SGOTM8 - Cutlery

[Tubby Rower]

Spoiler turnlog :

t0 - bump science to 60% to shave another turn off of

Literature (due in 5)
MM WSton for T3

t1 - move some warriors around
start roading & choping by Chicago Cutlery
start roading at WFCity
Move archer into Greek territory
MM WSton for T4

t2 - Requested to leave Greek soil, sure we will
Rome builds Collosus
Chinese are building ToA
WSton setter -> settler
MM WSton for T1
Greek archer watches as our archer schools him on how to use his bow
Idiot Academy spawns worker, hmmm.. call him Igor
move igor down to help improve WFCity
Settler moves N
move archer in Greek territory into Chinese territory and notice that there is

only a reg spear guarding

t3 - Mao requests a leave
moving to a barb camp with a chinese & greek archer all within 1
MM WSton for T2
drop sci to 50% still in 2

t4 - Chinese archer takes out barb camp
Alex wants to trade WM, nope because he is willing to pay up to 26G (ours is

bigger than his)
MM WSton for T3
disbanded 1 warrior in CC for 2 shields for barracks
move out of chinese terr. into greek to prevent the auto-boot order

t5 - see Hoplite/settler pair coming south out of the fog (presumably for the

dyes)
Lit in -> Math @ 70% gets it in 6 turns
PHVille archer -> archer
WKBurg archer -> archer
Pearlton worker -> worker
MM WSton for T4
Move archer down out of greece. notice that there is a archer/hoplite/settler

trio coming south too

t6 - greek pair move to the hill SW of dyes. It looks like we knwo who'll be

our first opponent
WSton settler -> setter
MM WSton for T1

t7 - Mao gives us the auto-boot
hoplite pair don't settle
Lawn Guy Land (cute) worker -> worker
MM WFCity for happiness (all roaded tiles)
MM WSton for T2
I notice that Mao is clearing jungle
MAth in 3 now?? @ 70%

t8 - MAo asks us politely to leave
I see a galley leave Canton
Hoplite pair still moving
Idiot Academy worker -> worker hmm...Admiral K.
MM WSton for T3
Found Pseudo-Greek on hill SW of dyes

t9 - Mao gives us auto-boot
Mao has a worker for sale
reduce sci to 50% -18gpt with 18G in the bank MAth next turn whew!
MM WSton for T4

t10 - Math in -> constrcan be changed
WSton settler -> settler
MM WSton for T1
PHVille archer -> archer
Greeks are building ToA
Athens finished the Oracle

We have a city near the dyes and 2 workers roading to it. Also two workers are roading to the dyes. We have an average military vs. MAo and a weak vs. Alex. Mao has a city on the island East of Canton. There are two settlers to move (one in the Alps & one just produced in WSton). There is also a worker in Chicago Cutlery (CC) that needs to be moved. I didn't know what to do with him so I didn't.

I don't know if this settlers coming out should beef up some towns or if we need more cities.

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[Admiral Kutzov]

lurker's comment: building the post count and spamming tonight. SW already received his promotion in another thread. Tubby's never admitted any idiocy so no promotion. By executive fiat, BeF gets a promotion to Commandant of Cadets at the Academy. I'd like to shadow this. Can someone post the current save to the server and then PM me so I can DL it? I promise I won't give it to the other teams. BTW, post 4 is about the most professional i've ever seen. It must be the radiation.

 

[Minute Man]

Welcome back, Admiral. Be more careful with the pointy things this time around, will you?

Looks pretty good, Tubby. Good job on grabbing the dyes out from under the AI's nose. We can really use the extra happiness.

More cities is always good, but it looks like we're running out of places to put them. Merging settlers into existing cities is kind of a waste, though. If nothing else, save them for replacing razed (auto- or otherwise) enemy cities.

I'd really much rather take on Mao than Alex right now, both because his territory is closer and because I'd really rather not take on hoplites with archers. Let Alex burn his GA opening up a second front for us.

Are the any wonders we want to target?

No, not right now; I think we're better off building a pile of archers and helping ourselves to Mao's horses (and whatever else he has that isn't nailed down).

 

[jb1964]

eldar - player earlier today
Tubby Rower - played later today
soul_warrior - should be done by morning - UP
Beorn - still showing monkey (my word for mother-in-law) how to type
Minute Man - Provoking Admiral K
jb1964 - Thankful to eldar for the slingshot post. Am I up yet?

 

[eldar]

I'm all for archer-rushing Mao pretty soon. He's got no iron, or at least doesn't seem to, and his horses will get bogged down in all that jungle. Yeah, keep a stock of settler for raze-and-replace.

We can squeeze another city in S of some other dyes, on the river. Suggest we do so and use that city as one of two start-off points for our attack.

Research currency; AI will always go for construction.

 

[soul_warrior]

like eldar said.
currency. town by extra dyes. archer. china.
oh, and got it.

 

[eldar]

Oh, and the reason China and Greece have been quiet on the tech front? I guess they're both still researching Monarchy

 

[Tubby Rower]

Raze & replace is good.

The reason why I mentioned Alex as our first opponent is that I thought that he would be where our Pseudo-Greek town is. If that settler stayed in those hills, we would have almost had to go with Alex first.

MAo has a town on that island to the East in the picture above. We will never be able to get to it via normal means. So I'd suggest backing off science for right now and building up some cash for an embassy with Alex. We can take some of his jungle towns but we really need Canton. After we get Canton we can ask for peace (after 20 turn MA is done. We should get that town out there on that island as TOP priority in peace negotiations.

I'd also suggest buying Mao's WM before the onslaught since he has galleys out. Last I checked he would 16G for a WM trade. Also our military is average against his.

 

[Tubby Rower]

lurker's comment: building the post count and spamming tonight. SW already received his promotion in another thread. Tubby's never admitted any idiocy so no promotion. By executive fiat, BeF gets a promotion to Commandant of Cadets at the Academy. I'd like to shadow this. Can someone post the current save to the server and then PM me so I can DL it? I promise I won't give it to the other teams. BTW, post 4 is about the most professional i've ever seen. It must be the radiation.

I thought that I'd professed my faith in idiocracy. But I'll be baptisted in the Idiot's River to let everyone know. Oh and apparently due to the MTDG, I'm now a numbers geek. Who would've thought.

The save is in the above post. Can you not download the save? I just thought that you couldn't upload it. PLEASE, don't reveal ANY information from your shadowing. It could be considered spoilerish and no one likes spoiled idiots.

I can PM Alan if you want to be a "Lurking" member playing a turnset when the mood hits you. If you do the latter then no replaying or playing ahead until the game is over.

 

[eldar]

I'm not so sure about signing an MA with Alex. We're going to have to fight him eventually, and letting him cherry-pick the best Chinese cities (Beijing is tasty! prime Forbidden Palace location!) might backfire on us in the long run.

We'll be able to handle Mao ourselves.

 

[jb1964]

Signing Alex up for a MA prevents Mao from doing the same. What is the risk of Mao dragging him in and could we handle both at the same time?

City across the water is top priority. No city, no peace.

 

[Tubby Rower]

jb's point was my main concern about not signing up Alex. On a positive note, if Alex is signed up vs us, then we could grab some of his setters running around.

Also there is a lot of jungle between their cores & ours. so no MA is fine with me. I'm just skeered.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Roster check:

eldar - successful in Philo-> Rep trick
Tubby Rower - just started roading to 2 lux
soul_warrior - recently promoted up
Beorn - ghost writing for monkey on deck
Minute Man - pleased with the clarity of recent posts
jb1964 - glad he doesn't have to go back & play those turns

 

[soul_warrior]

like i said earlier, i have it. will most likely play tomorrow, so i can devote all my energies to it.
regarding the MA issue with alex. i think i WONT be able to comfortably handle both, so i would let alex have some chinese takeaway for dinner.
we'll still have apple pie for desert later on.
and alex burning his GA on china seems very nice indeed.

 

[Minute Man]

I still like the idea of a MA vs. Mao. I don't really want to risk taking on both of our neighbors at once, especially since they both have better troops than we do. Alex in particular could have swords, horses, and hoplites. Even if he does take a few Chinese cities, I still think it'll make our job much easier to have help.

 

[eldar]

and alex burning his GA on china seems very nice indeed.

Okay, that's sold me Is there any way to check if two civs have an embassy with each other? If they don't, then we don't necessarily need to worry about Alex, just yet.

 

[Tubby Rower]

like i said earlier, i have it.

I was just posting the roster to keep it up to date and let people know where they stand in line. Don't rush it.

I think that we ought to stop playing once it gets to the end because people will see that we haven't uploaded a save in a while and start to get nervous. Team klarius has already questioned Wacken's tremendous rise in score in the maintenance thread. It's funny how paranoid some people are.

 

[Tubby Rower]

I was just looking at the culture graph and it appears as though we are the only team to be a republic. It will be interesting to see how much everyone elses drops to see about anarchy periods. So far no one has built a single cultural building other than the palace they started with.

 

[Tubby Rower]

I also found the iron on our continent. It's just north of Athens, west of Sparta and east of Corinth.

Alex's horses are under the city of Thermopylae.

There's no other luxes except the gems, dyes & Alex's vino.

Hopefully Alex will cross the river and then we can get on that continent once we take him on. We'll need to go against Alex before knights too. Since he has the only source of iron. He's going to dominate once the MA come around.

 

[eldar]

I also found the iron on our continent. It's just north of Athens, west of Sparta and east of Corinth.

I already found it, you obviously weren't reading my turn log