So fine, I lose, again...

[Sylith]

This used to be a fun game. Civ I was great, and I could consistently win on Prince level, and half the time on King level. It was fun. Civ II wasn't so much fun, but it was ok. Then of course, there's this beast. Oh, I've won on King level, with tiny archipelago worlds as the Babylonians and annihilating everyone in site, but that got boring after half a dozen times. No, here I am on average sized worlds losing at Prince level over, and over, and over... And wasting too much of my life. I solved the problem just now after my latest demoralizing defeat. I took the disk out of the drive, and snapped it in two and threw it away. So much for the "Collector's Edition". Well, now I have my life back.

Lilith

 

[smallstepforman]

Do you break your baseball bat when you strike out because you suck bigtime? Do you throw away your chess peices when you loose? Take it like a man.

 

[Kilroy]

So I assume your eighteenth post will be your last then?

 

[Shabbaman]

Demoralizing?

Read more here at CFC, use and abuse it. Or maybe just go down to chieftain and play a huge map first.
Or modify the game so you'll always win. Or something.

 

[Koronin]

To me, the challenge is the juice.

Makes me feel like my money was well spent, who wants an easy to win game?

 

[robehans]

I dont get it... do you have a lot of extra money or something?? freaking stupid... buys a game and then destroys it... you could've passed it on to the kid next door or something... ... he would've prolly appreciated the game much more than what the trash-can does...

And for the game... Your a really bad looser... You should take it like a man, and if you dont want to play it... then DONT, you can allways take that other game out and play that for a while...

 

[Sylith]

Originally posted by Kilroy
So I assume your eighteenth post will be your last then?

Well, my penultimate post I suppose. I found others' reactions to be somewhat amusing:

Flame: Take it like a man!
Answer: I'm not a man... By the way, don't men wrap golf clubs around trees, throw their baseball bats, kick the dog and engage in other childish behavior when they TOTALLY SUCK at some game? I gave it a year of almost-daily play, it just wasn't worth it any more. Destroying it was the surest way to break the addication and not come back for more punishment the next day. Had I decided "oh, sell it on Ebay", I might very well have gone back to it.

Flame: Set it up so you can win!
Answer: What part of the "Small archipelago world as the Babylonians on King level...won easily...got boring after half a dozen times..." do you not understand?!

Flame: Do you take your baseball bat out and break it?!
Answer: No, I'm good at baseball, and bowling, and programming computers, and guitar, and Civ I, Civ II, Call to Power I & II, MOO I & II, Doom, etc. A good game should be fun first, this game was just too much like work. If I want to work, I'll put in overtime.

Flame: Give it to the kid next door!
Answer: Assuming I had some - which I don't - I could give the kid next door crack, but I have morals.

I rather expected some replies of "loser", from gamers. I told a few non-gaming friends of mine what I'd done last night and they thought it was a good thing to crawl out of my computer and back into the real world. Instead of sitting up until 1:00 a.m. getting frustrated at settler diarrhea, I practiced guitar. That was MUCH more fun. In a few months, I should be up to a level where I can play with other people.

 

[Sylith]

Originally posted by robehans
I dont get it... do you have a lot of extra money or something??

Not that it matters, but yes. Besides, do you get your money back if you play it X number of times? In finance they taught us "not to try to get your money out of something", it's a "sunk cost", once the money is spent, it's spent, and you shouldn't let considerations of "We paid X dollars for this" influence one's decisions.

freaking stupid...

Unlike men continuing WW I for years after it became apparant to all the participants that even the victors would have paid too dearly for the victory, but they didn't want to end it because "We've already sacrificed so much". THAT'S stupid!

buys a game and then destroys it...

Well, I did play it a thousand times first...

you could've passed it on to the kid next door or something...

See my crack cocaine comment in the other post.

... he would've prolly appreciated the game much more than what the trash-can does...

Prolly?

Your a really bad looser...

No, I'm a good loser (not looser by the way). I stopped playing because I recognized the futility of the exercise, not because I was mad. I made a very calm and reasoned decision, and have had no regrets about it.

You should take it like a man, and if you dont want to play it... then DONT,

I'm not a man! And I won't be playing it any longer. Did you miss that point somehow?

By the way, it's "you're a god" not "your a god" It's a contraction. Shouldn't a MAN have master basic grammer before game play???

 

[SirJethro]

Originally posted by Sylith
Well, now I have my life back.

Lilith

Not quite. You are still here.

 

[Sylith]

Originally posted by SirJethro


Not quite. You are still here.

HAR! Hey, I had to check how I'd get flamed. Also, I was curious whether I'd inspire others, it seems that I have not. Oh well...

Lilith

 

[Civanator]

hey if you didn't break the CD i would've taken it

Well, you are right, if you wanted more work yyou can work overtime, cause it usually takes a while to get a good empire running.

 

[DaDoo]

inspire others? I seriously doubt it.

It's nice that you've won half a dozen times playing on archepelago maps on king level. But different map size and different land/ocean coverage calls for totally different way of playing to win. There is no plug-n-chug way of play that will work on any map. Flame or not, the way your original message is worded, it does make you sound like a sore loser.


by the way, if you want to pick on other people's grammAr, make sure you spellcheck.

 

[alexander dumas]

Sylith,

Go surf.

 

[Sylith]

grammAr, make sure you spellcheck. [/B]

Damn, I figured I miss something! I misspelled apparent to. Does anyone see the mistake in the previous sentence - I hope so.

As far as grammar goes, it's the apostrophes that get me. I wrote tons of papers in grad school, and spell checkers generally won't catch an incorrect use of an apostrophe. With spelling, my thought became "get it close and let the spell checker figure it out". Of course, that doesn't work with "to", "two" and "too", or "your" and "you're". You've got to catch those yourself. When to use "its" as opposed to "it's" used to drive me nuts. I still have problems with "sit" and "sat" and "set". It bugs me when people are obviously sloppy, like writing "looser" as in "make it looser" when they really meant "loser". Unless they were going for "looooooser", in which case they should have used enough "o's" to make it obvious they were going for emphasis as opposed to not knowing the spelling of common words. I certainly wouldn't rag on anyone who misspelled
"antidisestablishmentarianism" in an email. Misusing the "too, two, to" thing is another one that bugs the grad student in me.

In my programming department I see writing that is absolutely appalling. I swear some of my co-workers are functionally illiterate.

Oh, I was talking to my ex last night and she said "You should have tossed it in the microwave." Woah, THAT would have been cool. Too bad I didn't think of that one myself.

 

[Sylith]

Originally posted by alexander dumas
Sylith,

Go surf.

I'm not a very good swimmer

 

[Japher]

Hehe

Deinitly a child of the '80s.. competition destroys all the fun..especialy cometition against yourself. Don't worry 'bout it, I never solved solved a Rubik's Cube, and I shattered it into about 60 peices, and it got a lot easier.

It's like good ol' Homer once said (Homer Simpson that is):

"If something is to hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit and your unicycle and we'll go inside and watch TV."

--add broken CIVIII disc to that list Bart...

 

[narmox]

Seems we have a feminist here, always whining about men breaking things and waging war.. lol

Sylith, your post was funny Thanks

Anyways, it's just a game. I still don't understand why so many people get so emotional over it, and then blame the game for wasting their life. They waste their own life by choosing to play, the get emotional by ignoring choices to be rational, etc.

I'll stop here before I write a big rant

 

[Sylith]

Deinitly a child of the '80s.. competition destroys all the fun..

Try the 60's smart a**. And there's a difference between competition and blatant cheating. Competition implies a contest. A contest implies a game where the outcome is in doubt. Yes, I could set it up so "I win". The small archipelago worlds, no settler diarreha by the computer then. It'd be lucky to have two cities down while my Babylonians had three and we started crushing them with my Bowman, yeah! But that got boring after awhile. There was no competition, the computer didn't have a chance, it was boring. I don't really like playing the ICS strategy, although it's certainly effective. I prefer having my cities five squares apart so they can grow really large. You could even play that way on King level in Civ I and win. I did it a number of times. Lost half the time too, but that kept it interesting. In this version, I couldn't find a setting where I could play the game in the manner I enjoyed and get a decent contest. I found I could win on tiny maps, but anytime I played on larger maps - TOAST!
Granted, an idiot should be able to win any time on Chieftain level with any style. But that's boring. Level two - whatever it's called - was pretty easy too. Too easy really. There were certain ways of coping with the cheating of the AI you HAD to adopt to win, in any version. In the earlier versions, it was annihilate all the AI's. I could go for that, after I found they were all back-stabbing S.O.B.'s, I wanted to crush them anyway. I did try winning peacefully many times, and eventually gave up on that strategy. On this version, not only was genocide necessary, it seemed you HAD to play ICS to win. Which means micro-managing a BUNCH of teeny-weenie cities. Can you say "BORING"?! Come on, Moo2 was fun, remember how allies you'd had the whole game WOULDN'T suddenly turn on when you started to dominate the universe, that they'd actually VOTE FOR YOU in the grand poobah election (whatever they called it) to win a diplomatic victory. Gosh, that was refreshing. A computer AI who'd make a treaty to be your buddy, and actually HONOR it??? I may give Moo3 a chance, if it's not made by the same programming team. I belive it is however, isn't it?

especialy cometition against yourself.

What does that have to do with playing against an AI? Suppose when you played golf and you were on the green and your putt was heading for the hole - and the hole suddenly moved. Or if you were bowling and it looked as if you had it heading right for the pocket, and suddenly some unseen force pushed your ball into the gutter. How'd you deal with that situation? Playing guitar or programming are competitions against myself. Playing against the AI in any games cannot be considered competition against yourself.

Don't worry 'bout it, I never solved solved a Rubik's Cube, and I shattered it into about 60 peices, and it got a lot easier.

Actually, if you were really careful, you could disassemble it and put it back together again just like new. I be a genie-ous and dat Rubik's cube made me feel stoooooopid.

--add broken CIVIII disc to that list Bart...

Should have microwaved it. God I wish I'd thought of that first.

Lilith

 

[Gastric ReFlux]

Should have microwaved it. God I wish I'd thought of that first.

Umm, you do realize that microwaves require water in order to cook something. Sure, you'll probably get some wicked sorts of flames like if you put aluminum foil in a microwave, but you would most likely not only be out a computer game, but a microwave as well.

You should really examine what your ex says more closely.

 

[Sylith]

Originally posted by narmox
Seems we have a feminist here, always whining about men breaking things and waging war.. lol

Sylith, your post was funny Thanks

I may have exaggerated just a bit, for dramatic effect.

Anyways, it's just a game. I still don't understand why so many people get so emotional over it,

People seem to be really upset about what I did. I don't get it.

and then blame the game for wasting their life. They waste their own life by choosing to play,

That's what I realized last night. I finally found myself asking
"I've been spending HUGE amounts of time playing this, and I'm not even enjoying it. What am I doing?!

the get emotional by ignoring choices to be rational, etc.

What was irrational? I finally arrived at the conclusion I was addicted to something I wasn't enjoying. I had to sever the connection. Had I decided to hold it and sell it on Ebay, I knew I'd find myself playing it again, just to see if I'd suddenly figure it all out. That obviously wasn't a solution - for me. I had to dispose of it immediately, while I was in the moment. I think my resolution of the situation was rather effective. Yes, I could end up buying another copy, but I doubt that will happen. To paraphrase Dirty Harry, a woman has to know her limitations. Mine was I wouldn't get away from an unpleasant yet addictive game if I didn't throw it away or destroy it. So I did. Big deal. My fifty bucks, what does anyone else care? What I wonder about is the boards being full of messages saying how much they're hating the new version, yet they haven't stopped playing it. For instance, the user Zouave; geez, he hates this game far more than I ever did. Why does he still play?

Lilith