Ghandi wont trade Math for Pottery and IW. Maybe if we trade him Pottery for a cheap tech, he'll trade Math for Writing and IW. We can increase our chances of him trading us Math by putting a turn into it so it seems less valuable. I'd like to see us go this route to get Math initially and then go after Machinery or Compass to lead the way to Optics (possibly lightbulbed by our GS if we can't or don't get Philosophy first). I would prefer Compass, just so that if we somehow get beat to the GL, our GE can lightbulb us Machinery without wasting prior research. Of course, all this tech talk is just for the time between now and when we need Literature to hurry the GL.
I don't think St. Pete will go unhappy when it grows to 5, so a MP isn't critical yet and may not be until it hits 7 (if our next citizen becomes a scientist too, slowing growth enough until the whip penalty wears off). Also, I was building the lighthouse because behind the rice, cows, gems and future farm on the river it has no good tiles to work when it's not working the fish. In hindsight, we may not need that many tiles, so the lighthouse just provides the +1 food for when we are using the fish. I have no problem with Kodii changing that to a forge to eventually whip, but w/o running a GE will only net us +1 hammer and +1 happy face and if we do run a GE, we are diluting our GS pool.
I would caution us against getting too wonder-happy. We've already sacrificed an early attack for the Pyramids, which we all agree was a good move based on our situation. We're hoping to rush the GL (another agreed upon good move). But if we are planning on building the Hanging Gardens and the Colossus, we may be concentrating too little on establishing more of an empire from which to attack. EDIT: Specifically, I think that we should pass on the Colossus and use those hammers to build explorers or military. The bonus from the Colossus is only if we are actually working water tiles, of which our current cities will work at least 6 per turn. I think we would gain more by using those hammers to explore for new friends or annihilate old enemies. I like the idea of building Hanging Gardens in Moscow to help keep pace with St. Pete's future ridiculous GS production.
Since we have to get CS to get to MT anyway, I don't see why we wouldn't want to snag Construction and start the bloodshed with cats and maces (if we don't decide to dull our axes and swords on Greek bones) while we're still getting to MT.
I don't think St. Pete will go unhappy when it grows to 5, so a MP isn't critical yet and may not be until it hits 7 (if our next citizen becomes a scientist too, slowing growth enough until the whip penalty wears off). Also, I was building the lighthouse because behind the rice, cows, gems and future farm on the river it has no good tiles to work when it's not working the fish. In hindsight, we may not need that many tiles, so the lighthouse just provides the +1 food for when we are using the fish. I have no problem with Kodii changing that to a forge to eventually whip, but w/o running a GE will only net us +1 hammer and +1 happy face and if we do run a GE, we are diluting our GS pool.
I would caution us against getting too wonder-happy. We've already sacrificed an early attack for the Pyramids, which we all agree was a good move based on our situation. We're hoping to rush the GL (another agreed upon good move). But if we are planning on building the Hanging Gardens and the Colossus, we may be concentrating too little on establishing more of an empire from which to attack. EDIT: Specifically, I think that we should pass on the Colossus and use those hammers to build explorers or military. The bonus from the Colossus is only if we are actually working water tiles, of which our current cities will work at least 6 per turn. I think we would gain more by using those hammers to explore for new friends or annihilate old enemies. I like the idea of building Hanging Gardens in Moscow to help keep pace with St. Pete's future ridiculous GS production.
Since we have to get CS to get to MT anyway, I don't see why we wouldn't want to snag Construction and start the bloodshed with cats and maces (if we don't decide to dull our axes and swords on Greek bones) while we're still getting to MT.
Just what did I get into? My name in history as a dud?
