SGOTM2 Germany - Team Ankka

[I. Larkin]

@Mabellino
Some tips to increase income:
Disband Units vigorsly! The less unints we have the more income. (French catapults in Rheims, archer and Cat in Ptrsbrg, Knight and Pick in Vladivostok, Units in Norwich ASAP, etst..) Continue scouting with Galleys and trade WM. Use Sea tiles, barb Galleys will not attack then. Settle ASAP (North of New Hamburg and between Coventry-Leeds- Nottingham). Hope you have your ideas, write, please.
Ivan

 

[King Alexander]

@mabellino: I'm following this thread, don't worry! I guess, I had bad luck. Ivan knows what he's doing; I think you can make it! Victory is not far away!

 

[I. Larkin]

I ran mapstat and it says:
Dom limit: 1641
Acqu tiles 992
Tiles to lim 649
Population:
Dom limit: 401
Pop 340
Pop to limit 61

 

[I. Larkin]

I ran mapstat and it says:
Dom limit: 1641
Acqu tiles 992
Tiles to lim 649
Population:
Dom limit: 401
Pop 340
Pop to limit 61

Actually that makes Domination problematic. Since total area of standart map 5000 tiles this Domination limit asume that total "Land+coast" approximatly 2500, so it is 50% land, not 40% as I thought before. Looking by eay that mean that there is some unknown land at black area of about 100 tiles. My parquet plan will gives us about 350 tiles but I have no idea how to get extra 300. We can settle inbetween India-Japan, but it will give about 100 tiles only. It looks that for domination we have to consider some overseas war and/or find unknown land and settle there.

 

[I. Larkin]

@Mabellino. Some smal tip to increase income:
Settle French workers in Kenig. Mcmng Munich-Kenig to 0 growth and max gold. When you will play?

 

[mabellino]

Oh no that domination limit is going to be a problem!
Sorry you've had no feedback for a few days I've been addicted to BigBrother! I'm in the middle of some planning for this game... I'll post it this afternoon and we can discuss it before playing.

Hi Alex! glad you're still keeping an eye on us!

 

[mabellino]

Actually that makes Domination problematic. Since total area of standart map 5000 tiles this Domination limit asume that total "Land+coast" approximatly 2500, so it is 50% land, not 40% as I thought before. Looking by eay that mean that there is some unknown land at black area of about 100 tiles. My parquet plan will gives us about 350 tiles but I have no idea how to get extra 300. We can settle inbetween India-Japan, but it will give about 100 tiles only. It looks that for domination we have to consider some overseas war and/or find unknown land and settle there.

I've just spent a few hours playing with photoshop and I count 319 available land tiles and around 155 coast tiles just on our continent! Total=474.
We need 173 tiles and I think these can be obtained by settling in the unclaimed areas on the next continent and possibly on the island I see lurking off the coast near New Nuremburg. War might not be necessary but if it is, the Indians have enough tiles and are fairly weak.

Bring on operation culture rush!

See attached jpgs for how I worked it out...

 

[King Alexander]

Guys I've managed to run my computer again(though, I'm not sure for how long!!! After so many problems in the past months, I don't trust my computer anymore!).
I could play after mabellino, if you haven't found another player(I just hate to leave something in the middle).

 

[mabellino]

[dance] Hooray King Alex is back!
Right first assignment... look at the pics in my post above and tell me if I've missed any claimable tiles! Next see if you can work out how many coast tiles we will gain access to.
Glad you've got your PC fixed.... nothing worse than some little b@stard virus writer spoiling all your civ related fun... grrr!
You can play before me if you want? I'm a bit tied up with some real life stuff (like my upcoming wedding!) that needs attention so I think both Ivan and I will really welcome some extra input.
All we need now is for Ankka to come back from his jollies and the whole team will be able to submit that victory save!

 

[King Alexander]

@mabellino: I didn't knew that you're going to be married! That leaves me out of the picture! :suicide:
I wish you the best and may you be happy with your knight forever!

I'll take a look at the save tomorrow, and read your comments/suggestions.

As for my PC, it's working ok for the time being, but I wouldn't be surprised if anything else happens : I just had too many problems in the past few months to trust it anymore.

EDIT: I can't play today, and I'm not sure for tomorrow(Monday). Can you wait, or Ivan wants to play?

 

[I. Larkin]

EDIT:[/B] I can't play today, and I'm not sure for tomorrow(Monday). Can you wait, or Ivan wants to play?

Why Ivan? If Alex can't Mabellino will play. Moreover, I have no objection if Alex will play after Mabellino. Please, go ahead, I submited my file June 15, 5 days ago...

 

[King Alexander]

Ok, Ivan, mabellino could play: if she can't, I'll play tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[I. Larkin]

1)I've just spent a few hours playing with photoshop and I count 319 available land tiles and around 155 coast tiles just on our continent! Total=474.
2)We need 173 tiles and I think these can be obtained by settling in the unclaimed areas on the next continent and possibly on the island I see lurking off the coast near New Nuremburg.
3)War might not be necessary but if it is, the Indians have enough tiles and are fairly weak.

Bring on operation culture rush!

See attached jpgs for how I worked it out...

1) Grate work, Mabellino!
Did you count Oxford area? (I think yes, if you count 319). I checked your pictures and found 34 more costal tiles wich will covered when Cities reach 37 tiles border. So total is 508 and we need 139 overseas tiles.
2) Barbarians Galleys come from New Hannover area, so Island with barb camp should be somewhere around. Check this area first.
3)Since it will take some time (more then 34 turns, I think) to settle overseas I suppose that we do not need Temples, just Libs in each Cities. (Acctually not, Orlean for example do not need Lib). It needs modest income to rush Libs..
Therefore we can increase research rate to 30-40% say, to get GP and MT soonner (just in case...)

 

[mabellino]

I'm pleased I've been able to contribute some meaningful discussion at last!
I'll be able to play next as long as we can agree on our next priority. I agree we should think about increasing research soon so that we can have cavalry to take out any rebels that will not bow to our superiority!
Monday nights are difficult for me but tuesday should be fine. I'll probably be taking a day off work this week (wed?) so if all else fails I'll be able to play then.
I counted all the tiles that have been marked with red/blue dots. I had to use screen grabs cos it was impossible to do it on the civ 3 screen, my monitor still has lots of little blue biro dots on it! Still I'm sure I'll find something at work tomorrow to get rid of them! (I work in a chemistry lab btw)

Has anyone else been having civ dreams recently?

 

[mabellino]

@mabellino: I didn't knew that you're going to be married! That leaves me out of the picture! :suicide:
I wish you the best and may you be happy with your knight forever!

Knight???? Only the best Sipahi for me!

I'm joking too!

Alex, if he jilts me I'll come a looking for you!
We'll be honeymooning in Cyprus next May

 

[King Alexander]

Has anyone else been having civ dreams recently?

I'm having civ dreams while I'm awake!!!! Should I go to a doctor?(mad-doctor, that is...)

 

[King Alexander]

Alex, if he jilts me I'll come a looking for you!

Does this mean that I have a chance?
I'll be waiting for you until my bitter end comes!!!!!!!!

Ok, let's get back to topic.

 

[mabellino]

Oh but off topic is so much fun.... watch out for the mods though!

Seriously now, have you had any thoughts on what our next plan should involve? I think Ivan's plan for the settling/library rush is still doable but do you guys think a conquest victory might be quicker?
We have the great lighthouse which gives us a huge advantage over the other continent. Indians will be wiped out soon by the japs/chinese and the English/Russians won't last long against our units. What do you reckon? (both of you?)

 

[King Alexander]

I haven't thought much about our situation. Let's proceed with Ivan's plan and if need more land for domination, we'll have to fight someone

First we'll need to expand to our continent and occupy all the land, make strong cities, able to support a good flaw of military units and then we can start thinking about taking on someone else.

btw: I haven't yet looked at the save. I'll take a look tomorrow, though.

 

[I. Larkin]

1)I'm pleased I've been able to contribute some meaningful discussion at last!
2)I'll be able to play next as long as we can agree on our next priority. I agree we should think about increasing research soon so that we can have cavalry to take out any rebels that will not bow to our superiority!
3)Monday nights are difficult for me but tuesday should be fine. I'll probably be taking a day off work this week (wed?) so if all else fails I'll be able to play then.
4)I counted all the tiles that have been marked with red/blue dots.

1)You say very little, but meanigful, belive me. I really need constructive feedback, you know.
2) Preorities
2a) Rush libs (It is only few left)
2b)Scouting around New Hannover
2c) Eleminate Russians
2d) Eliminate English
2e)Research (I checked 40% -GP 5 turns 50% 4 turns, so we 22-30 turns from MT!
3) 8 days it is very long break. If Allex will not play tomorrow before his midnight I will consider it as "All skip" and will play myself my Monday night. If he will play Monday you will play Tue-Wed.
4) there is no picture with Oxford, because of that I asked.
Edit: Found it now.
I add yellow dots that you missed. And cross black that appear at another picture...