SGOTM 18 - Unusual Suspects

[neilmeister]

No on Eng trade to Joao. Worst case scenario. We trade it to Joao, he spams trebs and takes Swinger's pad. Getting Engineering six turns earlier could make a difference on immortal. We are royally screwed if he takes Swinger's Pad. And to get Compass?? We don't need compass. Wait until it falls in our lap! Same for HBR. We don't need it!

We can't think about worst case, him getting Engineering just 6 turns earlier is not going to make any difference. It quickens the tech pace, and it is another tech to Joao (we get a permanent +1 for every 7 techs we trade him.)

Evil DoWed Joao, so he must have some units, and I saw no evidence of Evil losing anything despite him being the target of a holy war earlier.

edit: Chariot defending Kark isn't just giving GK's units XP, it soaks up an attack, giving us the potential for our reinforcements to arrive.

 

[SteelHorse]

If we try to keep Kark, then we should pull the Pike out of Besh as well. He can get there in 2 turns versus 3 for the others. Besh looks safe - no?
Tough call either way. The downside of sacking 3 units is the XP for the attackers. Would hate seeing them at 3C.
I do like the mounted killing pike on the way!

 

[shulec]

him getting Engineering just 6 turns earlier is not going to make any difference.

Glad to hear it.

 

[neilmeister]

Had another look at the save, I'm OK for moving the Beshabik pike. It is safe.

 

[SteelHorse]

Joao is battling both GM and Evil at the moment. He has a stack of Beserkers he has to deal with. I think he can use a little help actually.

I am fine trying to keep Kark. Not enamored with any of the units we have there. But we should take out the elephant camp. It is the only real unit he has that can hurt us.

 

[neilmeister]

Yes OK, pillage the phants.

 

[Deckhand]

@SH, would appreciate your input reg. the chariots.

Move both where they could reinforce Karakorum (which forest?) or
move both where they could pillage the elephants or
one to each spot. (one near ivory could be killed by the keshik we can see.

Yes OK, pillage the phants.

This turn, we can move the chariot(s) to the ivory. Then next turn they can pillage. [we could put axe on road to block keshik movement (assuming tile without road truly doesn't have one)
One is enough to pillage the ivory - if he doesn't send a keshik after it. (pillage order =camp, then road - right?)
Probably the keshik will concentrate on Karakorum.
so, I am leaning to option 3. We could reinforce with 2 pikes (1 from Besh) and 1 chariot.

Question: can GK see Beshbalik garrison? I don't think so. If not then there should be no chance he takes opportunity of empty city.

 

[neilmeister]

I think beshabik is safe because GK cannot reach it in his go. We have a few piles that can move in next turn if required.

Good luck.

Edit: I am on my phone, so I can't open the save atm, for the axe & chariots just use your best judgement

 

[Deckhand]

I think beshabik is safe because GK cannot reach it in his go.

:doh: :fishslap: oh yeah, his units only move 2 on roads he doesn't have Engineering

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Good luck.

Edit: I am on my phone, so I can't open the save atm, for the axe & chariots just use your best judgement

OK, I will take that as a green.

bottom line on trades was yes for Joao and no to rest (as in my plan), right?

 

[SteelHorse]

yup. green from me.
good luck

 

[neilmeister]

:doh: :fishslap: oh yeah, his units only move 2 on roads he doesn't have Engineering

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OK, I will take that as a green.

bottom line on trades was yes for Joao and no to rest (as in my plan), right?

Yes, that's right

 

[Deckhand]

'K thx;
gotta give a ride... so it will be >30 minutes before I play.

 

[astre]

agree with conclusions of the team. green

 

[Deckhand]

Here is the save:
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/download.php?file=Unusual_Suspects_SG018_AD0700_01.CivBeyondSwordSave

neil is up and astre is on deck

T141 - move units as discussed, trade for compass
IBT - GK wins (we lose 3 units and his are mostly undamaged)
T142 - Capture New Sarai, pillage ivory, reinforce Karakorum
IBT - GK loses (he loses all but one of attacking stack)
T143 - start moving toward Turfan
IBT - GK attacks and kills a couple units
T144 - drop off spy to investigate Member'sOnly, revenge, create MedicIII
IBT - Gandhi declares on Dr Evil! our trireme is damaged
T145, AD700 - good time to stop; units are moving into place to besiege Ning-hsia and Turfan; some units haven't moved, their moves probably depend on post GK plans

Spoiler :

here is a mystery: I don't know how our trireme was damaged
I don't see anything in the logs
moved 2 triremes, 1 galley w spy, and dropped off the spy
next turn, one of the triremes was at 0.2 health
(edit) it probably survived an attack by a caravel, there were no caravels in screenshot I took turn spy was dropped off (not posted) but there is one in the city (last picture). why doesn't this battle show in the logs? (or am I just blind - time to sleep)

I will post the logs now. (done)

edit - adding screenshots
1 - AP Vote
2 - woot! we won
3 - Mansa will trade Divine Right for Education
4 - GK is chopping his forests
5 - Member'sOnly

 

[Deckhand]

Session Report:

Spoiler :

Here is your Session Turn Log from 620 AD to 700 AD:

Turn 141, 620 AD: You have discovered Compass!
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have discovered Education!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult (5.00) vs Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) (5.67)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 65.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (77/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (54/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (31/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 17 (53/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 17 (36/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant (9.60) vs Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City) (8.96)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 67.5%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +100%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (43/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (25/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant has defeated Austin Powers's Pikeman 1 (Pig City)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant (9.60) vs Austin Powers's Axeman 3 (Fish City) (4.80)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 99.2%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 3 (Fish City) is hit for 24 (36/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 3 (Fish City) is hit for 24 (12/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 3 (Fish City) is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant has defeated Austin Powers's Axeman 3 (Fish City)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik (7.20) vs Austin Powers's Catapult 7 (Ironside) (2.80)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Class Attack: -50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Catapult 7 (Ironside) is hit for 28 (42/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 13 (87/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Catapult 7 (Ironside) is hit for 28 (14/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Austin Powers's Catapult 7 (Ironside) is hit for 28 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik has defeated Austin Powers's Catapult 7 (Ironside)!

Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 4 (Ironside) (7.80) vs Genghis Khan's Archer (3.00)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 99.9%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 4 (Ironside) is hit for 12 (88/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Archer is hit for 31 (69/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Archer is hit for 31 (38/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Archer is hit for 31 (7/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 4 (Ironside) is hit for 12 (76/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Archer is hit for 31 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 4 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) (4.00) vs Genghis Khan's Longbowman (4.05)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 56.1%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman has defeated Austin Powers's Trebuchet 11 (Ironside)!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) (4.00) vs Genghis Khan's War Elephant (3.03)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 86.2%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (71/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (49/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (27/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) (7.20) vs Genghis Khan's Longbowman (5.08)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 89.1%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 18 (25/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Longbowman is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 7 (Washington) has defeated Genghis Khan's Longbowman!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 7 (Old Sarai) (4.00) vs Genghis Khan's Swordsman (3.18)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 91.9%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -120%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Swordsman is hit for 21 (63/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Swordsman is hit for 21 (42/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 10 (Old Sarai) (4.00) vs Genghis Khan's Axeman (2.30)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 99.5%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -120%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 24 (49/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 24 (25/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Maceman 2 (Washington) (9.60) vs Genghis Khan's Axeman (2.33)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: +75%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Maceman 2 (Washington) has defeated Genghis Khan's Axeman!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) (6.00) vs Genghis Khan's War Elephant (2.00)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 21 (4/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) is hit for 18 (46/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) has defeated Genghis Khan's War Elephant!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Gaius Marius (Great General) has been born in Fish City (Austin Powers)!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 5 (Ironside) (7.20) vs Genghis Khan's Swordsman (2.80)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 99.7%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +27%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 5 (Ironside) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Swordsman is hit for 20 (5/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Swordsman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 5 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's Swordsman!
Turn 142, 640 AD: You have captured New Sarai!!!
Turn 142, 640 AD: You have trained Confucian Missionary in Fish City. Work has now begun on a Galley.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult (5.00) vs Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (7.20)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 28.8%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (77/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (54/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (31/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (8/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's Catapult!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant (9.60) vs Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) (12.69)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 22.3%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: +100%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 23 (77/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 23 (54/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (74/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 23 (31/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (58/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (42/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 23 (8/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (26/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) is hit for 16 (10/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's War Elephant!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant (10.40) vs Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (11.01)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 60.6%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: +125%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) is hit for 17 (51/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's War Elephant is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's War Elephant!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik (6.26) vs Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (8.26)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 42.6%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Combat: +125%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) is hit for 14 (37/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 26 (61/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) is hit for 14 (23/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 26 (35/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 26 (9/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 26 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 8 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's Keshik!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult (1.55) vs Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) (3.78)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 12.0%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 27 (4/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Genghis Khan's Catapult is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) has defeated Genghis Khan's Catapult!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Mohammed Shah (Great Prophet) has been born in Oporto (Joao II)!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel (3.00) vs Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) (2.40)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 75.1%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Plot Defense: +10%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (49/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (32/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (15/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Goldmember's Caravel is hit for 17 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Austin Powers's Trireme 1 (Fish City) has defeated Goldmember's Caravel!
Turn 142, 640 AD: University of Sankore has been built in a far away land!
Turn 142, 640 AD: The Apostolic Palace voting members have announced their decision: Apostolic Palace Election (Winner Proposes Apostolic Palace Resolutions) (Requires 28 of 72 Total Votes)

Turn 143, 660 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Karakorum!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Fish City will become unhealthy on the next turn.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Washington has become unhappy.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Old Sarai has become happy.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Beshbalik has become happy.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Karakorum will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Tabriz will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Mansa Musa has 330 gold available for trade.
Turn 143, 660 AD: The borders of Paradise Gate are about to expand.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) (7.20) vs Genghis Khan's Keshik (3.63)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Combat Odds: 98.7%
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Combat: -100%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 27 (73/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 27 (46/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 27 (19/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 14 (72/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) has defeated Genghis Khan's Keshik!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Your Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) has destroyed a Keshik!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Fish City will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Old Sarai will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 143, 660 AD: The borders of Paradise Gate have expanded!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik (7.20) vs Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) (7.56)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Combat Odds: 47.0%
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Fortify: +20%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (72/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (54/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (36/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (18/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik has defeated Austin Powers's Crossbowman 8 (Pig City)!
Turn 143, 660 AD: While defending, your Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) was destroyed by a Mongolian Keshik!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman (6.00) vs Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) (6.25)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Combat Odds: 35.3%
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman has defeated Austin Powers's Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate)!
Turn 143, 660 AD: While defending, your Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) was destroyed by a Mongolian Axeman!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman (5.50) vs Austin Powers's Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) (5.00)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Combat Odds: 68.1%
Turn 143, 660 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 143, 660 AD: Austin Powers's Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) has defeated Genghis Khan's Axeman!
Turn 143, 660 AD: While defending, your Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) has killed a Mongolian Axeman!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Georgy Zhukov (Great General) has been born in Guimarães (Joao II)!
Turn 143, 660 AD: Goldmember has completed The Sistine Chapel!

Turn 144, 680 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Karakorum!
Turn 144, 680 AD: Fish City has become happy.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Washington has become happy.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Paradise Gate can hurry Maceman for 1⇴ with 31ℤ overflow, 14ℴ added to the treasury, and +1⇤ for 18 turns.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Old Sarai has grown to size 3.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Beshbalik can hurry Trebuchet for 1⇴ with 4ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 18 turns.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Karakorum has been pacified.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Tabriz has been pacified.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Gandhi has 200 gold available for trade.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Joao II has 5 gold per turn available for trade.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 6 (Pig City) (7.20) vs Genghis Khan's Axeman (3.90)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Combat Odds: 99.1%
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 6 (Pig City) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 6 (Pig City) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Genghis Khan's Axeman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 6 (Pig City) has defeated Genghis Khan's Axeman!
Turn 144, 680 AD: Your Pikeman 6 (Pig City) has destroyed a Axeman!
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) (7.20) vs Genghis Khan's Keshik (1.93)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: (Combat: -100%)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 32 (26/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Genghis Khan's Keshik is hit for 32 (0/100HP)
Turn 144, 680 AD: Austin Powers's Pikeman 2 (Ironside) has defeated Genghis Khan's Keshik!
Turn 144, 680 AD: Your Pikeman 2 (Ironside) has destroyed a Keshik!
Turn 144, 680 AD: Ironside will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 144, 680 AD: Gandhi has declared war on Dr Evil!

Turn 145, 700 AD: Fish City will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Fish City can hurry Confucian Missionary for 1⇴ with 32ℤ overflow, 7ℴ added to the treasury, and +1⇤ for 34 turns.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Ironside has grown to size 4.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Ironside has become unhappy.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Ironside can hurry Trebuchet for 2⇴ with 9ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 52 turns.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Old Sarai will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Joao II has 140 gold available for trade.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Mansa Musa has 380 gold available for trade.
Turn 145, 700 AD: Your Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) has reduced the defenses of Turfan to 48%!

 

[Deckhand]

Buffy Log (now I will add some screenshots to handoff post above)

Spoiler :

Logging by BUFFY 3.19.003 (BtS 3.19)
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Turn 141/500 (620 AD) [29-Nov-2013 22:20:45]
Tech traded to Joao II (Portugal): Engineering
Tech acquired (trade, lightbulb, hut, espionage): Compass
80% Research: 141 per turn
0% Culture: 44 per turn
0% Espionage: 8 per turn
20% Gold: -67 per turn, 205 in the bank

After End Turn:
Tech research finished: Education
Fish City grows to size 8
Pig City grows to size 3
Paradise Gate grows to size 7
Paradise Gate finishes: Maceman
Old Sarai grows to size 4
Beshbalik grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 1 (Pig City) loses to Mongolian War Elephant (8.00/8) (Prob Victory: 32.5%)
While defending in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Axeman 3 (Fish City) loses to Mongolian War Elephant (8.00/8) (Prob Victory: 0.8%)
While defending in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Catapult 7 (Ironside) loses to Mongolian Keshik (5.22/6) (Prob Victory: 0.0%)

Turn 142/500 (640 AD) [29-Nov-2013 22:28:58]
Diplomacy: Mansa Musa (Mali) offers to trade Divine Right to Austin Powers (Swinger) for Education
While attacking in Mongolian territory near Turfan, Crossbowman 4 (Ironside) (4.56/6) defeats Mongolian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Research begun: Printing Press (16 Turns)
Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) promoted: City Raider I
Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) promoted: City Raider II
While attacking in Mongolian territory at New Sarai, Trebuchet 11 (Ironside) loses to Mongolian Longbowman (2.58/6) (Prob Victory: 56.1%)
Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) promoted: City Raider I
Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) promoted: City Raider II
While attacking, Trebuchet 9 (Paradise Gate) escapes from Mongolian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 86.2%)
While attacking in Mongolian territory at New Sarai, Crossbowman 7 (Washington) (0.96/6) defeats Mongolian Longbowman (Prob Victory: 89.1%)
Trebuchet 7 (Old Sarai) promoted: City Raider I
While attacking, Trebuchet 7 (Old Sarai) decimates Mongolian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 91.9%)
Trebuchet 10 (Old Sarai) promoted: City Raider I
While attacking, Trebuchet 10 (Old Sarai) decimates Mongolian Axeman (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
While attacking in Mongolian territory at New Sarai, Maceman 2 (Washington) (8.00/8) defeats Mongolian Axeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Gaius Marius (Great General) born in Fish City
While attacking in Mongolian territory at New Sarai, Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) (2.76/6) defeats Mongolian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Mongolian territory at New Sarai, Pikeman 5 (Ironside) (4.86/6) defeats Mongolian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Judaism has spread: New Sarai
Captured New Sarai (Genghis Khan)
New Sarai begins: Library (91 turns)
While attacking in the wild at New Sarai, Axeman 4 (Washington) (5.00/5) defeats Mongolian Worker (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
A Camp near Tabriz was destroyed by Swingers Chariot 1 (Pig City) (6 gold)
Paradise Gate begins: Chariot (1 turns)
Galley 1 (Fish City) promoted: Combat I
0% Research: 0 per turn
0% Culture: 44 per turn
0% Espionage: 8 per turn
100% Gold: 69 per turn, 221 in the bank

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Paradise Gate
The whip was applied in Old Sarai
Whip anger has decreased in Beshbalik
Fish City finishes: Confucian Missionary
Paradise Gate finishes: Chariot
Old Sarai finishes: Trebuchet

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (4.08/6) defeats Mongolian Catapult (Prob Victory: 71.2%)
While defending in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 2 (Ironside) (0.60/6) defeats Mongolian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 77.7%)
While defending in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (3.06/6) defeats Mongolian War Elephant (Prob Victory: 39.4%)
While defending in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 8 (Ironside) (1.38/6) defeats Mongolian Keshik (Prob Victory: 57.4%)
While defending in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) (2.70/6) defeats Mongolian Catapult (Prob Victory: 88.0%)
While defending in Swingers territory near Member's Only, Trireme 1 (Fish City) (0.24/2) defeats Goldmember Caravel (Prob Victory: 24.9%)

Turn 143/500 (660 AD) [29-Nov-2013 22:51:46]
While attacking in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) (4.32/6) defeats Mongolian Keshik (Prob Victory: 98.7%)
Pikeman 2 (Ironside) promoted: Combat II
Chariot 3 (Paradise Gate) promoted: Combat I
Chariot 3 (Paradise Gate) promoted: Medic I
Crossbowman 9 (Old Sarai) promoted: Combat I
Trireme 2 (Fish City) promoted: Combat I
Paradise Gate begins: Maceman (3 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Library (90 turns)
Fish City begins: Galley (3 turns)
Fish City begins: Galley (3 turns)
0% Research: 0 per turn
0% Culture: 44 per turn
0% Espionage: 8 per turn
100% Gold: 60 per turn, 290 in the bank

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Fish City
Whip anger has decreased in Pig City
Fish City grows to size 7
Fish City finishes: Trebuchet
Paradise Gate's borders expand
Old Sarai grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Crossbowman 8 (Pig City) loses to Mongolian Keshik (3.48/6) (Prob Victory: 53.0%)
While defending in Mongolian territory at Turfan, Axeman 2 (Paradise Gate) loses to Mongolian Axeman (2.00/5) (Prob Victory: 64.7%)
While defending in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Trebuchet 3 (Pig City) (3.20/4) defeats Mongolian Axeman (Prob Victory: 31.9%)
Attitude Change: Dr Evil (Evil) towards Joao II (Portugal), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 144/500 (680 AD) [29-Nov-2013 23:11:26]
While attacking in Mongolian territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 6 (Pig City) (3.72/6) defeats Mongolian Axeman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
Pikeman 9 (Paradise Gate) promoted: Formation
While attacking in Swingers territory at Karakorum, Pikeman 2 (Ironside) (6.00/6) defeats Mongolian Keshik (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Gaius Marius (Chariot) promoted: Lead by Warlord
Gaius Marius (Chariot) promoted: Medic II
Gaius Marius (Chariot) promoted: Medic III
Fish City begins: Confucian Missionary (4 turns)
Fish City begins: Galley (3 turns)
Fish City begins: Confucian Missionary (4 turns)
Fish City begins: Confucian Missionary (4 turns)
0% Research: 0 per turn
0% Culture: 44 per turn
0% Espionage: 8 per turn
100% Gold: 55 per turn, 350 in the bank

After End Turn:
Paradise Gate finishes: Maceman
Ironside grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
Gandhi (India) declares war on Dr Evil (Evil)
Attitude Change: Gandhi (India) towards Dr Evil (Evil), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Dr Evil (Evil) towards Gandhi (India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 145/500 (700 AD) [29-Nov-2013 23:32:43]
A Cottage was built
A Farm was built near Paradise Gate

shulec, sorry I haven't kept the test game up to date. I will work on it some on Saturday.

 

[astre]

looking at the save, i have one question: why can't we see music in the trading room?

some remarqs:
we should declare dr evil for bonus relations
game is not paused
MM will get edu in 6 turns. do we trade 380 gold for it?
we can sell some resources for money
pig city needs MP. to be built in gate.
we need some courthouse. build only 4 libraries now (5 are being started)
I'd like to see a theater in gate to fight jao culture.

war against GK is nearly finished. in 3 turns, we should get 2 more of his cities, I'm expecting we leave him tiflis. as soon as this is finished, a nice stack should move to members.

 

[shulec]

@deckhand nice job, the test game is probably a waste of time at this point.

Who is up? We need to get the next turnset played in the next 48 hours!

Let's wait for an invitation to join the war with Evil for diplo bonus.

 

[SteelHorse]

Nicely done DH

Getting the GK cities was critical.

Agree with Astre - nearly done with GK. Time to turn attention to the south (members only) and west (swingers pad). Need to focus on both.

 

[Deckhand]

looking at the save, i have one question: why can't we see music in the trading room?

Only Goldmember knows it. We can't trade with him.
I meant to mention that he built the Sistine Chapel for us!

some remarqs:
we should declare dr evil for bonus relations
game is not paused
MM will get edu in 6 turns. do we trade 380 gold for it?
we can sell some resources for money
pig city needs MP. to be built in gate.
we need some courthouse. build only 4 libraries now (5 are being started)
I'd like to see a theater in gate to fight jao culture.

war against GK is nearly finished. in 3 turns, we should get 2 more of his cities, I'm expecting we leave him tiflis. as soon as this is finished, a nice stack should move to members.

Nice summary of reasons I stopped. Time for some more decisions and a shift in focus.

Who is up? We need to get the next turnset played in the next 48 hours!

Let's wait for an invitation to join the war with Evil for diplo bonus.

Agree.
Wait for an invitation or until we are ready. (peace w GK)
Yes, need to finish off GK and capture M'O this weekend.

either astre or neilmeister is up - whoever is more available:

• neilmeister (t0-19)(t70-79) (t130)
• shulec (t19-31)(t79-91)
• SteelHorse (t31-41)(t91-102)
• Trystero (t41-51)(t102-113) busy with RL
• Pollina (t51-62) (t114-125)
• Deckhand (t126-129)(t131-144) - just played
• astre (t62-70) back (he was going to drop one place in order but may not need to)

I will clean up the map, pause it and repost.