It reminds me of Sweden in Civ 6. Everyone can participate in a Nobel Prize contest, but Sweden has bonuses towards winning them.
I'm sure the Ottomans will have some inherit bonuses toward excavating artifacts easier.
Sneak Peek: Iceland and Ottomans
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I'm sure the Ottomans will have some inherit bonuses toward excavating artifacts easier.
Kmart_Elvis
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I also thought of the Sweden parallel. Hopefully something like archeologists with extra moves, quicker digging, or more charges.
That being said, cultural victory in modern is my absolute least favorite victory condition so I'm really non plussed with whatever the Ottomans are.
That being said, cultural victory in modern is my absolute least favorite victory condition so I'm really non plussed with whatever the Ottomans are.
queenpea
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I don’t really enjoy any of the culture gameplay in VII, but pushing that aside, I think it would be a mistake to give them a unique explorer as this is too close to Great Britain.
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Everyone gets Greece's artifacts except the Greeks... Sometimes Civ7 is a bit on the nose.
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There is an unused effect for getting relics from civic masteries. I'm pretty sure that's what Iceland will get from its unique civics and they're meant to complete the path with raw culture rather than proselytizing. There is also an unused effect for spreading religion via coastal raiding, in addition to some more unused coastal raiding effects. Would make sense for Iceland as well.
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I do think that controlling when a dig site drops and having it near your territory is an advantage, but not if you don't plan for it.
I don't think they will give the Ottomans a unique explorer, considering there are plenty of better options for them. Maybe even give them 2 combat units?
I could see something in their civics tree like this as either a social policy or tradition: Asar-ı Atîka Nizamnamesi.
They could gain influence whenever someone extracts one of their artifacts, or a specific sanction only available to them where they could choose who could extract artifacts?
That it as an interesting point, when considering that Iceland apparently has increased costs for missionaries. It seems plausible that they get some other way to spread their religion to compensate for the increased cost for missionaries.
sonicmyst
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sonicmyst
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From the shores of the Bosphorus, the Ottomans ruled an empire spanning six centuries and three continents. By the 19th century, the world's wealth flowed through the Grand Bazaar and the Ottoman navy ruled the seas. Tension between the religious and the secular prompted major reforms to reforge the Ottomans for a new era. But these changes came too late, and the empire gave way to the modern Republic of Türkiye.
Unique Ability
Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿOsmānīye: When any leader Excavates an Artifact in the Ottomans' territory, they generate an additional Artifact. Infantry and Naval Units receive increased Combat Strength when attacking.
Attributes
Militaristic
Cultural
Civic Trees
Şahi Topu
Tier 1: Unlocks the 'Siege Train' Tradition. Army Commanders receive the Barrage Promotion.
Tradition - Siege Train: When a District's Defenses are destroyed, all Land Siege Units and Infantry Units have their Movement restored.
Tier 2: Increased Settlement Cap. Infantry units receive Increased Combat Strength against Districts.
Harbiye Nezâreti
Tier 1: Increased Production towards Siege Units and Infantry Units. Land Units require less maintenance.
Tier 2: Increased Settlement Cap. Unlocks the 'Erkân-ı Harbiye Mektebi' Tradition.
Tradition - Erkân-ı Harbiye Mektebi: Land Military Units fight as though they are at full Strength even when damaged.
Lâle Devri
Tier 1: Unlocks the Hammam Building. Unlocks the Sultanahmet Camii Wonder. Unlocks the 'Sedef Kakma' Tradition.
Tradition - Sedef Kakma: Quarters with a set minimum number of Happiness Buildings receive increased Culture. Quarters with a set minimum number of Culture Buildings receive a set amount of Happiness.
Tier 2: Unlocks the Camii Unique Building. Gain a Policy Slot.
Tanẓîmât
Tier 1: Increased Production to Museums. Unlocks the 'Osmanlı Barok' Tradition.
Tradition - Osmanlı Barok: Increased Happiness on Great Works.
Tier 2: Gain an Artifact. Explorers ignore Vegetated and River tiles for Movement.
Unique Infrastructure
Külliye: Unique Quarter. Increased Culture and Gold to Specialists in this Settlement.
Hammam: Unique Building. Happiness Base. Gold adjacency with Cultural Buildings.
Cami: Unique Building. Culture Base. Happiness adjacency with Science Buildings. Has a set number of Artifact slots.
Unique Military Units
Barbary Corsair: Unique Light Naval Unit. It costs no Movement to Coastal Raid.
Janissary: Unique Infantry. Increased Combat Strength against other Land Units. Settlements suffer a Happiness penalty for every Janissary stationed in or occupying a District.
Associated Wonder
Sultanahmet Camii: Happiness base. Wonders in this Settlement receive increased Culture and Gold. This is increased further for Exploration Wonders and even further for Antiquity Wonders. Must be built adjacent to another Wonder.
Starting Biases
None
Gameplay Tip
If you see an Archaeology Site in another civilization's territory, use the Ottoman's bonuses towards conquering to capture the Settlement for yourself. The Site will count for the Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿOsmānīye Unique Ability!
Unique Ability
Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿOsmānīye: When any leader Excavates an Artifact in the Ottomans' territory, they generate an additional Artifact. Infantry and Naval Units receive increased Combat Strength when attacking.
Attributes
Militaristic
Cultural
Civic Trees
Şahi Topu
Tier 1: Unlocks the 'Siege Train' Tradition. Army Commanders receive the Barrage Promotion.
Tradition - Siege Train: When a District's Defenses are destroyed, all Land Siege Units and Infantry Units have their Movement restored.
Tier 2: Increased Settlement Cap. Infantry units receive Increased Combat Strength against Districts.
Harbiye Nezâreti
Tier 1: Increased Production towards Siege Units and Infantry Units. Land Units require less maintenance.
Tier 2: Increased Settlement Cap. Unlocks the 'Erkân-ı Harbiye Mektebi' Tradition.
Tradition - Erkân-ı Harbiye Mektebi: Land Military Units fight as though they are at full Strength even when damaged.
Lâle Devri
Tier 1: Unlocks the Hammam Building. Unlocks the Sultanahmet Camii Wonder. Unlocks the 'Sedef Kakma' Tradition.
Tradition - Sedef Kakma: Quarters with a set minimum number of Happiness Buildings receive increased Culture. Quarters with a set minimum number of Culture Buildings receive a set amount of Happiness.
Tier 2: Unlocks the Camii Unique Building. Gain a Policy Slot.
Tanẓîmât
Tier 1: Increased Production to Museums. Unlocks the 'Osmanlı Barok' Tradition.
Tradition - Osmanlı Barok: Increased Happiness on Great Works.
Tier 2: Gain an Artifact. Explorers ignore Vegetated and River tiles for Movement.
Unique Infrastructure
Külliye: Unique Quarter. Increased Culture and Gold to Specialists in this Settlement.
Hammam: Unique Building. Happiness Base. Gold adjacency with Cultural Buildings.
Cami: Unique Building. Culture Base. Happiness adjacency with Science Buildings. Has a set number of Artifact slots.
Unique Military Units
Barbary Corsair: Unique Light Naval Unit. It costs no Movement to Coastal Raid.
Janissary: Unique Infantry. Increased Combat Strength against other Land Units. Settlements suffer a Happiness penalty for every Janissary stationed in or occupying a District.
Associated Wonder
Sultanahmet Camii: Happiness base. Wonders in this Settlement receive increased Culture and Gold. This is increased further for Exploration Wonders and even further for Antiquity Wonders. Must be built adjacent to another Wonder.
Starting Biases
None
Gameplay Tip
If you see an Archaeology Site in another civilization's territory, use the Ottoman's bonuses towards conquering to capture the Settlement for yourself. The Site will count for the Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿOsmānīye Unique Ability!
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Most teaching there before the English Reformation was theology and to staff the church bureaucracy.
queenpea
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I wonder when we will be getting the full Iceland reveal? Today, hopefully?
Looking across the map of the U.S., it looks like it already happened.
As for the civilization, I do expect it.
Hellenism Salesman
Emperor
And they wrote their abilities in the description!
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HISTORY
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On a volcanic, windswept island, the Icelanders forged a commonwealth of chieftains and warriors, lawyers and scholars. Icelandic longships ranged far and wide – Vikings terrorized Europe’s rivers and coasts as explorers roamed North America. Poets and saga-writers preserved their deeds alongside tales of gods, saints, and heroes. Centuries of independence held until Iceland, weakened by civil war, submitted to Norway.
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ABILITY
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Kringla Heimsins: Receive a set amount of Culture when you discover a Natural Wonder in Distant Lands (effect scales based on game speed). Missionaries cost a set percentage more.
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ATTRIBUTES
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• Militaristic
• Cultural
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CIVIC TREES
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Landnámabók
• Tier 1: Unlocks the Þingstaðr Unique Building. Unlocks the 'Drekahöfuð' Tradition. Receive a Relic every time you master a Civic.
• Tradition - Drekahöfuð: Producing a Naval Unit grants Culture equal to a set percentage of that Unit's Production cost.
• Tier 2: Þingstaðr receives increased Gold in Settlements with a Kiln. Unlocks the Reiði Guðanna Tradition.
• Tradition - Reiði Guðanna: All Buildings receive a Cultural and Production Adjacency with Volcanoes and Natural Wonders.
Hugins Drekka
• Tier 1: Naval Units can Pillage and Coastal Raid tiles within a set number of tiles. Unlocks the 'Dróttkvætt' Tradition.
• Tradition - Dróttkvætt: Coast Raiding grants Culture equal to a set percentage of the Pillaging Yield.
• Tier 2: Víkingr may Coastal Raid and Pillage for a set amount of Movement when the Víkingr is in Distant Lands (doesn't apply to Discoveries).
Væringjar
• Tier 1: Naval Units and Embark Units receive increased Movement and increased Combat Strength.
• Tier 2: Unlocks the 'Lyfsteinn' Tradition. Increased Settlement Cap.
• Tradition - Lyfsteinn: Increased Healing to Naval Units outside Friendly Territory.
Þjóðveldið
• Tier 1: Unlocks Reykjaholt Wonder. Gain a set number of Relics.
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INFRASTRUCTURE
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Þingstaðr: Unique Building. Happiness Base. Increased Culture for each adjacent Wet, Floodplains, Volcano, or Vegetated tile. Must be built in Tundra or Grassland not adjacent to another Þingstaðr.
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CIVILIAN UNIT
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Saga Hero: Great Person. Trainable in Settlements with a Þingstaðr.
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MILITARY UNIT
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Víkingr: Unique Naval Unit. Coastal Raiding grants Science equal to a set percentage the Pillaging Yield. Has increased Sight.
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WONDER
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Reykjaholt: Culture Base. Increased Production towards Military Units in this City for every Great Work in this City. Has a set number of Relic Slots. Must be placed in Tundra.
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STARTING BIASES
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• Coastal
• Tundra
• Grassland
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GAMEPLAY TIP
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The Hugins Drekka Civic lets the Víkingr Unique Unit Pillage and Coastal Raid within a set number of tiles. Sail it up Navigable Rivers and let the raiding begin!
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FOLLOW CIV
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Lonecat Nekophrodite
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Sweden has never been modelled properly.
Civ6 leader version is lame. the country is better lead with Gustav Adolphe. and Caroleans shown up wrong
and also hard to fit into Civ7. Sweden was a latecomer in Age 2 (17th Century 'Thirty Years War', this is when Swedes was at its peak), but their favorite UU-Caroeans, shown up very early in Age III (also very offensive oriented, the last 'Pike and Shotte' formations equipped with flintlocks geared towards stronger offensive capabilities than any average fusiliers of that time)
Lonecat Nekophrodite
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Are you kidding me? Now Norsemen longships got a rather lame name ... 'Vikings'!
Also Saga Hero should be useful OUTSIDE their homeland, mmm a kinda Conquistadore of the North.
Can't wait to see Siegfried and his Ring of Nibelunge quest.
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Eep, I'm late, I'm late! Thank you for posting this!
For the sake of tradition I'm happy to make a seperate post or we can keep things consolidated here
Hellenism Salesman
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I think the forum-goers would appreciate if you did a separate thread as well, since then we wouldn’t be hijacking this thread to use as an Iceland discussion thread.Eep, I'm late, I'm late! Thank you for posting this!
For the sake of tradition I'm happy to make a seperate post or we can keep things consolidated here
FXS_Sar
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I'm on itI think the forum-goers would appreciate if you did a separate thread as well, since then we wouldn’t be hijacking this thread to use as an Iceland discussion thread.
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