds Hindu Temple, starts on Hindu Missionary

Great Scientist born in Gao, he can help with fission?
(Since we don't actually need fission right now, will hang onto him
for SG to debate about his uses)

I cancel our deal with Saladin. Who traded Uranium for his Banana's?
Well, we aren't doing that anymore. I traded our deer for his Banana's.
Try to avoid trading strategic resources to civ's who don't deserve it,
like in a permanent alliance or something. I bet it was one of those,
here's a trade, accept it or we'll hate you things. It happens, but
it's over now. Find your own Uranium, Sally.
*In hindsight, I must have read the trade thingy wrong. Whoever made that trade was a genious! My bad.

4. 1866 AD
Angle builds Infantry, starts on Mandir
Courthouse built in Marooned, starts on Bank
Orleans builds Hindu Temple, starts on walls

PigPen gets put on AVOID GROWTH, because.
Maxed out on happy atm, is already unhealthy
Lots of MM'ing. I get Gao another mine, factory now in 4.
(*Marooned was supposed to fill a gap, not take away from our bigger,
developed cities*)

I notice HC has flight!
We get Ind in 2, if I can I will try to trade it to anyone, for anything.
We need to catch the tech leaders, and soon!

5. 1867 AD
Shaggy builds Infantry, starts Colosseum
Walata builds Hindu Missionary, starts Infantry

Hinduism spreads to Besancon.
I send our spare missionary on a scouting mission towards Hatty's
Empire. Looking at what Saladin has been up to on the way.
If we can, should try to spread Hinduism wherever we can.

6. 1868 AD
We get Industrialism!

Start research on Radio.
(Hello fellow babies, this is Dr. Muffin_Fever coming at you from WKRP)

Marooned discovers an Aluminium resource. Nice.
Moving Missionary through Saladin's land. It looks like his eastern cities
are garrisoned by three to four average units. No surprise attack eminent.
He must have mobilized everybody for his war with Alex in the west.

Now Saladin has plastics! Ugh.
On the other hand, Anjar is at 45% Arabian.
I wonder if Anjar ever flip to us?

Broadway in 9, and lots of our people are angry with us.
I really hope we get Broadway.

IBT: Saladin asks us to go to war with Greece.

No way, not going to happen. Our people would revolt if we did that!
Sorry Saladin, you're on your own. (I hope Alex wails on him)

7. 1869 AD
Orleans builds walls, starts on Buddhist temple.

I decide, on my own, that we need that Great Scientist working for us.
We get a +50% boost in beakers if I build an academy.
I build an academy in Gao ; our #2 research city.

(Our #1, Timbuktu already has an academy)
Go from 120-152 beakers in Gao. Got a culture boost as well.
You can yell at me later, but fission? We need lots of beakers, one tech isn't
going to make much of a difference here or there.
Feel free to cuss me out, but what's done is done.

I change to representation civic, for the research
and happiness. Way too many of our citizens were unproductive
demonstrators. So many of our own people are unhappy right now.
In fact, I'm getting a little angry myself.
*We clearly win two wars, are the most cultured civ on the planet, and they are angry? Boo-hoo, suck it up. So you get an apartment instead of a ranch house, deal with it citizens.*

Switch Rheims to Colosseum, too much unhappiness still in that city.
We need to buy the Colosseum, and fast.
I enter into a permanent alliance with Cyrus; we get Communism, Facism and Artillery in the deal. Nice, huh?

We are still behind, but I hope we can catch them. Cyrus gets Plastics
in 1, so we should get that too, right?
I hope you all don't hate me, but I had to take big risks to get us back
in the game.

IBT: Cyrus GIVES us hit musicals! That's what I like to see from my Ally's.

I guess Broadway is off the table now, huh?

8. 1870 AD
Timbuktu cannot build Broadway because some other civ got it before us!
Aaargh. I wonder who that was?

Timbuktu starts building Colosseum. *mumble mumble*
Factory built in Gao, start on Bank
(*Notice we can build 3 gorges dam now*)
Marseilles builds University, start on Colosseum
*We have entered the modern era!!!*

I have to raid Cyrus's resource bank to keep our people happy.

Monty and Nappy have formed a defensive pact.
Toku and HC have formed a defensive pact.
I don't think Saladin is doing too well in his war with Alex.

Monty has tons of Gunships on the border with Cyrus.
This cannot be good. I hope Cyrus and Monty play nice.

9. 1871 AD
Walata builds Infantry, starts on Colosseum
Colosseum built in Naggy, starts on Observatory

*Missionary spreads Hinduism to Alexandria*
It looks like Alex has taken Damascus from Saladin. Good.
I hope Sally slows down with the techs. Alex also has Giza, not sure how long he had it though.
Saladin now has fission!
Monty has flight now too!

10. 1872 AD
Colosseum built in Shaggy, starts on Aqueduct
Bank built in Marooned, starts on Colosseum

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That turn was all about building Colosseums. We have a major happiness problem. Mostly about overcrowding, but some of our cities want to join their homeland too. What's that all about?

I think our next tech must be Medicine. It should solve our overcrowding problem, and with hospitals we can improve health and get our people back to work.

Research is coming along, but I am amazed at how fast the other civs are gobbling up techs. Some wonders can be built, like the 3 gorges dam, Hermitage still needs a home, and we ought to get the forbidden palace put somewhere.

We have over a thousand gold stored up now, in a couple of turns we can swap back to Universal Sufferage and buy our happiness in troubled cities.
*EDIT: Notice how we went from Radio in 10, to Radio in 4... in TWO turns? Wow
Anjar dropped in size from 9 to 3 during my turnset? Cool...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Lurker_II_AD-1872.Civ4SavedGame

 

[Sir Toma]

Great work with the Perm. Alliance with Cyrus. It should get us back into the game (well at least partially).

I'm pretty sure its my turn now so i'll grab the save and play in a few hours.

My aims:
Strengthen economy.
Catch up in tech
Watch Monte very closely (he's been acting weird lately then again he's always like that)

 

[Liquidated]

those mass artists in gao (I never did that!) are kicking sweet ass on anjar. it will flip soon, whoever set that bomb up gets a

Think I forgot to mention that in my turn log.. I was laughing my ass off when I opened up gao and closed it before I could screw over that setup.

We need air cover. Fighters and bombers are required to back up the tanks to support one another.

This game is like prelude to WW1, it's a powder keg just waiting to set off.

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[temmage]

Heh, i definitely agree!

Great turnsets everyone on building up the economy.

 

[Luv_Muffin]

Here are a few more screens from my turn, for those following along.

Culture:

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Power:

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Domestic Affairs:

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Technology Tree:

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Many other civs have Rocketry & Flight.
Only Saladin has Radio & Fision +(Rocketry-has no flight)

Demographics:

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The End Zone:

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[Sir Toma]

I have a wee little problem with the save.
It keeps coming up with "Failed to uncompress file" or something like that and it won't let me load the game. Can someone else get the save and see if it happens to them. I have never had this happen to me before. In fact i was playing my turns for my other SG before it and didn't have any problems (except rampaging aztecs attacking my cities but that always happens to me anyway )

 

[Liquidated]

it's just a bad save; I'm getting the same error Sir T.

Lets make fun of muff in the meantime and let the mrs. muff know he's been sending dirty packets to strange people on the internet!

thinking more sleep is a good idea. but man going to sleep at 4am is so NOT LIKE LIQ.

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Luv_Muffin]

checking into it now.

Lets make fun of muff in the meantime and let the mrs. muff know he's been sending dirty packets to strange people on the internet!

Oh, she knows my friend. She knows.
* I clean my cookies, do scans and use anti-virus software. If that isn't enough, maybe I should use a cream on the tender areas of my HD. Heh heh.

*NEW save for Sir Toma
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Lurker_II_AD-1872-2.Civ4SavedGame

I got the same repeated error message.
Thanks to Auto-save, I played last two turns (1870-1872) and followed my turn-log. I hope this works for you now Sir Toma.

In order to avoid your disapproval, I saved the game, restarted my pc, and then loaded and was able to play the save. It should work... cross your toes and think happy thoughts when you download the new save.

Turn Order:
Liq -- he must be moo'ing or something
Luv_Muffin -- finished
Sir Toma -- Next! (missed turn)
Scowler -- On deck
Percinho -- On leave
Sir Toma -- waiting impatiently for himself to play new save

 

[Liquidated]

Silver is back! so um about those flaming barbs!!!!!!

Anyone from this SG has an open invitation as well as whomp if still around!

Will start a thread after getting the ok from silver (he owns) muf has already sent me hate mail as to when barbs going to happen.

If too many peeps want in I'll lurk it lol I just wanna see sir toma suffer for his sins!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153014


fear!

Cheers!
-Liq

 

[Luv_Muffin]

I was thinking about what to do what that nest-egg of cash we now have.
Maybe we should upgrade our aging grenadiers/riflemen to Machinegunners/Infanty at Marseilles, Shaggy and Orleans?
Mostly Marseilles though. If Monty gets ideas, would be nice to have him beat his head on a wall of promoted/upgraded units. May save a few units to upgrade to marines too.

Cavalry can be upgraded to gunships, once we get flight.
Research is going so quickly because our beakers are added to Cyrus's beakers for rapid research. We should catch up in tech's quickly.
Grab Flight(only Cyrus and us will have bombers & fighters), then medicine (should only be a few turns), then back to rocketry?

We still need happiness, but taking all of Cyrus's +1smiley's made that less urgent.
Good luck, Sir Toma.

 

[Sir Toma]

Got it.
This one better work.
I'll play in a few hours, i have to go into town to buy a book or something and then i have to eat and then i can play civ for a few hours. YAY!