So BE is a reskin?

[NoobEmperor]

Mechanics that are the same:

resource: food, production, energy
Expo-cap: unhappiness -> health
trade
border
culture "powerup" i.e. virtues
city states now magically become random trade center, how did they get here from earth btw?
barbarians
1unit-per-tile

New Mechanics:

tech web (ripped from endless space lol)
make-your-own-civ/column-a-column-b (which is a mainstay of 4x since the beginning of computers)
affinity (random lvl up stat)

bad design choice:

why does the chinese faction speak chinese? don't they learn english in school in 2214? or did they just ported the system from civ5 (which made sense cuz civilisations) without thinking?

magical solution which doesn't make sense like health. how does having more cities make other cities unhealthy?

satellite doesnt even orbit. should just call it balloon.

separating unit strength from technological advance. by some strange reason, when you decide to put a few trees in your park, the soldiers in the field through some planetary mind link become stronger and gain abilities. lol. which is really a hack to fix the problem that the non-linearity of the web brings to the game. alas, they didn't actually play endless space and find out how they made the the tech web work with unit strength there.

miasma. WTH? this makes no sense. obviously they want something like fungus from AC that would make the land 'alien zone' but ofc that wouldn't work with what they got so alien fart it is.


that's all i could think of. I know that criticism of the game is frowned upon by the fanboys here but these are legitimate issues with the game, namely that they have resorted to releasing reskin every year or so to milk the cash cow like Call of Duty. It's a sad state but only another paint that makes a picture. if a big company get a big title out, they will just release reskin of said title every year to cash in.

I will probably play the game just so I will know how much of a reskin it really is (i expect 80%+)

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[JokerJace]

I don't get trolls, how is wasting your time on pretending to be an ignorant prick any fun?

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[NoobEmperor]

I don't get trolls, how is wasting your time on pretending to be an ignorant prick any fun?

How is pretending that, opinions you don't like are trolls, productive?

 

[Teproc]

How is pretending that, opinions you don't like are trolls, productive?

It's not very hard to see you for a troll when you act dumbfounded about chinese people speaking chinese.

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[Camikaze]

Moderator Action: Thread closed. There are other threads which deal with this issue (such as this one), and the OP here is rather confrontational (bemoaning 'fanboys').

It's entirely okay to present the opinion that BE is a reskin of Civ5, but keep in mind that it's obviously going to be a highly contentious topic, and a degree of tact is therefore going to be required for a thread to go anywhere but straight into the ground (as is seen here). If you want to forward an argument similar to the OP's, please do so politely and thoroughly, in order to promote civil and productive discussion.

For those responding to complaints such as the OP's, please keep in mind that people are entitled to their opinions, and if you don't like them, you're free to ignore them or point out why they're wrong. If you think someone is trolling, please just report the post and move on, rather than replying. Accusing someone of trolling is considered trolling in itself, because even if you're right, you're only furthering an argument or contributing to the poisoned atmosphere.