SheepNES: Alternative Cold War

[Sheep]

Sudan: Sudan govt, Jangaweed Arab militas vs Baggara, Fur, and Massalit groups in Darfur

Uganda: Lords Resistance Army vs Govt

Ivorian Civil War:

Chad Sudan Conflict: Sudan, Jangaweed militas vs Chad (seems to have petered out recently, still cross border attacks by militas on refugee camps)

Somali Civil War: UIC vs Interim govt, Ethiopia, vs warlords and clan leaders

India: Naxalites vs Indian govt (still going strong, a reveleoutionary zone extending acorss North Eastern India, all the way down south)

India: Assam Liberation Front vs Indian govt (most surrendered, occasional outbursts, many allegations of human rights abuses)

India: Naga rebels vs Indian govt (rare, usually quite heavily supressed,many allegations of human rights abuses )

India: Mizo rebels vs Indian govt (rare, usually quite heaviy supressed, many allegations of human rights abuses)

India: Khalistan Liberation Front vs Indian govt (mostly crushed, many hiding abroad, dead or in jail)

China: Xijiang rebels vs Chinese govt (heavily supressed)



No finished



Yes Tibetan covertly Indian backed rebels vs Chinese govt (heavily supressed)

Thanks for all of this, but due to expediency I doubt that most of these will be included, mainly to conserve my personal sanity.

 

[Jack_www]

I think you should include the Somali Civil War and maybe one or two groups in Inida. I think those would make the game interesting.

 

[Captain2]

how about the Chechens?

 

[Sheep]

The map now with insurgencies added.

If anyone spots any glaring ommissions in relation to insuregencies and the like the time to speak is NOW

 

[Warman17]

One thing: Puntland(the brown in Somalia) should expand past that jagged edge of Ethiopia thats jutting into Somalia, and the land west of Puntland which is marked as part of Somalia is really de facto Somaliland which has't been recognized by any nation.

 

[silver 2039]

The insurgency across Arunachul Pradesh is wrong. Really there are no major insurgencies in India. Assam is defunct, Naga and Mizo have resigned themsleves to peaceful protest.

The only ones remaning are the Naxalaites (commounist rebels).

Although committed to the original strategy of eliminating the feudal order in rural India, they parted ways on the question of tactics - one group of followers deciding to lay stress on the parliamentary path of elections (e.g. the Liberation group of the CPI - M-L, concentrated in Bihar), and the others preferring to go back to the path of guerilla warfare, like the PWG - People's War Group - in Andhra Pradesh, and MCC - Maoist Communist Centre - in Bihar. During the last two decades since the 1980s, these two different streams of the Naxalite movement drifted along with their respective tactics – often fighting among themselves.


But during this period, it is these armed groups which have emerged as the main challenge to the Indian state. They have also expanded their area of operations (from their old pockets in West Bengal, Bihar and Andhra Pradesh in the 1970s) to new guerilla zones in other states like Orissa, Maharashtra, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh in the new millennium. Their main support base in these states are the poorest and the most deprived classes – the landless and tribal people who are ousted from their homes by up-coming industrial projects, are being denied access to their traditional forest resources, regularly exploited by landowners and money lenders and persecuted by the police, and who continue to suffer from non-availability of education and health facilities in their far-flung and inaccessible villages.


Apart from expanding their guerilla zones within India, the PWG, MCC and other smaller armed Communist groups have been able to build a network with similar Communist revolutionary organizations in the neighbouring states of Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Nepal under the banner of the Coordination Committee of Maoist Parties and Organizations of South Asia. Their representatives met in a guerilla zone in eastern India in July 2003, to chalk out future strategy of coordination of their activities. All these South Asian Maoist parties are also members of a larger international organization called the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement.

It should be pointed out however that despite their survival for almost four decades, the Naxalites do not yet control any large area comparable to the `liberated zone' that the Chinese Communists could establish in Yenan within a decade or so in the 1930-40 period, or the sizable tract that the Maoists occupy in neighbouring Nepal today. They have not been able to reach out to the masses of the peasantry in the vast countryside of other parts of India, and have expanded only to a few isolated pockets and stretches of areas inhabited mainly by tribal and landless poor. Closeted in their rural underground shelters, the Naxalite leaders have ignored the task of setting up bases among the large number of workers both in the organized industrial and the unorganized sectors. They have also failed to build up a regular army like the Chinese People's Liberation Army, or the Vietnamese military organization – that helped both the Chinese and the Vietnamese to effectively fight their enemies.

These shortcomings have both crippled and distorted the character of the Naxalite movement. The failure to establish a `liberated zone' has frustrated their original strategy of setting up an alternative order to bring about agrarian and social reforms. Instead, all their energies are now devoted to defensive actions to preserve their pockets of influence, and offensive assaults which are degenerating into acts of terrorism against soft targets like village headmen or junior government employees.

That basically sums up the major points of the current Naxal movement.

 

[Sheep]

Map has been corrected for these changes... will post new map before too long, any other changes?

 

[Sheep]

Playable Nations

North America and Carribean

Canada
United States of America -RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Bahamas
Mexico
Cuba
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Jamaica
Beliza
Guatemala
Honduras
El Salvador
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Panama
St. Kitts and Nevis
Antigua and Barbuda
Dominica
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and The Grenadines
Barbados
Grenada

South America

Colombia
Venezuela
Guyana
Suriname
Ecuador
Peru
Bolivia
Paraguay
Chile
Uruguay
Argentina
Brazil

Europe

Iceland
United Kingdom - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Ireland
The Netherlands
Belgium
France - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Luxembourg
Spain
Portugal
Andorra
Monaco
Germany - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Austria
Italy
Slovenia
Hungary
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Croatia
Bosnia and Herzgovina
Serbia
Montenegro
Albania
Macedonia
Bulgaria
Romania
Greece
Malta
Vatican City
Cyprus
Moldova
Transnistria - (non recognised sepratist Republic from Moldova)
Ukraine
Belarus
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Russian Federation - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE


Middle East (including Egypt)

Turkey
Georgia
Abkhazia (unrecognised seperatist Republic from Georgia)
South Ossetia (unrecognised seperatist Republic from Georgia)
Chechnya (unrecognised seperatist Republic from Russia)
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Syria
Iraq
Lebanon
Israel - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Palestinian Authority
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Kuwait
Iran
Bahrain
Qatar
United Arab Emirates
Oman
Yemen
Turkmenistan
Afghanistan
Uzbekistan
Tajikistan
Krgyzstan
Kazakhstan
Pakistan - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE

Asia

India - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Nepal
Bhutan
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka
Maldives
Burma
Thailand
Laos
Cambodia
Vietnam
Malaysia
Singapore
Brunei
Philipines
People’s Republic of China - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
Republic of China
Indonesia
East Timor
Japan - RESERVED FOR MOD CHOICE
North Korea
South Korea

Pacific Ocean

Papua New Guinea
Australia
New Zealand
Solomon Islands
Vanuatu
Fiji
Tuvalu
Nauru
Palau
Federated States of Micronesia
Marshall Islands
Tonga
Samoa
Tuvalu

Africa (excluding Egypt)

Libya
Tunisia
Algeria
Morocco
Western Sahara
Mauritania
Mali
Senegal
The Gambia
Casamance (unrecognised Seperatist Republic from Senegal)
Guinea-Bissau
Guinea
Sierra Leone
Liberia
Cote D’Ivorie
Burkina Faso
Ghana
Togo
Benin
Nigeria
Equatorial Guinea
Sao Tome and Principe
Mali
Niger
Chad
Central African Republic
Republic of the Congo
Gabon
Cameroon
Sudan
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Uganda
Kenya
Rwanda
Burundi
Tanzania
Ethiopia
Eritrea
Djibouti
Somaliland (Somalia)
Puntland (Somalia)
Union of Islamic Courts (Somalia)
Transitional Government of Somalia (Somalia)
Cabinda (unrecognised seperatist Republic from Angola)
Angola
Zambia
Mozambique
Malawi
Zimbabwe
Botswana
Namibia
South Africa
Lesotho
Swaziland
Madagascar
Comoros
Mauritius
Seychelles

 

[Jack_www]

So does this mean we will start soon?

 

[Sheep]

Map to the north has been edited to the latest version. Rules are being done as we speak.

 

[Luckymoose]

i am IRAN! unless some power isn't taken and you need a player for it.

 

[Sheep]

I am NOT accepting reservations still. I gave that list for people to start thinking about this, and also so people can see how many stats I need to do before this is launched.

 

[Jack_www]

Is Taiwan on that list?

 

[Sheep]

Republic of China.

 

[Kentharu]

yea... commies own like that

 

[silver 2039]

Thats a lot of nations are you going to be making stats for all of them?

I suggest you merge a lot of the smaller nations to larger ones. Like Liechestein to Switzerland, Luxemborg to Netherlands, maybe united some of the African and Central American countries. It would make things easier on you. It would be a monster dealing with the stats for those NPC's.

 

[Sheep]

I am making stats for ALL nations. Of course some of the smaller nations unless being played, for example Barbados, wont need much maintanice, as their stats wont change all that much.

 

[Symphony D.]

Decloak: Chechnya is conspicuously absent from the list of seperatists.

 

[silver 2039]

Are you basing that stats off Gelion and Stormbringers modern world NES's? I believe Stormbringer had all of them though his stats were quite extensive...

Morocco (incl. West Sahara)

The status of Western Sahara is uncertain but a number of AU countries have recongnized the Sahawari Democratic Republic so you should proably make Western Sahara seperate.\

Also the LRA is more in northern Uganda.

From BBC

The president came under fire for Uganda's military involvement, along with five other countries, in neighbouring DR Congo's 1998-2003 civil war. DR Congo accuses Uganda of maintaining its influence in the mineral-rich east of the country. Uganda says DR Congo has failed to disarm Ugandan rebels on its soil.

At home, the cult-like Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has perpetrated massacres and mutilations in the north for nearly two decades.

 

[Gelion]

Here are my rules suggestions:

Economy:
Storm came up with a good system:
GNP (in dollars or global curency units) and % taken from that to be avaliable for government spending.
This allows for greater flexibility, but is a paint in terms of managing numbers. Whats good about this system is that it shows the power of actual economies. This means that a government could technicaly "squeeze" some resources out of their countries economy.
Other good old system includes "spending points" and economy levels in words.
I'd choose the first system as it is more "realistic", however having a second one might be better if you dont want to spend that much time on economy each update.

Military
Here's where it starts to get tricky. On one hand we want a good representation of worlds military. On the other it is THE worst part of the stats to mod.
Under ANY circumstances the military stats will be divided into 3,4 or 5 parts:
Arm, Navy, Airforce and Rocket Forces (+ Space Forces in few cases). Aready its a bit much to manage.
Then I'd preferr to use the number system, not the divisional system. Divisional system is good for Napoleonic era or even WW2. Modern warfare is a lot more complicated to be satisfied with divisions. However they are great if a mod wants to save time.
Designs
Designs are tricky in historical industrial/modern NESes. I think the best choice is to pick about 5 good designs for majour powers, one or two for smaller powers. Everything else should be desigend during the game.
Nuclear weapons should be divided into 3 categories by range and into 3-4 by payload.

Everything Else:
Government/Ruler/Stability/Popularity - all clear all should stay.
Industries - I say take it off. Industries should be replaced by economy.
Literacy - as you wish. I'd keep it, possibly in word levels.
Trade.... possibly introduce in spending points or in revenue (which could be negative). List 3 largest trading partners.
Projects - as usual. I'd have both time and money used.
And one extra stat, something along the lines "additional comments" to show the mood, political situation and other things inside the country for example "tiredness of the Iraq War"

Thats all from me right now.