Ship Units

[Walter Hawkwood]

How about blocking building of naval combat units until the eras which the civs were actually ready to field naval forces? (Let everyone build work boats and galleys)

{My apologies if I slighted anyone through insufficient research}

Ancient - Greece, Rome, Persia, Carthage, Egyptian

Classical - Celtic

Medieval - England, France, Germany, Viking, China, Japan, Korea

Renaissance - America, Spain, Russia, Turks

Industrial - Aztec, Inca, Mali, Zulu, Arabs, India, Mongols (for the civs that never really had much of a navy)

The late comers will find the overlooked techs relatively cheap and allow them to catch-up fairly quickly.

Sounds like a bad idea. I wouldn't like to be thrown out of the seas if playing India, for example. Although, an ancient war ship more generic than trireme would be nice, current system is the best we can have now. A major ship overhaul is coming, but it will touch later ships more.

 

[Vertico]

current system is the best we can have now.

No it is not. Destroyer sunk by band of three galeons?! Come on!!

 

[Anaztazioch]

Maybe galleon had A-Bombs in its cannons and Mel Gibson as Captian

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

I don't see any point in arguing here. We all know that current ship balance is far from ideal, and that something will be done with it in the future. Maybe near future.

 

[Harrier]

No it is not. Destroyer sunk by band of three galeons?! Come on!!

A few years ago (3 or 4 years only, I can not remember exactly.) 2 Somolian basic fishing boats with simple engines, and only about 6 somalie pirates on each boat, tried to attack a Modern ( about 2 years old) American Cruise liner (With about 500 people on board). They used Rocket propelled grenades, machine guns, automatic weapons etc. They almost succeded.

Except this Cruise ship had a Sonic Gun - one of the very few that have. But it only just worked, as the operators of the gun were all injured by gunfire and nearly died.

Unfortunately they, having survived their wounds are now all nearly deaf because of the Sonic Gun.

So 3 Galleons sinking a Destroyer is not that impossible. It is not the age of the ship - it is what else it may be carrying that is important.

 

[Vertico]

They almost succeded.

In Poland they say: "Almost make a big difference" and there were serie of funny commercials about it:
"prawie jak" = "almost like"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTklwiaFiNc
http://www.zywiec.com.pl/zywiec_root/zywe_obrazy/mpg/prawie2_markowe.mpg
http://www.zywiec.com.pl/zywiec_root/zywe_obrazy/mpg/prawie2_hifi.mpg
http://www.zywiec.com.pl/zywiec_root/zywe_obrazy/mpg/prawie2_didzej.mpg

or parodies, like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0c2_4JWllM

 

[demeryt]

Except this Cruise ship had a Sonic Gun - one of the very few that have. But it only just worked, as the operators of the gun were all injured by gunfire and nearly died.

Unfortunately they, having survived their wounds are now all nearly deaf because of the Sonic Gun.

This sounds crazy, man, like a line from a comedy movie, oh irony
What on earth is a sonic gun? Do military vessels also possess these or they're restricted to cruise liners only?

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

This sounds crazy, man, like a line from a comedy movie, oh irony
What on earth is a sonic gun? Do military vessels also possess these or they're restricted to cruise liners only?

You might want to check for yourself. It is interesting to know that the first working prototypes of such things were manufactured in Franco's Spain in the 1970's.