SGOTM 07 - Murky Waters

FiveAces · Jul 9, 2008

Great timing on getting Cuzco to revolt Erkon. :lol:

You gonna tell us how you planned that one?

jesusin · Jul 9, 2008

Erkon said:
Played a bit more. Delhi captured, Cuzco and York redlined. Report updated.

Keep it coming!

Erkon · Jul 9, 2008

FiveAces said:
Great timing on getting Cuzco to revolt Erkon. You gonna tell us how you planned that one?

Having my units >2 tiles away perchance? Of course it was pure luck :lol:

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

Great stuff, Erkon!!!

Big relief to get Delhi. That second KK gren pillaging was genius! Well done on RIPing Asoka. That Cuzco revolt is funny, but it won't be so funny if Bombay goes into revolt.

Can't believe you're still getting Bio in time. Talk about luck. :lol:

Gnejs · Jul 9, 2008

How soon can we redline London?

Erkon · Jul 9, 2008

Gnejs said:
How soon can we redline London?

My units are injured, and Liz may send reinforcements to York. I would guess it will take ~10 turns from now. Unless KK sends his galleons there and handles it all by himself. If there was a way to get Liz to send away her armada....

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

So what's your next move, Erkon?

Erkon · Jul 9, 2008

KILL'EM!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!
KILL'EM!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!
KILL'EM!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!
KILL'EM!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!
KILL'EM!! KILL'EM ALL!!!!

:aargh:

Erkon · Jul 9, 2008

The Captain humbly reports the results of this turn set:

Bombay captured
Delhi captured
York captured
Cuzco captured
KK landing 11 units SE of London
5 turns to Biology as of T161

Save uploaded. Final spoiler will come later. Now I'm going for a pizza and beer...

Session Turn Log from 820 AD to 1010 AD:

Spoiler :

FiveAces · Jul 9, 2008

Excellent work Erkon! :goodjob:

Superb play!

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

Exemplary play from our Captain!!! Very well done, Erkon! :goodjob:

Things are looking up.

Btw, how did our frigate end up in St. Pete? Break a rudder? :lol:

(j/k)

Erkon · Jul 9, 2008

LowtherCastle said:
...Btw, how did our frigate end up in St. Pete? Break a rudder? (j/k)

It had nothing better to do than scout a bit, and since certain members of the Peanut Gallery indicated an interest in the war progress of Hatty I felt compelled to improve our intel

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

Erkon said:
It had nothing better to do than scout a bit, and since certain members of the Peanut Gallery indicated an interest in the war progress of Hatty I felt compelled to improve our intel

I was assuming it would go starve Sal next, but I guess it could bombard Rome instead.

Our frigate should pillage those St. Pete whales while they're still unowned.

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

Looks to me like our Great Artist will be needed in New York. Not exactly sure how much it will help, but otherwise New York is going to suffer serious starvation if it comes out of resistance before we finish. We won't need it in York, if KK doesn't get funky capturing London. If KK bombs New York or New York reaches 10 :culture:

, then we don't need Rome to come out of resistance.

Our population for domination is borderline right now. I estimate us having about 166 of a needed 168 at game's end, not including the effects of Biology and not considering that Sal is still growing. (His population grew pop4 in the last 10 turns, but he poprushed for pop3 in his Globe City, thankfully.)

jesusin + klarius should easily wrap this game up.

Btw, Saladin has Rifling! :eek:

klarius · Jul 9, 2008

LowtherCastle said:
Looks to me like our Great Artist will be needed in New York. Not exactly sure how much it will help, but otherwise New York is going to suffer serious starvation if it comes out of resistance before we finish. We won't need it in York, if KK doesn't get funky capturing London. If KK bombs New York or New York reaches 10, then we don't need Rome to come out of resistance.

NY

. Why should NY come out of resistance before Washington falls. Otherwise it will have it's inner nine (including our furs) and I don't see serious starvation.

LowtherCastle · Jul 9, 2008

klarius said:
NY . Why should NY come out of resistance before Washington falls. Otherwise it will have it's inner nine (including our furs) and I don't see serious starvation.

How come it gets its inner nine if we've put about a thousand culture points on those tiles? Its inner nine wil be completely comvered by our culture by then.

And does that mean KK would feel no pressure to bomb the GA if we gifted it in NY?

FiveAces · Jul 10, 2008

LowtherCastle said:
How come it gets its inner nine if we've put about a thousand culture points on those tiles? Its inner nine wil be completely comvered by our culture by then.

We cannot culture pressure kk since we have a PA with him. If team culture overlaps, unique BFC tiles get first priority, then it might be the inner nine (i.e. if a kk inner nine tile overlaps with one of our outer BFC tiles he will always get that tile regardless of how much more culture we have on it. I think that's why klarius says we will lose the furs), then I think overlapping outer BFC and non-BFC tiles ownership is determined normally by who has more culture on the tile.

And does that mean KK would feel no pressure to bomb the GA if we gifted it in NY?

I think for purposes of determining whether to bomb, our culture counts same as kk's (i.e. team culture) so if we have <60% on the NY tile than he should still feel pressure, but only until wash is dead. After that I think he will feel no pressure even if NY is 100% chinese. I will defer to klarius on this though since I am not 100% sure.

klarius · Jul 10, 2008

LowtherCastle said:
How come it gets its inner nine if we've put about a thousand culture points on those tiles? Its inner nine wil be completely comvered by our culture by then.

And does that mean KK would feel no pressure to bomb the GA if we gifted it in NY?

Because the decision who gets the tile between team mates, is not based on culture if it's in the city radius of both, but on distance to the city. There is a special metric applied just for this case which means after culture expansion NY will also have the tile 2W.
And he will not bomb, if America is away.

FiveAces · Jul 10, 2008

Aw c'mon klarius, you could have just said I was right except for the special metric part

EDIT: I'm kidding of course. Your explanation was simpler and clearer.

klarius · Jul 10, 2008

FiveAces said:
Aw c'mon klarius, you could have just said I was right except for the special metric part

EDIT: I'm kidding of course. Your explanation was simpler and clearer.

Well, I haven't even read your post before I answered LC

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But yes, basically your post was right.

Edit: That's What's used.

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