SirJethro
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I doubt the AI had a settler in the canoe since it would have to be unescorted. Good turn, though. If no one else calls a got it in the next few hours I'm going to take it. I want to keep this moving.
SirJethro's DyP II - "The Emperor's New Mod"
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SirJethro
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Question re: Garrisons.....do they heal the same way barracks do?
SirJethro
Paterfamilias
Oops, so in my SP game I'm going around building garrisons and selling my barracks. That would be a bad thing, no?
SirJethro
Paterfamilias
Change of plans....I can't pick it up until Monday. Quokka...you out there?
Not necessarily; it also gives you the 25% bonus to defense from land attacks.
Best is to build the Arc de Triomphe, free garrisons. By then you may have a good enough railnet that you can heal badly wounded units in one or two cities with barracks, while the rest do fine in garrisons.
SirJethro
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My style of play doesn't make the defense bonus worth overcoming the healing bonus. I'm usually very aggressive and try to stay on the offensive. I'm pretty good at minimizing the number of times my cities are attacked. Also, because I'm constantly expanding my borders, by the time I build a garrison, it isn't a border city any more, and isn't that useful. I want something that can quickly heal my offensive units and get them back in the field.
You're right re: the Arc. However, I'm playing a huge map Emperor game, and I lost it to the Zulu who managed to create an 80 shield city in the Medieval era. I also lost Encyclopedia. Grrr. I'm still winning though.
Kal-el
Deity
doesn't the garrison heal your units? it should since it makes veteran units. It is basically an upgraded Barracks, i.e. a barracks with a defensive bonus.
I can pick up the game first thing tomorrow morning.
I can pick up the game first thing tomorrow morning.
pdescobar
Moo, baby. Moo.
Cromag: the build 5 spreadsheet is available at http://www.cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/civ3/download.php?id=4452
That's an attachment to a post in the tester forum; no idea if that will cause any issues. If so, one of us could probably email it to you.
SJ: I always thought garrisons healed just like barracks since, as Kal-el points out, they are a veteran-unit-maker and AFAIK that flag is what enables fast healing. I must admit, though, that I've always just assumed it and never actually tested since all the major wars in my test games have been waged before I built the Arc for my free garrisons.
That's an attachment to a post in the tester forum; no idea if that will cause any issues. If so, one of us could probably email it to you.
SJ: I always thought garrisons healed just like barracks since, as Kal-el points out, they are a veteran-unit-maker and AFAIK that flag is what enables fast healing. I must admit, though, that I've always just assumed it and never actually tested since all the major wars in my test games have been waged before I built the Arc for my free garrisons.
Inherited Turn
Buy TM from Polynesia for 23g
Buy TM from China for 31g
Buy TM from Siam for 14g
Change Kal-el from Guild Hall to Heavy Horseman
Change Oglala from Pikeman to Wiseman
MM SJ Stables to get Aqueduct in 10 at 0 growth. Its at size 7
Change Iron Mountain from Temple to Shrine
Change Tuskany from Heavy Horseman to Aqueduct
Change IOB from Pike to Shrine
MM Tuskany to get Aqueduct in 5 at 0 growth. Its at size 7
Rush Barracks in NBI for 80g
Rush Pikeman in SJ Farms for 130g
1010 Quokkaton HH=>Pikeman
Kal-el HH=>Pikeman
Oglala Wiseman=>Tax Collector
Hunkpapa Tax Collector=>Granary
Dyed Pretty Pikeman=>Aqueduct
Darwin Wind Mill=>Aqueduct
NBI Barracks=>Pikeman
SJ Farms Pikeman=>Harbor
New Jethrovia Harbor=>Wiseman
Rottnest Harbor=>Worker
1020 Iron Mountain Shrine=>Aqueduct
Battle of Little Bighorn
[5/5]HH attacks [7/7]Crossbow and wins taking 4 damage. Promotes to Elite
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and wins taking 1 damage.
Little Bighorn is ours. 4 Workers captures. Temple of Zeus (Temples x2) captured. Atkins diet
LBH =>Wiseman
I We get a lawn and 2nd story on our Palace
Disease in Tuskany
1030 Quokkaton Pike=>Pike
Kal-el Pike=>Pike
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and wins taking 3 damage. Promotes to Elite
I China renews RoP
Disease in Tuskany
Beijing builds Slave Trade Chinese
1040 New Jethrovia Wiseman=>Tax Collector
Rush Granary in Hunkpapa for 140g
Upgrade Warrior in NBI to Medieval Infantry for 80g
Upgrade Spears in IOB to Pikes for 80g (40x2)
1050 Quokkaton Pike=>Guildhall
Kal-el Pike=>Wind Mill
Hunkpapa Granary=>Monument
Hire Tax Collector in Wheat Thins(I love these btw)
Upgrade Warrior from SJ Farms in IOB to Medieval Infantry for 80g
I have 7 Heavy Horsemen in position to attack Bear Butte next turn, unfortunately neither of our Elites are healthy, but they will be available to attack Wounded Knee. The Sioux and Ethiopian borders are connected now, but the Ethiopians still dont have contact. Lets hope they dont get it in the off turn.
1060 Tuskany Aqueduct=>Granary
Rottnest Worker=>Monument
Battle of Bear Butte
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 2 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 0 damage. Promotes to Elite
[4/4]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 0 damage
[4/4]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and loses doing 2 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [1/3]Spear and wins taking 1 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [2/2]Warrior and wins taking 3 damage.
Bear Butte is ours. 4 Workers captured. 8 of 11 resistors. Atkins Diet.
Sphinx(free barracks on continent, obs: Docial Darwinism)
Sun Tzu(half price upgrades, obs: Leadership)
Stonehenge(free granary everywhere, obs: Electricity)
Bear Butte=>Worker
Ethiopia still has no contact with the Sioux.
I GL gives us Scientific Method and Strategy
3 Resistors quelled in Bear Butte
1070 Little Bighorn Wiseman=>Worker
Golden Blubber Wind Mill=>Aqueduct
Rush Aqueduct in Darwin for 160g. Switch back to growth
Rush Aqueduct in SJ Stables for 125g. Switch back to growth
Rush Tax Collector in New Jethrovia for 20g
Move HH into position to attack Wounded Knee next turn, starring 2 of our 3 Elites.
China has a War Galley right next to Hunkpapa. Depending on which way it goes Ill sell them contact or not. They have another by Jungle Island. Discovery of Tibet is not too far off.
I The Chinese War Galley went south towards Tibet
1080 SJ Stables Aqueduct=>Temple
Dyed Pretty Aqueduct=>Temple
Darwin Aqueduct=>Temple
New Jethrovia Tax Collector=>Worker
Battle of Wounded Knee
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and loses doing 3 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Crossbow and wins taking 3 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 1 damage
[7/7]HH attacks [1/4]Spear and wins taking 0 damage
Wounded Knee is ours. The Fragile Sioux are extinct.
Wounded Knee=>Monument
The tip of another island shows south of Wounded Knee
I change all the diets to preserve as many citizens as posible
Change Oglala from Tax Collector to Monument and rush for 115g
Rush Monument in Hunkpapa for 90g
The Chinese are only 1 tile from the Tibetan border so I sell them contact for WM +114g
Trade Siam: Tibet + Dyes + Tea for Gems + 26g
Trade Inca: Tibet for WM + 45g
They are the only civs with gold
Trade Tibet: Alchemy for 295g
Rush Aqueduct in Iron Mountain for 100g
Rush Monument in Rottnest for 130g
IEthiopia declared War on the Incas
1090 Kal-el Wind Mill=>Temple
Oglala Monument=>Tax Collector
Hunkpapa Monument=>Toll House
Tuskany Granary=>Wind Mill
Iron Mountain Aqueduct=>Temple
Rottnest Monument=>Tax Collector
Rush Worker in Bear Butte
1100 Bear Butte Worker=>Worker
Issachia Worker=>Monument
Rush Monument in Wounded Knee for 140g
Notes
Investigate Chamdo for 92g
Garrison: 4 Spearmen, 1 Pioneer
Improvements: Aqueduct, Barracks, Colosseum, Harbor, Library, Monument, Port, Theatre
Size 12. Building a Temple due in 5.
When we invade Tibet I think we should raze this city. The only improvements that dont have culture are Aqueduct, Barracks and Harbor. We get a free Barracks from the Sphinx. If we raze it at capture well get at least 5 workers + Pioneer and we wont have to deal with Resistors which we would just starve anyway. We should also move it onto the Elephants. We would reduce overlap with Tuskany and Dyed Pretty. It would give Tuskany sole use of the northern Rice and would also pick up the southern Rice that is currently not used.
Investigate Iyekundo for 24g (on Big Island)
Garrison: 1 Swordsman, 1 Spear, 1 Trade Ship
Improvements: Colosseum
Size 3. Building a Pioneer in 2 when pop grows.
We are going to need a few more troops over here to take this city. IOB and NBI both have barracks so rush in those cities. I think the Pioneer is to build a city on the southern tip, which would be perfect.
Investigate Leh for 78g
Garrison: 1 Crossbow, 3 Spears, 1 Tribal Guardian, 2 Pioneers, 1 Canoe
Improvements: Academy, Aqueduct, Bazaar, Colosseum, Forge, Library, Monument, Windmill.
Size 10. Building Leonardos Workshop due in 24. 19 of 24spt
This is where we should build the FP. It will be a production powerhouse and being more northerly than Oglala improve corruption in the centre of the island better. All there is to the south is Bear Butte. Wounded Knee is a non issue as its a fishing village. It may even have enough range to affect the Incan island a little when we take that. We also have a 50% chance at a free Bazaar, Forge and Wind Mill.
Tech
After Clockworks there are only 4 more techs before we have to research Education to advance. They are Army Tactics, Architecture, Perspective and Bridge Building. There is only 1 river on the map and that is in China so we dont ever need that and its an optional tech. None of them are pressing, only Army Tactics offers and immediate advantage, Cuirassiers, but the Heavy Horsemen we have are more than enough for this island and 50 shields cheaper so steer away from that one until Tibet is gone. That leaves us Architecture to plod along with.
We should build many Sioux Workers out of the south. They are totally corrupt cities and once Malinese citizens get in there the Workers will no longer be free of maintenance.
SAVE
Buy TM from Polynesia for 23g
Buy TM from China for 31g
Buy TM from Siam for 14g
Change Kal-el from Guild Hall to Heavy Horseman
Change Oglala from Pikeman to Wiseman
MM SJ Stables to get Aqueduct in 10 at 0 growth. Its at size 7
Change Iron Mountain from Temple to Shrine
Change Tuskany from Heavy Horseman to Aqueduct
Change IOB from Pike to Shrine
MM Tuskany to get Aqueduct in 5 at 0 growth. Its at size 7
Rush Barracks in NBI for 80g
Rush Pikeman in SJ Farms for 130g
1010 Quokkaton HH=>Pikeman
Kal-el HH=>Pikeman
Oglala Wiseman=>Tax Collector
Hunkpapa Tax Collector=>Granary
Dyed Pretty Pikeman=>Aqueduct
Darwin Wind Mill=>Aqueduct
NBI Barracks=>Pikeman
SJ Farms Pikeman=>Harbor
New Jethrovia Harbor=>Wiseman
Rottnest Harbor=>Worker
1020 Iron Mountain Shrine=>Aqueduct
Battle of Little Bighorn
[5/5]HH attacks [7/7]Crossbow and wins taking 4 damage. Promotes to Elite
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and wins taking 1 damage.
Little Bighorn is ours. 4 Workers captures. Temple of Zeus (Temples x2) captured. Atkins diet
LBH =>Wiseman
I We get a lawn and 2nd story on our Palace
Disease in Tuskany
1030 Quokkaton Pike=>Pike
Kal-el Pike=>Pike
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and wins taking 3 damage. Promotes to Elite
I China renews RoP
Disease in Tuskany
Beijing builds Slave Trade Chinese
1040 New Jethrovia Wiseman=>Tax Collector
Rush Granary in Hunkpapa for 140g
Upgrade Warrior in NBI to Medieval Infantry for 80g
Upgrade Spears in IOB to Pikes for 80g (40x2)
1050 Quokkaton Pike=>Guildhall
Kal-el Pike=>Wind Mill
Hunkpapa Granary=>Monument
Hire Tax Collector in Wheat Thins(I love these btw)
Upgrade Warrior from SJ Farms in IOB to Medieval Infantry for 80g
I have 7 Heavy Horsemen in position to attack Bear Butte next turn, unfortunately neither of our Elites are healthy, but they will be available to attack Wounded Knee. The Sioux and Ethiopian borders are connected now, but the Ethiopians still dont have contact. Lets hope they dont get it in the off turn.
1060 Tuskany Aqueduct=>Granary
Rottnest Worker=>Monument
Battle of Bear Butte
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 2 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 0 damage. Promotes to Elite
[4/4]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 0 damage
[4/4]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and loses doing 2 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [1/3]Spear and wins taking 1 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [2/2]Warrior and wins taking 3 damage.
Bear Butte is ours. 4 Workers captured. 8 of 11 resistors. Atkins Diet.
Sphinx(free barracks on continent, obs: Docial Darwinism)
Sun Tzu(half price upgrades, obs: Leadership)
Stonehenge(free granary everywhere, obs: Electricity)
Bear Butte=>Worker
Ethiopia still has no contact with the Sioux.
I GL gives us Scientific Method and Strategy
3 Resistors quelled in Bear Butte
1070 Little Bighorn Wiseman=>Worker
Golden Blubber Wind Mill=>Aqueduct
Rush Aqueduct in Darwin for 160g. Switch back to growth
Rush Aqueduct in SJ Stables for 125g. Switch back to growth
Rush Tax Collector in New Jethrovia for 20g
Move HH into position to attack Wounded Knee next turn, starring 2 of our 3 Elites.
China has a War Galley right next to Hunkpapa. Depending on which way it goes Ill sell them contact or not. They have another by Jungle Island. Discovery of Tibet is not too far off.
I The Chinese War Galley went south towards Tibet
1080 SJ Stables Aqueduct=>Temple
Dyed Pretty Aqueduct=>Temple
Darwin Aqueduct=>Temple
New Jethrovia Tax Collector=>Worker
Battle of Wounded Knee
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Spear and loses doing 3 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [4/4]Crossbow and wins taking 3 damage
[5/5]HH attacks [3/3]Spear and wins taking 1 damage
[7/7]HH attacks [1/4]Spear and wins taking 0 damage
Wounded Knee is ours. The Fragile Sioux are extinct.
Wounded Knee=>Monument
The tip of another island shows south of Wounded Knee
I change all the diets to preserve as many citizens as posible
Change Oglala from Tax Collector to Monument and rush for 115g
Rush Monument in Hunkpapa for 90g
The Chinese are only 1 tile from the Tibetan border so I sell them contact for WM +114g
Trade Siam: Tibet + Dyes + Tea for Gems + 26g
Trade Inca: Tibet for WM + 45g
They are the only civs with gold
Trade Tibet: Alchemy for 295g
Rush Aqueduct in Iron Mountain for 100g
Rush Monument in Rottnest for 130g
IEthiopia declared War on the Incas
1090 Kal-el Wind Mill=>Temple
Oglala Monument=>Tax Collector
Hunkpapa Monument=>Toll House
Tuskany Granary=>Wind Mill
Iron Mountain Aqueduct=>Temple
Rottnest Monument=>Tax Collector
Rush Worker in Bear Butte
1100 Bear Butte Worker=>Worker
Issachia Worker=>Monument
Rush Monument in Wounded Knee for 140g
Notes
Investigate Chamdo for 92g
Garrison: 4 Spearmen, 1 Pioneer
Improvements: Aqueduct, Barracks, Colosseum, Harbor, Library, Monument, Port, Theatre
Size 12. Building a Temple due in 5.
When we invade Tibet I think we should raze this city. The only improvements that dont have culture are Aqueduct, Barracks and Harbor. We get a free Barracks from the Sphinx. If we raze it at capture well get at least 5 workers + Pioneer and we wont have to deal with Resistors which we would just starve anyway. We should also move it onto the Elephants. We would reduce overlap with Tuskany and Dyed Pretty. It would give Tuskany sole use of the northern Rice and would also pick up the southern Rice that is currently not used.
Investigate Iyekundo for 24g (on Big Island)
Garrison: 1 Swordsman, 1 Spear, 1 Trade Ship
Improvements: Colosseum
Size 3. Building a Pioneer in 2 when pop grows.
We are going to need a few more troops over here to take this city. IOB and NBI both have barracks so rush in those cities. I think the Pioneer is to build a city on the southern tip, which would be perfect.
Investigate Leh for 78g
Garrison: 1 Crossbow, 3 Spears, 1 Tribal Guardian, 2 Pioneers, 1 Canoe
Improvements: Academy, Aqueduct, Bazaar, Colosseum, Forge, Library, Monument, Windmill.
Size 10. Building Leonardos Workshop due in 24. 19 of 24spt
This is where we should build the FP. It will be a production powerhouse and being more northerly than Oglala improve corruption in the centre of the island better. All there is to the south is Bear Butte. Wounded Knee is a non issue as its a fishing village. It may even have enough range to affect the Incan island a little when we take that. We also have a 50% chance at a free Bazaar, Forge and Wind Mill.
Tech
After Clockworks there are only 4 more techs before we have to research Education to advance. They are Army Tactics, Architecture, Perspective and Bridge Building. There is only 1 river on the map and that is in China so we dont ever need that and its an optional tech. None of them are pressing, only Army Tactics offers and immediate advantage, Cuirassiers, but the Heavy Horsemen we have are more than enough for this island and 50 shields cheaper so steer away from that one until Tibet is gone. That leaves us Architecture to plod along with.
We should build many Sioux Workers out of the south. They are totally corrupt cities and once Malinese citizens get in there the Workers will no longer be free of maintenance.
SAVE
Kal-el
Deity
Got it.
SirJethro
Paterfamilias
Re: garrisons, I think they are working. They just seem to take 1 turn more than I'm expecting. May be me tho.
Kal-el
Deity
1100 AD - Dateline Quokkaton: So begins the reign of First Representative Kal-el el-Kan. The first official action of the new House of Representatives Majority Leader first official action was to train all Spearmen on Home Island with the more advanced Pike. This he said was essential for our continued success. "It is essential for our continued success that we do not leave our guard down just because we have removed the long hated Sioux from our land."
The Tibetan reaction to the Malise military build-up was mixed. High Priest Baadd Lama showed great concern in a recent press release saying, "We are greatly concerned about the recent training exercises that have been going on across our borders. Meanwhile the common citizen on the street had a different opinion. I have a different opinion than the Lamas, said a Tibetan citizen who wished to remain unnamed. I hope the Malise come in here and kick out those theocrats running this country. They have to go!
When asked to comment on such statements the Lama simply had No Comment.
The new House Majority Leader called all such concerns by the Tibetan leadership silly. Thats just silly, we have always had an amiable relationship with our neighbors from Tibet. I only hope that they do not get any crazy ideas and start sending Elephant Riders across our borders. Any such action could be seen as an act of hostility, which we would be forced to respond to, said el-Kan.
Meanwhile in Other News:
The Chinese War Galleys near Sir Jethro have turned north. All eyes on the West Coast follow them in anticipation.
Ethiopias Democratic Leader came to pay respects to the new Senate Leader yesterday. The two leaders discussed possible trade options. Overall the meeting was unsuccessful. I thought they were here to discuss real trade issues, but all they wanted was our territory map. I gave it to them for their World Map, said Kal-el el-Kan.
Horrible news rocked the diamond markets as word that we lost our supply of precious gems reached the Home Island. With the loss of their supply of Gems the people in Bear Butte and Wounded Knee begin to riot.
Even Worse, an emissary from the Theocracy of Siam brought word that the Siamese have inexplicably declared war on us! A Siamese Warrior assaults the island city of Wheat Thins. Thankfully the local militia is able to hold them off.
On a happier front, our Wisemen have discovered the secrets of Clockworks. They suggest that we use that knowledge to build great timekeepers in all our cities to help us stay on time and keep better track of worker production.
The great builder Kalindromedus attempted to build a mighty Cathedral but the walls were too high and they collapsed. I will have to rethink the basic architectural design, this could take a while, said Kalindromedus.
1110 AD Dateline Quokkaton: In response to the riots in the south the House of Representatives passed emergency legislation ordering the luxury rate be increased to 20%. It just seemed like a good thing to do, said Representative Harrier. We didnt want to see similar riots in the northern cities.
The workers outside of IOB have finished their road construction and are now working on building a mine in that same location.
In exchange for Dyes, Tea and our World map the Chinese agree to join us in a military alliance against the Siamese.
Meanwhile in Other News:
The Chinese convince the Inca to join the war against the Siamese.
Kal-el finishes their temple to Allah and begins work on a Guild Hall.
Jungle Island rushes its Pikeman for 40 GP and begins work on a Monument.
Rottnests Tax Collector finally arrives now they are just waiting for their Wiseman.
The people decide to add a third story and a dome to the House of Representatives Building.
1120 AD Dateline Gartokh: Our Pikemen outside the city of Gartokh establish a camp in the local sugar plantation. Inevitably the Tibetans will complain that our soldiers are eating up all the sugar.
Work continues on our infrastructure.
Malise Troops arrive near Sikkim.
Little Bighorn is changed from building a Worker to a Pikeman and is rushed.
In other news:
Quokkaton has finished their Guild Hall and begin work on a Town Clock in an attempt to rival Kal-el in production.
Wounded Knee trains a labor force and begins on another.
The Pikeman in Little Bighorn is finished and they begin work on a Monument.
Golden Blubber finished work on its Aqueduct and starts working on a new Town Clock.
New Jethrovia has trained a work force and begins training a Regiment of Eastern Pikemen to defend itself.
1130 AD Dateline Bangkok: The Siamese people are beginning to grumble about this silly war that their leaders have gotten them into.
Malise Heavy Horsemen encamp in the fields surrounding Sikkim.
In other news:
Dyed Pretty has finished work on its and begins work on a Temple.
Iron Mountain finished its Temple and will begin work on a new Town Clock.
The Incan city of Cuzco has built the Slave Trade.
A Siamese Carrack attacks and Sinks a Chinese War Galley of the coast of Wheat Thins.
Tibetan Elephant Riders are seen in the jungles north of Oglala.
1140 AD Dateline Wheat Thins: A Chinese Carrack attacks and destroys a Siamese War Galley.
Kalindromedus discovers the secret of Architecture and we can now build towering Mosques to Allah.
Meanwhile in a small studio somewhere a lonely artist is working on creating depth and Perspective in his paintings. Who knows maybe someday soon he will be successful.
Sir Jethro finishes the Temple they have been working on and decide to add a Shrine in the Temple Gardens.
Darwin completes its Temple and decides a Town Clock is in order.
The Wiseman shows up at Rottnest, they begin work on a Barracks.
In other News:
Tibet and China have signed a Military Agreement against Siam.
Ethiopia comes looking for a Right of Passage Agreement. We agree in exchange for a trade embargo against Siam.
The Inca come calling saying they want to end our RoP agreement. We convince them to continue it if they give us 2GPT (down from the 3GPT they were giving us) along with a Trade Embargo and Military Alliance against Siam and we give them our World Map.
The Polynesians request a RoP. We agree to it as long as they honor the world trade embargo against the Siamese and give us all 14 gold from their treasury. They accept and we exchange world maps.
Siam does another amphibious assault with a Warrior against our Veteran Spearman in Wheat Thins. Our troops are victorious and attain Elite Status.
1150 AD Dateline Kal-el: Production of the First Town Clock is completed. Local artisans and workers begin establishing guilds.
The people of Sir Jethro Stables are celebrating We love the Mansa Day
We love the Mansa Day celebrated in Darwin.
Tuskany completes construction and begins training some Mujahids.
1160 AD Not much happens in the world.
Polynesia and Siam Declare war on Inca. (this could start getting ugly)
Siam lands a crossbowman near Rottnest. Rottnest changes production from a Barracks to a Pikeman and rushes the training.
Tibet demands we remove our troops. We ignore them causing a war.
Quokkaton completes its Town Clock and begins work on a Temple.
Our Pikeman near Gartokh withstands a charge from Tibetan Elephant Riders, losing only 1 HP.
1170 AD
Sikkim Falls to our Heavy Horsemen.
We capture two Tibetan Workers outside of Lhasa.
Our troops kill three Spearmen defending Leh. They have one Crossbowman defending the city and another right outside.
In other news:
Inca and Ethiopia have signed a peace treaty.
The Spearman in Rottnest successfully defends against the Siamese Crossbowman.
Ethiopia and Tibet have signed a military alliance against us.
We lose our Pikeman near Gartokh to the Tibetan Counter Offensive. We also lose one of our Heavy Horsemen near Sikkim.
Dyed Pretty completes its Temple and begins work on a Town Clock.
Golden Blubber Completes its Town Clock and begins work on a Temple.
1180 AD Dateline The Front: Our Heavy Horsemen vanquish a Tibetan Elephant Rider, Crossbowman and take the city of Leh killing its two defenders, a Crossbowman and a Conscripted Spearman.
In other news:
Ethiopia and China have signed a military alliance against Siam. So now Ethiopia is fighting us and Siam and we are fighting Siam.
Our Pikemen in Tuskany put up a desperate fight against the Raging Tibetan Elephants. Down to their last few men these brave men held back the rampaging hordes saving the city for our glorious empire.
We learn Education from the Great Library. So much for putting that off.
Quokkaton has completed its Temple and will now focus on the war effort. Fanatics in Quokkaton are gathering to march on Lhassa.
The Taxman cometh to and they begin work on a Shrine because anything else would take too long.
The Noblemen of Sir Jethro Stables begin training to become Cavaliers.
Hunkpapa completes its Toll House and begins working on a Forge.
The Siamese Complete their Slave Trade.
1190 AD Dateline Front Line: Our Heavy Horsemen Kill a Ghurka in Lhassa.
In other news: Polynesia and Siam have signed a Military Alliance against us.
The Inca and Polynesians are building Leonardos Workshop. Kal-el can build it in X turns.
Inca and Tibet have signed a military alliance against us.
2000 AD Dateline the Front: Troop Movement. Wounded Soldiers are pulled back and fresh units take their place.
Notes: We are in a pretty pickle with China as our only Ally. We can get China to go to war against all the other nations if we give them Iron, our WM and 1350 GP. We have 5074 GP in our treasury.
We should be able to take Lhassa and Gartokh soon and then on to Chamdo. I concentrated mainly on building our industrial base. Kal-el is about to finish its Guild Hall at which point it should be switched over to build Leonardos Workshop.
Save File
The Tibetan reaction to the Malise military build-up was mixed. High Priest Baadd Lama showed great concern in a recent press release saying, "We are greatly concerned about the recent training exercises that have been going on across our borders. Meanwhile the common citizen on the street had a different opinion. I have a different opinion than the Lamas, said a Tibetan citizen who wished to remain unnamed. I hope the Malise come in here and kick out those theocrats running this country. They have to go!
When asked to comment on such statements the Lama simply had No Comment.
The new House Majority Leader called all such concerns by the Tibetan leadership silly. Thats just silly, we have always had an amiable relationship with our neighbors from Tibet. I only hope that they do not get any crazy ideas and start sending Elephant Riders across our borders. Any such action could be seen as an act of hostility, which we would be forced to respond to, said el-Kan.
Meanwhile in Other News:
The Chinese War Galleys near Sir Jethro have turned north. All eyes on the West Coast follow them in anticipation.
Ethiopias Democratic Leader came to pay respects to the new Senate Leader yesterday. The two leaders discussed possible trade options. Overall the meeting was unsuccessful. I thought they were here to discuss real trade issues, but all they wanted was our territory map. I gave it to them for their World Map, said Kal-el el-Kan.
Horrible news rocked the diamond markets as word that we lost our supply of precious gems reached the Home Island. With the loss of their supply of Gems the people in Bear Butte and Wounded Knee begin to riot.
Even Worse, an emissary from the Theocracy of Siam brought word that the Siamese have inexplicably declared war on us! A Siamese Warrior assaults the island city of Wheat Thins. Thankfully the local militia is able to hold them off.
On a happier front, our Wisemen have discovered the secrets of Clockworks. They suggest that we use that knowledge to build great timekeepers in all our cities to help us stay on time and keep better track of worker production.
The great builder Kalindromedus attempted to build a mighty Cathedral but the walls were too high and they collapsed. I will have to rethink the basic architectural design, this could take a while, said Kalindromedus.
1110 AD Dateline Quokkaton: In response to the riots in the south the House of Representatives passed emergency legislation ordering the luxury rate be increased to 20%. It just seemed like a good thing to do, said Representative Harrier. We didnt want to see similar riots in the northern cities.
The workers outside of IOB have finished their road construction and are now working on building a mine in that same location.
In exchange for Dyes, Tea and our World map the Chinese agree to join us in a military alliance against the Siamese.
Meanwhile in Other News:
The Chinese convince the Inca to join the war against the Siamese.
Kal-el finishes their temple to Allah and begins work on a Guild Hall.
Jungle Island rushes its Pikeman for 40 GP and begins work on a Monument.
Rottnests Tax Collector finally arrives now they are just waiting for their Wiseman.
The people decide to add a third story and a dome to the House of Representatives Building.
1120 AD Dateline Gartokh: Our Pikemen outside the city of Gartokh establish a camp in the local sugar plantation. Inevitably the Tibetans will complain that our soldiers are eating up all the sugar.
Work continues on our infrastructure.
Malise Troops arrive near Sikkim.
Little Bighorn is changed from building a Worker to a Pikeman and is rushed.
In other news:
Quokkaton has finished their Guild Hall and begin work on a Town Clock in an attempt to rival Kal-el in production.
Wounded Knee trains a labor force and begins on another.
The Pikeman in Little Bighorn is finished and they begin work on a Monument.
Golden Blubber finished work on its Aqueduct and starts working on a new Town Clock.
New Jethrovia has trained a work force and begins training a Regiment of Eastern Pikemen to defend itself.
1130 AD Dateline Bangkok: The Siamese people are beginning to grumble about this silly war that their leaders have gotten them into.
Malise Heavy Horsemen encamp in the fields surrounding Sikkim.
In other news:
Dyed Pretty has finished work on its and begins work on a Temple.
Iron Mountain finished its Temple and will begin work on a new Town Clock.
The Incan city of Cuzco has built the Slave Trade.
A Siamese Carrack attacks and Sinks a Chinese War Galley of the coast of Wheat Thins.
Tibetan Elephant Riders are seen in the jungles north of Oglala.
1140 AD Dateline Wheat Thins: A Chinese Carrack attacks and destroys a Siamese War Galley.
Kalindromedus discovers the secret of Architecture and we can now build towering Mosques to Allah.
Meanwhile in a small studio somewhere a lonely artist is working on creating depth and Perspective in his paintings. Who knows maybe someday soon he will be successful.
Sir Jethro finishes the Temple they have been working on and decide to add a Shrine in the Temple Gardens.
Darwin completes its Temple and decides a Town Clock is in order.
The Wiseman shows up at Rottnest, they begin work on a Barracks.
In other News:
Tibet and China have signed a Military Agreement against Siam.
Ethiopia comes looking for a Right of Passage Agreement. We agree in exchange for a trade embargo against Siam.
The Inca come calling saying they want to end our RoP agreement. We convince them to continue it if they give us 2GPT (down from the 3GPT they were giving us) along with a Trade Embargo and Military Alliance against Siam and we give them our World Map.
The Polynesians request a RoP. We agree to it as long as they honor the world trade embargo against the Siamese and give us all 14 gold from their treasury. They accept and we exchange world maps.
Siam does another amphibious assault with a Warrior against our Veteran Spearman in Wheat Thins. Our troops are victorious and attain Elite Status.
1150 AD Dateline Kal-el: Production of the First Town Clock is completed. Local artisans and workers begin establishing guilds.
The people of Sir Jethro Stables are celebrating We love the Mansa Day
We love the Mansa Day celebrated in Darwin.
Tuskany completes construction and begins training some Mujahids.
1160 AD Not much happens in the world.
Polynesia and Siam Declare war on Inca. (this could start getting ugly)
Siam lands a crossbowman near Rottnest. Rottnest changes production from a Barracks to a Pikeman and rushes the training.
Tibet demands we remove our troops. We ignore them causing a war.
Quokkaton completes its Town Clock and begins work on a Temple.
Our Pikeman near Gartokh withstands a charge from Tibetan Elephant Riders, losing only 1 HP.
1170 AD
Sikkim Falls to our Heavy Horsemen.
We capture two Tibetan Workers outside of Lhasa.
Our troops kill three Spearmen defending Leh. They have one Crossbowman defending the city and another right outside.
In other news:
Inca and Ethiopia have signed a peace treaty.
The Spearman in Rottnest successfully defends against the Siamese Crossbowman.
Ethiopia and Tibet have signed a military alliance against us.
We lose our Pikeman near Gartokh to the Tibetan Counter Offensive. We also lose one of our Heavy Horsemen near Sikkim.
Dyed Pretty completes its Temple and begins work on a Town Clock.
Golden Blubber Completes its Town Clock and begins work on a Temple.
1180 AD Dateline The Front: Our Heavy Horsemen vanquish a Tibetan Elephant Rider, Crossbowman and take the city of Leh killing its two defenders, a Crossbowman and a Conscripted Spearman.
In other news:
Ethiopia and China have signed a military alliance against Siam. So now Ethiopia is fighting us and Siam and we are fighting Siam.
Our Pikemen in Tuskany put up a desperate fight against the Raging Tibetan Elephants. Down to their last few men these brave men held back the rampaging hordes saving the city for our glorious empire.
We learn Education from the Great Library. So much for putting that off.
Quokkaton has completed its Temple and will now focus on the war effort. Fanatics in Quokkaton are gathering to march on Lhassa.
The Taxman cometh to and they begin work on a Shrine because anything else would take too long.
The Noblemen of Sir Jethro Stables begin training to become Cavaliers.
Hunkpapa completes its Toll House and begins working on a Forge.
The Siamese Complete their Slave Trade.
1190 AD Dateline Front Line: Our Heavy Horsemen Kill a Ghurka in Lhassa.
In other news: Polynesia and Siam have signed a Military Alliance against us.
The Inca and Polynesians are building Leonardos Workshop. Kal-el can build it in X turns.
Inca and Tibet have signed a military alliance against us.
2000 AD Dateline the Front: Troop Movement. Wounded Soldiers are pulled back and fresh units take their place.
Notes: We are in a pretty pickle with China as our only Ally. We can get China to go to war against all the other nations if we give them Iron, our WM and 1350 GP. We have 5074 GP in our treasury.
We should be able to take Lhassa and Gartokh soon and then on to Chamdo. I concentrated mainly on building our industrial base. Kal-el is about to finish its Guild Hall at which point it should be switched over to build Leonardos Workshop.
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SirJethro
Paterfamilias
Gettin' pretty hairy. I like your style Kal. I can take it manana morn. Anybody got it today?
Well, everyone is at war with us except the Chinese, and we have 11 turns on our alliance left vs Siam. Our envoys to the others are sent back headless.
I hire a tax man in IOB, as it would riot otherwise. Rush shrine for 80.
Sikkim switched to pikeman. One pike from Little Bighorn dispatched there for riot control.
I now notice that Big Ben is no longer there (too unbalancing?). Iron Mountain Town Clock rushed for 120.
Wounded Knee is defenseless, switched to pike.
Marco Polo in Trading ship woken up, and sent south to a bit of unexplored land.
Leh set to starve.
I consider dropping lux rate, but we'd lose a couple of WLTKD's, so I leave it at 20%.
IBT: Siam is willing to pay us 75 for gold, but I say no for now. Two of their war galleys show up near Quokkaton.
[1] 1210AD: Quokkaton Mujahid -> Mujahid (this 3 move rules!). Kal-el Guild Hall -> Leo's in 20. Tuskany Mujahid -> Mujahid. Iron Mountain Clock -> Mujahid. Golden Blubber Temple -> Naval Base. IOB shrine -> pike. North Big Island Pike -> Forbidden Palace.
At Gartokh, we lose an elite HH, and kill two defenders. At least 2 more left. I reroute troops toward Gartokh, leaving Lhasa for now. Lots of troops need to be healed.
IBT: Golden Age ends. Time to Leo's is now 31, and income is 95gpt.
An Incan canoe shows up near former Sioux territory, and one near Jungle Isle.
[2] 1220AD: Bear Butte switched from worker to pike. Dyed Pretty Town Clock rushed for 190. Jungle Isle Monument rushed for 30.
IBT: Incans drop off a cavalier next to New Jethrovia.
[3] 1230AD: Little Bighorn Tax collector -> Pike. Dyed Pretty Town Clock -> Mujahid. Golden Blubber Naval Base -> Carrack. Jungle Isle Monument -> Pike. I sell off all the improvements in New Jethrovia, as it will fall next turn. Pikes in Wounded Knee and Bear Butte rushed for 185. Saltpeter near Iyekuno pillaged.
IBT: China cancels our RoP. Mao says "we know what you did to Tibet," so I guess we committed some kind of crime when we attacked. New Jethrovia falls. An Incan Medeval Infantry is dropped off next to Wounded Knee.
[4] 1240AD: Quokkaton cranks out more mujahid. Bear Butte Pike -> Tax collector. Wounded Knee Pike -> Pike. Disband the worker outside New Jethrovia.
We take Gartokh with no losses, and capture 2 workers and 7 resistors. An elite HH is dispatched south to protect our Sioux cities from interlopers. Iron near Iyekuno pillaged.
IBT: At Wounded Knee, our pikeman gets redlined but defeats the MedInf. China builds Copernicus in Nanjing.
[5] 1250AD: Troops heal, and I place 5 attackers next to Lhasa. There are three attackers in Gartokh, healing. Two MedInf surround Iyekuno, but it has a a Gurka (3/3/1) defender fortified on a hill, so I don't think we'll win; it may need to be bombarded.
No one will see our envoy. Despite the damage we've inflicted on Tibet, they won't even give us Army Tactics for peace. 6 turns remain on our alliance, although our reputation seems to be hurting anyway. Anyone remember how that happened? Perspective in 15, +105 gpt. Leo's in 24, less if you starve it for a bit by working a hill about to be mined.
Sorry for losing New Jethrovia - those canoes are so slow and hard to see, that I didn't notice it until it was too late. Plus, I seriously doubt even having two spearmen could hold off their 6-attack Cavalier.
I hire a tax man in IOB, as it would riot otherwise. Rush shrine for 80.
Sikkim switched to pikeman. One pike from Little Bighorn dispatched there for riot control.
I now notice that Big Ben is no longer there (too unbalancing?). Iron Mountain Town Clock rushed for 120.
Wounded Knee is defenseless, switched to pike.
Marco Polo in Trading ship woken up, and sent south to a bit of unexplored land.
Leh set to starve.
I consider dropping lux rate, but we'd lose a couple of WLTKD's, so I leave it at 20%.
IBT: Siam is willing to pay us 75 for gold, but I say no for now. Two of their war galleys show up near Quokkaton.
[1] 1210AD: Quokkaton Mujahid -> Mujahid (this 3 move rules!). Kal-el Guild Hall -> Leo's in 20. Tuskany Mujahid -> Mujahid. Iron Mountain Clock -> Mujahid. Golden Blubber Temple -> Naval Base. IOB shrine -> pike. North Big Island Pike -> Forbidden Palace.
At Gartokh, we lose an elite HH, and kill two defenders. At least 2 more left. I reroute troops toward Gartokh, leaving Lhasa for now. Lots of troops need to be healed.
IBT: Golden Age ends. Time to Leo's is now 31, and income is 95gpt.
An Incan canoe shows up near former Sioux territory, and one near Jungle Isle. [2] 1220AD: Bear Butte switched from worker to pike. Dyed Pretty Town Clock rushed for 190. Jungle Isle Monument rushed for 30.
IBT: Incans drop off a cavalier next to New Jethrovia.
[3] 1230AD: Little Bighorn Tax collector -> Pike. Dyed Pretty Town Clock -> Mujahid. Golden Blubber Naval Base -> Carrack. Jungle Isle Monument -> Pike. I sell off all the improvements in New Jethrovia, as it will fall next turn. Pikes in Wounded Knee and Bear Butte rushed for 185. Saltpeter near Iyekuno pillaged.
IBT: China cancels our RoP. Mao says "we know what you did to Tibet," so I guess we committed some kind of crime when we attacked. New Jethrovia falls.
An Incan Medeval Infantry is dropped off next to Wounded Knee.[4] 1240AD: Quokkaton cranks out more mujahid. Bear Butte Pike -> Tax collector. Wounded Knee Pike -> Pike. Disband the worker outside New Jethrovia.
We take Gartokh with no losses, and capture 2 workers and 7 resistors. An elite HH is dispatched south to protect our Sioux cities from interlopers. Iron near Iyekuno pillaged.
IBT: At Wounded Knee, our pikeman gets redlined but defeats the MedInf. China builds Copernicus in Nanjing.
[5] 1250AD: Troops heal, and I place 5 attackers next to Lhasa. There are three attackers in Gartokh, healing. Two MedInf surround Iyekuno, but it has a a Gurka (3/3/1) defender fortified on a hill, so I don't think we'll win; it may need to be bombarded.
No one will see our envoy. Despite the damage we've inflicted on Tibet, they won't even give us Army Tactics for peace. 6 turns remain on our alliance, although our reputation seems to be hurting anyway. Anyone remember how that happened? Perspective in 15, +105 gpt. Leo's in 24, less if you starve it for a bit by working a hill about to be mined.
Sorry for losing New Jethrovia - those canoes are so slow and hard to see, that I didn't notice it until it was too late. Plus, I seriously doubt even having two spearmen could hold off their 6-attack Cavalier.
pdescobar
Moo, baby. Moo.
I'd say there was definitely a rep hit on the war declaration with Tibet:
AFAIK, declaring war that way is treated just like a broken RoP. No idea if there was anything else that happened to hurt the rep, but that may be enough.
Missed that.Yes declaring war that way is the same as RoP Rape. Nobody said anything about what we did to the Sioux because nobody knew of the Sioux.
@Cromagnon.
Yes they removed Big Ben because it was too unbalancing. The AI didn't prioritize it properly, giving the human a huge advantage.
After we are done with Tibet one of our big cities should go for East India Company (free EI Trade office in every city, +50% Luxuries), +50% Lux in city where built.
Error EIC still has +1 ship movement flag
Kal-el, a question about the Slave Trade Wonders.
What is the effect of having more than one? They all grant the same building so I don't think you could get more than +25% production but what about the unhappiness? They are Great Wonders so won't be destroyed when captured. With all the Wonders that double the 'happiness' of Slave Markets later in the game, having more than one will be hugely problematic.
@Cromagnon.
Yes they removed Big Ben because it was too unbalancing. The AI didn't prioritize it properly, giving the human a huge advantage.
After we are done with Tibet one of our big cities should go for East India Company (free EI Trade office in every city, +50% Luxuries), +50% Lux in city where built.
Error EIC still has +1 ship movement flag
Kal-el, a question about the Slave Trade Wonders.
What is the effect of having more than one? They all grant the same building so I don't think you could get more than +25% production but what about the unhappiness? They are Great Wonders so won't be destroyed when captured. With all the Wonders that double the 'happiness' of Slave Markets later in the game, having more than one will be hugely problematic.
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