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SiSi 002 - Cuddle with Bullies

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by Simple Simon, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. Simple Simon

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    off we go:

    I handpicked all agg AI, then added those I dislike (HRE, e.g.). Nap must be there, too. Also, I checked the aggressive AI box. Sea level is high, and to allow proper pileups I selected pangaea. Monarch level, too, so that it will be a bit hairy in the beginning.
     
  2. Simple Simon

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    When I saw the start I was tempted to re-roll.....

     
  3. Mighty Dwaarf

    Mighty Dwaarf Ginger Beast

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    Why re roll that?? Grassland, Hills, Food, Happiness, Commerce, what more do we want, I would maybe be tempted to move 1W onto the hill, better defense and probs more land tiles to work.
     
  4. Mighty Dwaarf

    Mighty Dwaarf Ginger Beast

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    Im going to build and use one now just for the $10!!
     
  5. Quotey

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    Oh joy, we're probably at a chokepoint. Monarch, Agg AI, Aggresive Leaders, and Protective ones. This will be... :/

    Keep this start :p

    It looks like an awful weird map though.

    e: Dwarf, shhhhh
     
  6. Simple Simon

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    I couldn't sleep last night, so I thought about this start a bit. I think it is potentially a lot worse than most of you realized.

    - this is most likely not a choke, but rather land's end. I moved the warrior east, it find s grass and a deserty looking tile shows from the fog behind it.
    - we are unlikely to be able to move the settler! Remember that this is an even tighter map than the last. It is highly probably that the 21s of our capital and at least one AI overlap.
    - we are production poor
    - therefore, we will have to fight our way west.
    - our chances for horses, copper and iron are rather slim. I hope one of the metals is present on the hill to the west.

    Tech path: we need fishing (3 WBs - start tech), sailing (WB protection), mining (start tech), wheel, war resources techs (BW, IW, AH), a culture resource (writing [lib], OB would be handy, too). If culturally pressed we will need a monument (Myst). After that? I would beeline for construction! AIs without copper/iron will have +/- 6 Archers in their towns. At least! I would not want to attack that at ~40% culture and up without cats.



    Anyone opposed? If not I'll play soon.
     
  7. TheLastOne36

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    Settle in place. Anyone heard of whipping units?

    Why sailing though? i understand maybe Moai Statues would help alot, but Barbarian Galleys aren't going to be a bother till some time later... I say ounce we finish AH, BW and IW we do sailing for Moai.
     
  8. Simple Simon

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    Yup, I lately tend to over-whip :lol:

    I was not saying that we need them in that order exactly. When do barb galleys appear at the earliest?
     
  9. Simple Simon

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    I settle in place, as I fear cultural pressure later on. Right away a border is visible – should be Augustus. He’s a good neighbour :)

    Research: BW, in in 17. WB ordered, I use a clams tile. I’ll whip the WBs anyways, so the added research is more to my liking than the hammers.

    Sury is to the south – the two of them seem to box us in. Moving the warrior east now is punished: I will not be able to skirt around Augustus before his borders pop.

    Augustus soon puts culture pressure on us. There is a second hill WNW, so our prod will be tolerable, and the metal chances are higher.

    BW is in and there is no copper. BLEH! I revolt and am tempted to go for the wheel now (hook up gold), but choose IW instead. We need to know if we have iron. Also, a worker will take some time to build as there are three WBs to rush first.

    Handing off: WBs are done, use barracks for growing the town, whip worker in between. We will not have anything useful to build for some time unless we find iron – I suggest warriors for mil happiness later on.



    Please play 40 turns in peacetime!



    Simple Simon
    Mighty Dwaarf --> up, please play 40 turns

    50_dollar_bag --> on deck
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    Quotey
     
  10. Simple Simon

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    thoughts: let's just hope nobody takes an early dislike to us :lol:

    A lib soon will help with culture and research. Also, down on our knees and pray for iron.
     
  11. Quotey

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    Sury is Creative. Augustus is.... Imp/Org? Buggery, they need to die. Are archer rushes viable on Monarch? :D
     
  12. TheLastOne36

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    Nope. AI starts with 3(or 2?) archers on monarch. If this was Prince though....

    How bout Warrior spam? :D :lol: :joke:
     
  13. Simple Simon

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    they must have at least two archers, as the exploring units I saw on turn 1 and 2 were both archers!
     
  14. Mighty Dwaarf

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    Simon no save attached??
     
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    ugh!

    coming!
     

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    Ok got it now, 40 turns done by tomorrow night.
     
  17. Mighty Dwaarf

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    First things first we got Iron :D



    Bit of juggling around with builds we have worker by turn 15.

    Finished Barracks and also an archer and a sword (2nd sword 1 turn away), I avoid whipping to allow the whip unhappiness to subside. It has done now so next person can whip away.

    Techs we have IW, Hunt, Arch, Pott and Writing. I went for Archery for archers defence, and then for Writing for OB to explore some more.

    Apart from that just pressed enter a lot!!

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  18. TheLastOne36

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    I see Shaka's borders behind Augustas... :(
     
  19. Simple Simon

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  20. 50_dollar_bag

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    I can't download Mighty Dwaarf's save. Might be best if TheLastOne36 takes it instead of me as I'll be away from internet access for the next couple of days.

    May as well skip me 'til Monday if you want to keep things moving swiftly. Save me some heads to bash though. :hammer:
     

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