SGOTM 07 - Chokonuts

Played 10 turns basically just researching away.

JC demanded Liberalism and we obliged.
A GS was born and merged.
We sign open borders with Catherine and trade Stone for Silk to improve relations, since she is the greatest power in the world.
We gift Beaver to Asoka to help his happiness.
Catherine demands 100gp and we give it to her.
Kublai asks us to cancel deals with the Germans. We say no way.
Catherine offers Steel and 200gp for Electricity, but we decline.
JC asks us to cancel deals with the Americans, but we decline. We should make war on our on terms. JC is still ok with us.
Computers finish and we start Medicine. Asoka joins in.
A Laboratory will finish in 6. We can then build a Hospital.

We should probably look to increase our culture output.
 
OK I'm back. Thought I had posted I'd be OOP for a week or so but looking back I forgot.

Not sure on Medicine as it is a dead-end tech. We should only research the techs we need from here. Asoka will do the bulk of the work, a bit of extra health for us doesn't mean much. I would be heading for Industrialism (to se if there is any Aluminium).

I can grab it for tomorrow.
 
Ozbenno said:
OK I'm back. Thought I had posted I'd be OOP for a week or so but looking back I forgot.

Not sure on Medicine as it is a dead-end tech. We should only research the techs we need from here. Asoka will do the bulk of the work, a bit of extra health for us doesn't mean much. I would be heading for Industrialism (to se if there is any Aluminium).

I can grab it for tomorrow.
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Medicine was an idea to help improve unhealthy cap via Enviromentalism, if we can grow without it then ok we won't need it.
 
We should look at it in terms of turns saved by diverting to Medicine. Will we recover the turns it takes to research Medicine? I can't see that having some extra health and size at this stage would save us 10 turns as Asoka is doing the grunt work for us. We should be able to pick it up in a trade at some stage.

EDIT: I made the ten turns up, no idea how many turns it takes. Also we are the furthest into the game of any of the teams so we shouldn't be too bothered about the deadline (unless they have all already lost - wishful thinking).
 
Onwards and onwards as they say....

Changed research from Medicine to Steam Power (4 turns). Catherine will trade us Steam Power but its probably best to research ourselves. We can pick up Steel from a few AI but no great deals spring out. I trade Liberalism and Sci Method to Kublai for Democracy. I then trade Liberalism and Physics to Frederick for Steel (Saladin and Catherine already know Physics so can't be long until fred does and wanted to get max value from it). Saladin, Catherine, Elizabeth and Cyrus are the ones we should be careful about trading with, the others are fair game. Catherine has Railroad and Artillery, sally, Lizzy and Cyrus have Railroad.

Steam Power replaced by Assembly Line, which is so far unknown. Asoka has coal one square north of Athens (where he is building a mandir) so we may get access to some..

Our lab builds in Beijing, causing unhealthiness. We can build Iron-works but best at the moment to go back to building research.

Saladin and Louis go to war.

Assembly Line is done at the end of 10 turns. I set sail for Industrialism for Aluminium (so we know if we have it or not for building Apollo). Refrigeration and Genetics are another option, so we can build a factory or iron-works. After that, I'd head for Rocketry, then Robotics.

Sally also has Artillery and Cathy is the only one who will trade Railroad but wants both Electricity (a monopoly tech) and Assebmly Line (only Cyrus), so that's no good.

Cathy has enough on her hands. I upgraded our troops to infantry just in case.

If we get another Great Person we should consider bulbing the tech if its on our tech path.
 
I'll be away from my pc from this saturday to monday the 7th.
I'll check in on progress a couple of times during that period, but I won't be able to play.
So I'd like to take ten turns tomorrow.
I'll continue the plan that Ozbenno has laid out.
 
Asoka builds the Eifel Tower, and we get a broadcast tower :-)
We get a GS, he will bulb fission, I save him for future use.
Catherine wants us to go to war with Germany, I don't see a reason to do this.
The she wants assembly line, I give in to this, to improve our relations just a bit.
Then she cancels all deals with us... so giving her assembly line, was perhaps not such a good idea :-(
We have aluminum, just north of Beijing.
Industrialism is in, I head for Refrigeration.
Asoka has two alu, and gives us one, but we still build our mine.
Saladin wants us to go to war with Catherine, I think we should keep out of this one.
Then Louis wants us to attack Saladin, same reply.
And in the last turn, Catherine completes the Apollo program!!!

Refrigeration is in 3 turns.
 
Ozbenno said:
Saladin, Catherine, Elizabeth and Cyrus are the ones we should be careful about trading with, the others are fair game.
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This is really important to remember and includes caving in to tech demands. This is vanilla, if Cathy was after us all we would have done was give her infantry to attack us, if she wasn't after us (which she wasn't) then she'll be too busy attacking whoever else to worry that we didn't give in to her.

Personally, I'd have gone after Rocketry next but we may as well keep going to Genetics now.

As for the GS, we may be able to trade for Fission later. In ay case we won't want Fission until after Rocketry and Robotics by which time we should have another GS to double bulb, or we merge this one, not sure.

I think we're down to Mighty Dwaarf, ngraner and me for the next while, you want to take it Mighty?
 
I'm finally back - never thought I would be away. I just moved and for some reason, the internet hookup was not working...but I'm back now and able to play whenever we think I should jump back in.
 
After finally getting over Englands humiliation to NZ.....

Only question I can see for next turns is what to head for after Rerigeration??
I can only see heading straight for Rocketry as an option. We need to get Apollo built asap as we will only have 3 at best cities for building space parts so need to get started building them asap. Currently only Cathy will trade for Artillery so hopefully someone else may do in meantime otherwise we''l need to do it ourselves. If she would trade Rocketry would that be wise??? I forgot to look at beaker cost vs Radio/Ind.
Something maybe for the future, as Washngton is so far behind techwise maybe he could be easily steamed over with some infantry and artillery?? He still hasnt got Steam Power/Steel/Physics so only has Cats and Rifles and his capital is screened off somewhat from us by mountains.
 
A frustrating set of ten.

Refrigeration in changed to Artillery, Asoka though changes to Railroad. After pressing enter he stays on RR. (In test game my PA partner always changed to match what I was researching??). I decide to look for trade for RR hoping to get him to change to Artillery.
Best I could find was to Fred-: Bio+Comm4 Rails and 130g. NOrmally I would say this was a bit light but gave him those rather than either Electric or Assembly Line as he could have traded on the latter two to others.
Anyway, Railroad in but Asoka changes to Combustion :mad::mad:. Also we have no coal so cant build rails. Currently 2 off Artillery and 3 off combustion. On last turn Artillery came available in trade but to late to get anywhere near a decent trade.
Asoka got a great artist who he has sent over to old Greek cities to bomb, hopefully can get one of nearby coals afterwards.
Cathy wanted us to join her war against Arabs, declined. She also built 2 casings :(.
We need to get to Rocketry as soon as possible, if Asoka doesnt help us research it I think we are going to have to trade for it if possible.
 
Ozbenno said:
You can direct the PA partner to change research. Select "let us discuss something else" and there is an option to change his research.

Let's get to Rocketry to start some Casings and then to Robotics. Cathy hopefully gets caught up in her war
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If only I'd known that this morning :rolleyes: Can we also influence what they build?? This maybe important later.
 
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