Snob Test. Where Would You Live?

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OK here's the scenario. You have to relocate somewhere. You are part of an experimental UBI. You get a decent house in a bad area and say $400 usd a week. You do not have to pay rent or mortgage. Or get a job. You have to stay there for a year.

Here are some candidates.

Blackpool UK.



Hmmnn video won't play. Joe and Nic's road trip Mississippi on youtube should find it.

Home of the 1 quid burger, pints for a 1.80 pounds Blackpool and accommodation from less than 9 pounds per person a night of you are not fussy. It is a small economically distressed city. For a best of the worst though might not a bad option. At least it's coastal.

Holmes County Mississippi USA.



One of the poorest areas in the USA you xan pick what town you like. Durant the biggest at 2200 people. Not going to lie it's rough here. But your UBI might go a long way. Alot of towns are majority black.

Ruatoria New Zealand


750-900 odd people in one of the most economically distressed areas of NZ. North Island gang and drug problems rough area limited shops and amenities. The nearest city of any size is 1 hour 45 minutes away. Beautiful area and weather though. Close to the coast.

Well Blackpool doesn't look that bad comparatively. But that means you might daily this snob off.

Feel free to nominate anywhere worse than these options. You just have to be willing to live there. Gary Indiana? Detroits to easy. Humboldt county California also looks to easy.

Lowest you're willing to go.
 
Your hypothetical scenario of depression and squalor is a few shades above my current standard of living, so... anywhere?
 
Your hypothetical scenario of depression and squalor is a few shades above my current standard of living, so... anywhere?

UBI amount and free rent might be to generous. Hypothetical buy in you're willing to move.

Nain reason was lack of job opportunities so maybe a pension was a better idea.
 
$20k for a year, free, to live in a bad neighborhood. What is the experiment trying to learn?
 
$20k for a year, free, to live in a bad neighborhood. What is the experiment trying to learn?

How low woukd you go in terms of willing to go somewhere.

Alot of these places you wouldn't live there due to lack of jobs so I'm trying to remove that element.
. Probably should have halved it if rent was free.
 
Again what is the point? What is such an "experiment" trying to show? Tolerance for misery? Desire to not have to work?

A smart person would take the $400 a week and go live in some impoverished place where that amount of money makes you rich. Rural India or SE Asia; Malawi, Ecuador. Peru.
 
Again what is the point? What is such an "experiment" trying to show? Tolerance for misery? Desire to not have to work?

A smart person would take the $400 a week and go live in some impoverished place where that amount of money makes you rich. Rural India or SE Asia; Malawi, Ecuador. Peru.

That woukd fail the snob part of the test though.

Plenty of places you could live on that just fine.

It's a test of if you had to what's the worst place you're willing to go. Probably should have indexed the cash to your countries pension.
 
For me, a terrible place would be some small MAGA town.
 
$20k for a year, free, to live in a bad neighborhood. What is the experiment trying to learn?
At what point will you say 'enough' and want to get out of there?

Been there, done that for me, though of course out of that less than 20k I had to pay rent, utilities, extra pet fees/cat, food, transit, etc. I lived in what is still considered the worst neighborhood in the city outside of right downtown, before being able to get out and move where I am now. And right now is still not ideal, given that they've had to up the security around here to keep the homeless from sneaking in and crashing in the stairwells and lobby.

Where I was before was, and still is, known for drugs. There was a murder in the block next to mine. My upstairs neighbors helpfully told me what the property management company didn't: The place I moved into was previously occupied by a hooker and her pimp. So I guess I know who put the holes in the walls that the management company didn't want to fix until I reminded them that 6-legged lifeforms often live in walls.

The straw that broke the camel's back, and my tolerance, was being accosted at the bus stop by a drug-addled woman. I figured this is it, I want out of here. Thankfully there was a vacancy in the building where I live now, with elevators, laundry on every floor, and not only security doors, but security people (who were a damn sight more useful to me than the cops were, when a tenant tried forcing his way in one night, several years ago).

Red Deer used to be so safe that I could indulge in a trip to the 24-hour convenience store at 3 am if I had a craving for a Slurpee. I've walked home from downtown at 4 am, in the 1980s and never had a situation more serious than trying to avoid a skunk. There are some parts of town I wouldn't go even at high noon, these days. Red Deer is smack in the middle between not only Edmonton and Calgary, but also a lot of surrounding towns and a couple of smaller cities. We're at the crossroads of the central region of the province, which means that sooner or later, all sorts of illegal stuff comes through here, whether drugs, trafficked people, motorcycle gangs (that neighborhood I lived in boasted a headquarters for the local Grim Reapers which the cops claimed they cleared out, but I've yet to find any non-cop who believes it), weapons, etc.


Of the three places... New Zealand reminds me somewhat of some of the places I've been in the interior regions of British Columbia. Assuming I could find a reasonably safe spot to live, I'd be really tempted by climate and being able to see the southern night sky. That place looks like it's on a flood plain, though, so I suppose they have flooding from time to time?

Mississippi doesn't tempt me at all.
 
For me, a terrible place would be some small MAGA town.
Howdy.

The most out of place I've ever felt was probably San Fran, but that was ages ago and the lack of a local while there.
 
At what point will you say 'enough' and want to get out of there?

Been there, done that for me, though of course out of that less than 20k I had to pay rent, utilities, extra pet fees/cat, food, transit, etc. I lived in what is still considered the worst neighborhood in the city outside of right downtown, before being able to get out and move where I am now. And right now is still not ideal, given that they've had to up the security around here to keep the homeless from sneaking in and crashing in the stairwells and lobby.

Where I was before was, and still is, known for drugs. There was a murder in the block next to mine. My upstairs neighbors helpfully told me what the property management company didn't: The place I moved into was previously occupied by a hooker and her pimp. So I guess I know who put the holes in the walls that the management company didn't want to fix until I reminded them that 6-legged lifeforms often live in walls.

The straw that broke the camel's back, and my tolerance, was being accosted at the bus stop by a drug-addled woman. I figured this is it, I want out of here. Thankfully there was a vacancy in the building where I live now, with elevators, laundry on every floor, and not only security doors, but security people (who were a damn sight more useful to me than the cops were, when a tenant tried forcing his way in one night, several years ago).

Red Deer used to be so safe that I could indulge in a trip to the 24-hour convenience store at 3 am if I had a craving for a Slurpee. I've walked home from downtown at 4 am, in the 1980s and never had a situation more serious than trying to avoid a skunk. There are some parts of town I wouldn't go even at high noon, these days. Red Deer is smack in the middle between not only Edmonton and Calgary, but also a lot of surrounding towns and a couple of smaller cities. We're at the crossroads of the central region of the province, which means that sooner or later, all sorts of illegal stuff comes through here, whether drugs, trafficked people, motorcycle gangs (that neighborhood I lived in boasted a headquarters for the local Grim Reapers which the cops claimed they cleared out, but I've yet to find any non-cop who believes it), weapons, etc.


Of the three places... New Zealand reminds me somewhat of some of the places I've been in the interior regions of British Columbia. Assuming I could find a reasonably safe spot to live, I'd be really tempted by climate and being able to see the southern night sky. That place looks like it's on a flood plain, though, so I suppose they have flooding from time to time?

Mississippi doesn't tempt me at all.

That place got hit by a cyclone 2023.

Rhat town is quite rough. Not sure if it's the worst town here but ots one of them.
. Car and petrol would have to come out of the ubi.
 
Wherever where I'm least likely to be a victim of crime

Taking into account however not just crime rate but how likely I'm to be targeted as a perceived outsider. I'd have to interview a few people familiar with those places before making a decision.
 
For me, a terrible place would be some small MAGA town.
I would like to recommend Zanesville, Ohio to you.

A byword locally for hopeless economic depression and American decline, Zanesville features charming open-air drug markets in major public thoroughfares. Be sure to roll your window up!

The population has declined in each census since 1960. Approximately 25% live beneath the poverty line, in a town of 20k, where rent is about five to six hundred dollars. Impressive! The median female income is 19k, actually beneath Zardnaar's subsidy. For every 100 women, there are 85 men. Unfortunately, many were lost to drug addiction, exposure, jail, things of that nature. Adventurous!

It is also deep, deep MAGA. They even put up a billboard threatening to jail criminals from Columbus. Lovely implications! No subtexts!

(there are worse further south, it's only slightly below average for Southeast Ohio)
 
Blackpool looks nicer than where I live, on the beach for one, colder and darker in the winter tho
 
I would like to recommend Zanesville, Ohio to you.

A byword locally for hopeless economic depression and American decline, Zanesville features charming open-air drug markets in major public thoroughfares. Be sure to roll your window up!

The population has declined in each census since 1960. Approximately 25% live beneath the poverty line, in a town of 20k, where rent is about five to six hundred dollars. Impressive! The median female income is 19k, actually beneath Zardnaar's subsidy. For every 100 women, there are 85 men. Unfortunately, many were lost to drug addiction, exposure, jail, things of that nature. Adventurous!

It is also deep, deep MAGA. They even put up a billboard threatening to jail criminals from Columbus. Lovely implications! No subtexts!

(there are worse further south, it's only slightly below average for Southeast Ohio)
Sounds like a place to move away from rather than to move to.
 
Like plastic.
 
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