Should you report Cannibis dealing?

[BvBPL]

If the neighbors are not shoveling their walks or stinking up hallways with marijuana then we already know what quality they are. Just a question of how to deal with them.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If the neighbors are not shoveling their walks or stinking up hallways with marijuana then we already know what quality they are. Just a question of how to deal with them.

Rhiiiiiiite. Because nothing says "just contemptible" like ice on a sidewalk or a whiff in a hallway. Call the quality judges, please. I'd like a full inspection of BvBPL.

Actually I wouldn't. I'll give the benefit of the doubt here.

 

[BvBPL]

I defer to your superior expertise regarding falling repeatedly on your head from walking on ice another party didn't clear off.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I defer to your superior expertise regarding falling repeatedly on your head from walking on ice another party didn't clear off.

Who said anything about falling on my head? I generally landed on a piece of my anatomy I try very hard to keep my head out of, actually. Walking on ice in such a casual manner that one falls on their head would be something between 'arrogant' and 'stupid'.

 

[Farm Boy]

If the neighbors are not shoveling their walks or stinking up hallways with marijuana then we already know what quality they are. Just a question of how to deal with them.

Trick is, no, you don't know. You don't know if they've been working nights because they're in debt, or their sister is. You don't know if they're fighting with depression. Or back pain. Or age. You don't know a damned thing about why somebody isn't clearing their sidewalk other than it isn't being done to your satisfaction. That's the sort of thing you learn by being neighborly. There's almost always a mutually beneficial, or at least mostly beneficial solution to be worked out. Sometimes, code enforcement may wind up being necessary. That said, the only person whose quality is definite here are the mean of spirit whose preferred interaction with their neighbors is enforcement. Caveat here again those struggling with mental illness in such a fashion as to render it relevant to this, sadly, not really hypothetical situation.

 

[Zelig]

You really believe that there is a significant difference between code enforcement officers and cops?

What do you think happens when bylaw authorities are informed of uncleared sidewalks?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What do you think happens when bylaw authorities are informed of uncleared sidewalks?

Considering that you were just complaining about me having answered that before, it surprises me that you want to hear it again.

The world is full of people who firmly believe that "I will call people who if you do not comply with my wishes will seize your property, incarcerate you, or possibly shoot you dead as a doornail," isn't violence on their part just because their hands are clean at the end of the day. I find that revolting so I point it out regularly.

Especially so since you already provided the detailed version of step one of the property seizure.

the city sends out workers to clear the sidewalks and then bills them for the time.

 

[Zelig]

If you're going to map out the twenty or so steps there, step one is you not clearing the sidewalk, and you may as well start referring to the person who reports you, and every public sector employee as cops as well.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If you're going to map out the twenty or so steps there, step one is you not clearing the sidewalk, and you may as well start referring to the person who reports you, and every public sector employee as cops as well.

Public sector employees involved in the enforcement of law are cops. The standard term for the person who reports you is "confidential informant," or rat for short.

 

[Berzerker]

If the neighbors are not shoveling their walks or stinking up hallways with marijuana then we already know what quality they are. Just a question of how to deal with them.

tell the owner, not the cops

Jesus, show some respect for other peoples property while complaining about your hallway

 

[Zelig]

Firefighters: Cops who use violence against you when you refuse to deal with a fire hazard you're responsible for.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Firefighters: Cops who use violence against you when you refuse to deal with a fire hazard you're responsible for.

Those are fire marshals, not fire fighters, at least in most departments.

I have nothing against fire marshals, by the way. They come around on a schedule, do inspections that can bring attention to things that need fixing, and in every encounter I had with them they were uniformly courteous. They are cops though, of a sort.

 

[Zelig]

Snowplow operators: Cops who use violence when you park in a snow route.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Snowplow operators: Cops who use violence when you park in a snow route.

Are you thinking this is making a point, or is this just more of the fluff and nonsense like the whole "even though I can't be bothered making any kind of request let's talk about the hypothetical that they have refused multiple requests" bit?

The snowplow operator, if he has the authority to write tickets, is functioning as a cop. That isn't really in question, is it?

 

[Zelig]

Librarians: Cops who use violence when you don't return your books on time.

 

[Narz]

Librarians: Cops who use violence when you don't return your books on time.

Hardly, I owe fines (less than $5 most of them) in at least five states.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Are you thinking this is making a point, or is this just more of the fluff and nonsense like the whole "even though I can't be bothered making any kind of request let's talk about the hypothetical that they have refused multiple requests" bit?

Librarians: Cops who use violence when you don't return your books on time.

Guess that answers that.

 

[Borachio]

Hardly, I owe fines (less than $5 most of them) in at least five states.

That's the point though. The levying of fines is, apparently, the direct use of violence (by other means).

Library fines are hardly going to warrant the intervention of law enforcement, of course, because they're usually of such low amounts and it would scarcely be worth the trouble. But in principle they operate just like any other sanction, and, *in principle* are backed by the threat of violence, in the final analysis.

There was someone really famous actually went to jail for defacing a library book. I honestly can't remember who it was now.

 

[Zelig]

University registrars: Cops who use violence when you don't pay your tuition.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The levying of fines is, apparently, the direct use of violence (by other means).

Not necessarily. The only means of collection backing the library fines is suspension of privilege at the library, so there is no threat of violence involved.

When the fines are backed by lien against property, followed by seizure of property, followed by notice of eviction which will be enforced by men with guns the fine becomes an element of an act of violence.