[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[Mitchum]

We have 5 muskets vs. 1 longbow now, so we can't get much stronger.

Attack with the musket west of the city first.
Should be strongest I think.
Will pray for damage.

The cover promotion balances the river penalty so all 3 muskets have the same odds (17.83%). Attacking now with non-cover musket first.

 

[WastinTime]

Nice first musket! Don't get too confident tho....

 

[WastinTime]

Peter is in anarchy, so Drama is not (14). I think we have to wait for him to pick the next thing.

 

[WastinTime]

So, since the tri's are lured away, is it safe for the galley drop the muskets back near Mound city? can they trap the longbow?

 

[Mitchum]

Here is your Session Turn Log from 860 AD to 920 AD:

Spoiler :

Turn 153, 860 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 1 (Science) (5.00) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.34)
Turn 153, 860 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 153, 860 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 153, 860 AD: Lady Stoneheart is the first to discover Liberalism!
Turn 153, 860 AD: You have discovered Liberalism!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Cows celebrates "We Love the Prime Minister Day"!!!
Turn 153, 860 AD: You have constructed a Forge in Silver. Work has now begun on a Bank.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Bismarck adopts Theocracy!

Turn 154, 880 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Clams!
Turn 154, 880 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Canal!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Science can hurry National Park for 4⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Silver has grown to size 10.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Silver can hurry Bank for 5⇴ with 24ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 19 turns.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter has 60 gold available for trade.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have discovered Medicine!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has expanded into Silver.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has brought +8℣+30ℶ, -11ℴ to Silver. Increase this bonus by acquiring more Crab, Clam, Fish, Rice.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has been incorporated in Silver!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart has completed Sid's Sushi Co!
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have plundered 15ℴ from the Mine!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter has 60 gold available for trade.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter will trade Clam
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter has 60 gold available for trade.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Peter will trade Clam
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 1 (Musketman) (9.90) vs Sitting Bull's Catapult (5.00)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Combat Odds: 99.1%
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Catapult is hit for 27 (73/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 1 (Musketman) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Catapult is hit for 27 (46/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Catapult is hit for 27 (19/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Catapult is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 1 (Musketman) has defeated Sitting Bull's Catapult!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Musket 1 has destroyed a Catapult!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 1 (Science) (5.00) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.36)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Fortify: +20%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Science) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Canal will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Silver will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have trained Sid's Sushi Executive in Silver. Work has now begun on a Bank.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have trained a Work Boat in Whales. Work has now begun on a Forge.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have constructed a Forge in Clams. Work has now begun on a Catapult.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley (2.00) vs Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) (2.20)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Combat Odds: 32.2%
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Plot Defense: +10%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams) is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley has defeated Lady Stoneheart's Galley 3 (Clams)!
Turn 154, 880 AD: While defending, your Galley 3 (Clams) was destroyed by a Native American Galley!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Bismarck has made peace with Charlemagne!

Turn 155, 900 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Clams!
Turn 155, 900 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Canal!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Cows can hurry Forge for 3⇴ with 28ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Canal has grown to size 8.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Silver has grown to size 6.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Profit can hurry Work Boat for 1⇴ with 24ℤ overflow, 3ℴ added to the treasury, and +1⇤ for 16 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Whales can hurry Forge for 4⇴ with 36ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 14 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Clams can hurry Catapult for 1⇴ with 8ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 19 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter will trade Theology
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Caravel 1 (Cows) (3.00) vs Sitting Bull's Galley (0.44)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 155, 900 AD: (Plot Defense: +10%)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Caravel 1 (Cows) is hit for 13 (87/100HP)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Caravel 1 (Cows) is hit for 13 (74/100HP)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Sitting Bull's Galley is hit for 29 (0/100HP)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Caravel 1 (Cows) has defeated Sitting Bull's Galley!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Zhuge Liang (Great General) has been born in Science (Lady Stoneheart)!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Caravel 1 (Cows) has destroyed a Galley!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Charlemagne refuses to talk.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You are the worst enemy of Charlemagne.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Sitting Bull.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter will trade Theology
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter will trade Clam
Turn 155, 900 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Louis XIV, Peter, Sitting Bull
Turn 155, 900 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Sitting Bull
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 1 (Science) (5.00) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 155, 900 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Science) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Silver will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Profit will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Clams will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter adopts Slavery!
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have discovered Theology!
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have constructed a Forge in Canal. Work has now begun on a Courthouse.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have trained a Catapult in Clams. Work has now begun on a Courthouse.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Louis XIV adopts Bureaucracy!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Sitting Bull adopts Bureaucracy!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Sitting Bull adopts Slavery!

Turn 156, 920 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Clams!
Turn 156, 920 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Cows!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Silver has grown to size 7.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Silver can hurry Sid's Sushi Executive for 2⇴ with 12ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 27 turns.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Profit has grown to size 6.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Whales can hurry Work Boat for 1⇴ with 20ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 13 turns.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Clams has grown to size 5.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Charlemagne is no longer the worst enemy of Bismarck.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has expanded into Science.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has brought +8℣+32ℶ, -20ℴ to Science. Increase this bonus by acquiring more Crab, Clam, Fish, Rice.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) (9.90) vs Sitting Bull's Longbowman (12.30)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Combat Odds: 17.8%
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Plot Defense: +20%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 17 (49/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 17 (32/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman) is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman has defeated Lady Stoneheart's Musket 7 (Musketman)!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Musket 7 has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 4 (Musketman) (9.90) vs Sitting Bull's Longbowman (3.93)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Combat Odds: 99.4%
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Plot Defense: +20%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (Combat: -25%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: (River Attack: +25%)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 4 (Musketman) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 4 (Musketman) is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 22 (10/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Sitting Bull's Longbowman is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Musket 4 (Musketman) has defeated Sitting Bull's Longbowman!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Musket 4 has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have captured Mesa Verde!!!
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have pillaged 98 ℴ from the destruction of Mesa Verde!!!
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have destroyed the city of Mesa Verde!!!

 

[Mitchum]

So, since the tri's are lured away, is it safe for the galley drop the muskets back near Mound city? can they trap the longbow?

Possibly. I just uploaded the save. I've only moved 2 muskets to capture Mesa Verde so we have options. We could use our captured worker to see if we can lure the LB a bit further south...

EDIT: I also spread Sushi in Science so that we could see the impact to our economy.

 

[Mitchum]

You can't tell by our culture graph that we have Sushi just yet. It should become more obvious soon...

 

[WastinTime]

You can't tell by our culture graph that we have Sushi just yet. It should become more obvious soon...

I was just thinking you can tell. If you're looking for it.
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yes, our galleys were all 5 tiles away from the Tri's so of course they turned back.
I think we have to move in range (4 tiles) and move our Tri back home. Our caravel needs 2t to heal. and is not back in place yet.

 

[Mitchum]

I forgot to pause the save. Be careful...

I'll upload it again now (paused this time) just in case.

 

[WastinTime]

oh, good point. I'll exit and wait for the paused one.

 

[Mitchum]

I was just thinking you can tell. If you're looking for it.

If you know what you're looking for you can tell but the change is pretty subtle. Maybe if you change the horizontal scale to start sometime later than 4000 BC it's more obvious.

 

[Mitchum]

oh, good point. I'll exit and wait for the paused one.

It's been uploaded. It should have a _02 at the end.

 

[Mitchum]

I hope I didn't screw the pooch with the triremes. We have to maintain sea superiority or the war will be that much more painful.

 

[WastinTime]

We could use our captured worker to see if we can lure the LB a bit further south...

Yes, I think sacrifice it on the other fur. The lb can see it cus it should be on that hill.

 

[WastinTime]

I hope I didn't screw the pooch with the triremes. We have to maintain sea superiority or the war will be that much more painful.

Don't sweat it. We can board the (only) healthy musket and the chariot into the farthest north galley and sail back--just barely making it--4 tiles away. With our Trireme returned to our culture, I guarantee his Tri's go for the galley.

157 we can drop the 2 units and run away.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Woohoo, Mesa Verde down!

 

[Mitchum]

Yes, I think sacrifice it on the other fur. The lb can see it cus it should be on that hill.

The Dog is lurking around somewhere too. Either way, we can take another unit off the map.

 

[Mitchum]

Don't sweat it. We can board the (only) healthy musket and the chariot into the farthest north galley and sail back--just barely making it--4 tiles away. With our Trireme returned to our culture, I guarantee his Tri's go for the galley.

157 we can drop the 2 units and run away.

Drop the 2 units at Mound City-W+SW, yes? So the galley would move N+N+NE this turn and SE+NW+SW next turn.

 

[Mitchum]

Woohoo, Mesa Verde down!

It was a bit overkill but it did make the LB leave MC since he no longer felt threatened so maybe it was good all around, especially if we can catch the LB on flat land outside a city.

 

[Mitchum]

I have to repair a water leak. We had two guys digging for the fence and they broke a main line.

I can put up a PPP for the next 5 turns tomorrow and hopefully get it approved and play by Friday and then hand off the save.

I think the plan is pretty straight forward with the keys to our cities being the Sushi spread plan and getting CHs in place to stop the bleeding.

I could use ideas on the SB war campaign beyond just the next turn. Do we collapse all units toward MC and Cahokia?

What do we do with our GG, cats and 3 muskets in our core (no easy and safe way to get them to SB)?

Keep research at 0% until Peter picks? This buys us time on the GM trade mission.

Other ideas?