GreyFox
Make it so ...
So, Maquis, have we won conquest yet? 
SGOTM 02 - VQ Red
- Thread starter AlanH
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Maquis
King
Sorry guys... I'm having some major PC issues right now... I can't seem to keep my PC up for more than 10 mins at a time (I suspect the power supply is going on the fritz, but havn't been able to get a replacement to verify yet)
I need a skip, and sorry for holding upt he game so long
I need a skip, and sorry for holding upt he game so long
GreyFox
Make it so ...
OK, Got It, will Play sometime in the next 16 hrs.
PS> most likely tha last 2 hrs of the 16 hrs, so don't hold your breath.
PS> most likely tha last 2 hrs of the 16 hrs, so don't hold your breath.
the roster...
Maquis == PC issues
GreyFox == UP!
Scowler == scowlin'
Codeman == codin'
armstrong == buildin' leg muscle
Krockel == the OoP crock pot is done!
dot == dottin' t's, crossin' eyes - humor lost on culture/language differences
Maquis == PC issues
GreyFox == UP!
Scowler == scowlin'
Codeman == codin'
armstrong == buildin' leg muscle
Krockel == the OoP crock pot is done!
dot == dottin' t's, crossin' eyes - humor lost on culture/language differences
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Inherited Turn: 1454AD:
Some
- Why wasn't the turn completed???
- Why are we building colosseum in Madrid? I thought its our GP farm? Why wasn't the specialist maxed out?
- I Vetoed Coloseum to Nat Epic, next player please check constantly to whip it out.
- There is a priest in Barcelona? Why? We don't need priest! Benefits us more to have city grow.
- Removed a scientists in Santiago to let in grow
- Removed Merchant in Salamanca
- Recall all fog busters ... useless since borders gives a 1~2 tiles vision space. Most fog busters are thus useless.
Next the trading:
- Traded Astronomy to Hatty for Paper, Guilds, 30g, and WMap.
- Bride Bismarck to war on Hatty with Astronomy + 40g
- Traded Astronomy with Kublai for Engineering and Music and 210g
Next, some whipping:
- whipped Granary at Edo
- whipped Heroic Epic at Kyoto
a whopping 85 turns of unhappiness ... 
Gota love the Globe Theatre!
1460AD
Bismarck came pleading for help immediately
Sorry, buddy, we are not ready yet ... He immediately drop to cautious ... petty bastard!
1466AD:
whipped knight at Kyoto
Some dude told us we are the most backwards civ ... yeah, check back 500 years later.
1472AD:
Great Engineer borned in Madrid. We need to discuss what to do with him We can start a Golden Age if we want. I have already started learning Gunpowder, so decided against lightbulding. So, another option is to use him to lightbulb the next tech.
It suddenly occur to me to check our resources trading ... and hey pesto, there are none! I imediately launched eBay:
This allows us to up our research by 10% more
I also had enough of moving this galley ...
Yeah, a bit drastic ... but it's really useless.
1484AD:
Whipped Galeon in Kyoto
1496AD:
Whipped galleon at Kyoto
Whipped Samurai at Edo
and in the war news:
Go, Otto, go!
I have moved a knight and 2 cats to the donut. I have also loaded the two scientists on a galleon to be moved to Osaka land. Better move them prior to declaration.
>>> The Save (1502AD) <<<
Some
- Why wasn't the turn completed???
- Why are we building colosseum in Madrid? I thought its our GP farm? Why wasn't the specialist maxed out?
- I Vetoed Coloseum to Nat Epic, next player please check constantly to whip it out.
- There is a priest in Barcelona? Why? We don't need priest! Benefits us more to have city grow.
- Removed a scientists in Santiago to let in grow
- Removed Merchant in Salamanca
- Recall all fog busters ... useless since borders gives a 1~2 tiles vision space. Most fog busters are thus useless.
Next the trading:
- Traded Astronomy to Hatty for Paper, Guilds, 30g, and WMap.
- Bride Bismarck to war on Hatty with Astronomy + 40g
- Traded Astronomy with Kublai for Engineering and Music and 210g
Next, some whipping:
- whipped Granary at Edo
- whipped Heroic Epic at Kyoto
a whopping 85 turns of unhappiness ... Gota love the Globe Theatre!1460AD
Bismarck came pleading for help immediately
Sorry, buddy, we are not ready yet ... He immediately drop to cautious ... petty bastard!
1466AD:
whipped knight at Kyoto
Some dude told us we are the most backwards civ ... yeah, check back 500 years later.
1472AD:
Great Engineer borned in Madrid. We need to discuss what to do with him We can start a Golden Age if we want. I have already started learning Gunpowder, so decided against lightbulding. So, another option is to use him to lightbulb the next tech.
It suddenly occur to me to check our resources trading ... and hey pesto, there are none!
I imediately launched eBay:
This allows us to up our research by 10% more
I also had enough of moving this galley ...
Yeah, a bit drastic ... but it's really useless.
1484AD:
Whipped Galeon in Kyoto
1496AD:
Whipped galleon at Kyoto
Whipped Samurai at Edo
and in the war news:
Go, Otto, go!
I have moved a knight and 2 cats to the donut. I have also loaded the two scientists on a galleon to be moved to Osaka land. Better move them prior to declaration.
Spoiler Extracted Log :
>>> The Save (1502AD) <<<
GreyFox
Make it so ...
I realized I just played 7 turns, since no one has get this yet, I am going to play a few more turns now. Please bear with me. 
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Played. Nothing much, mainly troops movement and whipping. I also corrected the OR civics
Bismarck came demanding gold ... nah, I told him to concentrate on war. We better declare soon to improve relationship with Bismarck.
Hatty has a settler expedition near our Osaka land ... good free city!
Our scientists is awaiting for the 2nd leg of transport:
When a galleon is built in Osaka land, bring some troops to donut, and fetch these scientists.
Our current forces in donut:
One more ferry and we should declare. I am building longbowmans in all 3 island cities ... they should be whipped or built before declaration. We don't want Hatty to bring a galleon full of maces and simple walk into these cities.
I think I played a total of 14 turns, bringing us to 1529 (turn #313) Next player feel free to play either 17 turns or 12 turns to even it out.
>>> The Save (1529AD) <<<
Bismarck came demanding gold ... nah, I told him to concentrate on war. We better declare soon to improve relationship with Bismarck.
Hatty has a settler expedition near our Osaka land ... good free city!
Our scientists is awaiting for the 2nd leg of transport:
When a galleon is built in Osaka land, bring some troops to donut, and fetch these scientists.
Our current forces in donut:
One more ferry and we should declare. I am building longbowmans in all 3 island cities ... they should be whipped or built before declaration. We don't want Hatty to bring a galleon full of maces and simple walk into these cities.
I think I played a total of 14 turns, bringing us to 1529 (turn #313) Next player feel free to play either 17 turns or 12 turns to even it out.
>>> The Save (1529AD) <<<
Maquis == PC issues
GreyFox == finished some cleaning house
Scowler == up!
Codeman == on deck
armstrong == buildin' leg muscle
Krockel == the OoP crock pot is done!
dot == dottin' t's, crossin' eyes - humor lost on culture/language differences
GreyFox == finished some cleaning house
Scowler == up!
Codeman == on deck
armstrong == buildin' leg muscle
Krockel == the OoP crock pot is done!
dot == dottin' t's, crossin' eyes - humor lost on culture/language differences
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Or perhaps opportunity for a swap? 
I think we can start a 2 pronged attack. Kyoto can be whipped every 2 turns, so our larger stack should come from Bismarck land. Osaka isn't that great in producing armies. So I suggest bringing a galleon with a 3 units to go to HC's land to pick up the 2 scientists. Once that is done, the southern force in Bismarck land should be big enough. We declare, use the southern force to take cities, the nothern 3 units to server as harrassment forces.
The 2 scientists should be brought back for academy construction. Basically the cities in Osaka will provide our empire with beakers and gold coin. Only Osaka currently has the hammer to produce troops at a tolerable rate.
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I think we can start a 2 pronged attack. Kyoto can be whipped every 2 turns, so our larger stack should come from Bismarck land. Osaka isn't that great in producing armies. So I suggest bringing a galleon with a 3 units to go to HC's land to pick up the 2 scientists. Once that is done, the southern force in Bismarck land should be big enough. We declare, use the southern force to take cities, the nothern 3 units to server as harrassment forces.
The 2 scientists should be brought back for academy construction. Basically the cities in Osaka will provide our empire with beakers and gold coin. Only Osaka currently has the hammer to produce troops at a tolerable rate.
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GreyFox said:Or perhaps opportunity for a swap?
i agree. since i will have an easier time on the weekend... i will play tonight or in the morning. post any ideas/suggestions beforehand. i'll post a 'playin' when i begin.
GreyFox said:
i will see about making the final preperations.
look out hatty 
1. Kyoto sam>sam
have both sams in Kyoto wait.
scientist wait
troops wait
bismark trades…
2. hindu spreads to us…
Cordoba galleon>grocer
scientist wait
troops wait
had fog buster outside borders recalled to inside borders
3. Toledo forge>grocer
Kyoto sam>sam
all troops waiting
4. Santiago galleon>grocer
load sam, horse archer, axe on galleon and head for ring
5. Kyoto sam>sam
Salamanca work boat>knight (will need couple units to take hatty on Osaka cont)
send 4 sam from Kyoto to ring
cont to head for scientist
6. drop sams on ring
do some tradin’… now researching steel
whipped nat epic
7. drop the axe-sam-horse>pick up scientist
Madrid went back to col
getting some units in place on Osaka before DOW
8. hatty wants to trade goods, no
KK declares war!!! Pause for discussion here.
he went from cautious to annoyed pretty fast. also, was gettin' ready to declare. just wanted the galleon with the scientist a safe distance away. guess not a bad choice to wait.
so we need to change our plans. will post save in a moment fr anyone to look at.
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm2/VQ_Red_SG002_AD1559_01.Civ4SavedGame
KK says we traded with his worst enemy. that must have been when i traded with MM. so the current war declaration against us is due to my failing to check who liked/hated who beforehand. i know better. sorry guys.
so, is this a 'fake' war, or not? if so we could still launch against hatty. we are ready, the galleon with the scientists will be safe in 1 turn.
have both sams in Kyoto wait.
scientist wait
troops wait
bismark trades…
2. hindu spreads to us…
Cordoba galleon>grocer
scientist wait
troops wait
had fog buster outside borders recalled to inside borders
3. Toledo forge>grocer
Kyoto sam>sam
all troops waiting
4. Santiago galleon>grocer
load sam, horse archer, axe on galleon and head for ring
5. Kyoto sam>sam
Salamanca work boat>knight (will need couple units to take hatty on Osaka cont)
send 4 sam from Kyoto to ring
cont to head for scientist
6. drop sams on ring
do some tradin’… now researching steel
whipped nat epic
7. drop the axe-sam-horse>pick up scientist
Madrid went back to col
getting some units in place on Osaka before DOW
8. hatty wants to trade goods, no
KK declares war!!! Pause for discussion here.
he went from cautious to annoyed pretty fast. also, was gettin' ready to declare. just wanted the galleon with the scientist a safe distance away. guess not a bad choice to wait.
so we need to change our plans. will post save in a moment fr anyone to look at.
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm2/VQ_Red_SG002_AD1559_01.Civ4SavedGame
KK says we traded with his worst enemy. that must have been when i traded with MM. so the current war declaration against us is due to my failing to check who liked/hated who beforehand. i know better. sorry guys.
so, is this a 'fake' war, or not? if so we could still launch against hatty. we are ready, the galleon with the scientists will be safe in 1 turn.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Goosh .. I don't think we can take on Hatty and KK at the same time. Fortunately, KK is on the same ring, so we can bring our forces around to attack KK (provided we have OB with HC and MM).
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i've been feelin' under weather today and have not/will not be able to play more.
scowler, go ahead and finish my set when you play yours. gonna have several turns of re-routing troops. don't forget to continue whipping kyoto every other turn.
we do.
scowler, go ahead and finish my set when you play yours.
gonna have several turns of re-routing troops. don't forget to continue whipping kyoto every other turn.GreyFox said:
we do.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
We need some ships to protect our resources in the eye of the donut, and make sure we have at least one longbowmen in each city. We can bring a lot of forces from Osaka land eastwards to KK's west coast.
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