Something I've noticed about Unit upgrades

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civ4lyfe

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Well, lets use a simple example with Iron upgrading warrior to swordsman.

So lets say I have 5 cities, A, B, C, D, E, for simplicity.

Town E is the furthest away from A, my capitol and also has the smalles pop. of lets say 2. This town E also has Iron in its vicinity, so I take a worker and connect the Iron to town E which is in turn connected to all my other cities and A the capitol.

I am then able to build swordsman at every town connected, but upgrading is a different story. It seems I can only upgrade my warriors to swords If i put them in my capitol, or another random city with a somewhat large population.

this always seems to be the case for me... Only certain cities allow me to upgrade units and I have the Gold to do it. It just doesn't seem to make sense, and gets annoying when I have to take my units from border cities all the way back to a capitol or one of these 'larger' cities that allows me to upgrade. Its also pretty frustrating when I have to wander from city to city until I find one that does upgrade, and Im wasting my units time when it could be somewhere else defending or fighting.

Is there a reason for this, I can't seem to find anything that wouldnt allow me to upgrade at certain cities when I zoom in. This isn't only for Iron and swordsman, its also the case for salpeter and upgrading pikes to muskets. My cities are all connected and can all build the units, but only certain ones are able to upgrade, and there seems to be no rhyme or reason behind it. I seem to remember playing civ 3 back in the day that I could upgrade units anywhere as long as they were connected.
 
What? You need a barracks to upgrade units? I think I just heard about that somewhere else . . . Hmmm . . . let me think . . . :crazyeye:

@civ4lyfe
To be honest, I had the same confusion when I started too. And then there are sudden memory lapses that make up for the rest of it . . . :lol:

My confusion was compounded when I build the Art of War (not really understanding what it did but, hey, you've got to build all those wonders, right?) and suddenly I could upgrade in every city. Then next game I couldn't do it anymore and I just couldn't understand what was wrong with my game!
 
Raliuven said:
What? You need a barracks to upgrade units? I think I just heard about that somewhere else . . . Hmmm . . . let me think . . . :crazyeye:

@civ4lyfe
To be honest, I had the same confusion when I started too. And then there are sudden memory lapses that make up for the rest of it . . . :lol:

My confusion was compounded when I build the Art of War (not really understanding what it did but, hey, you've got to build all those wonders, right?) and suddenly I could upgrade in every city. Then next game I couldn't do it anymore and I just couldn't understand what was wrong with my game!
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In other news:
"Whoah! This revolution takes long this time!"
"Huh? In that other game I only needed a few granaries"
"Can't believe upgrading that infantry costs so much."
"Build that mine already... I feel like I need an army of workers, must be the terrain."
"Who are these jokers?! Where are my Legionnaires!"
 
And the best of all times:

"What's wrong with the darn Coastal Fortress? I've build like 50 and they never do anything!"
 
You also have to have some movement left for the unit. So gold, any needed resources (iron in this case), barracks and some movement.
 
you also need an airport to upgrade air units, but I don't think you were thinking about that.

@ Rauliven- that was exactly how I felt when I first played Civ 3, "oh coastal fortresses, take that frigates!"
 
haha, thanks.... yea this is all stuff i am noticing little by little. It doesn't come all at once like Civ 5 does and lays everything out for you. You actually have to learn some of the stuff as you play...


and yes, as someone said in an eariler post, many a times, I do build sun tzus art of war, so if i dont read what it does, I dont notice that every city has an upgrade ability becauise they auto get a barrack.

sorry if i seem stupud, but im still learning civ 3, it is a little bit more complicated than 5.
 
civ4lyfe said:
haha, thanks.... yea this is all stuff i am noticing little by little. It doesn't come all at once like Civ 5 does and lays everything out for you. You actually have to learn some of the stuff as you play...


and yes, as someone said in an eariler post, many a times, I do build sun tzus art of war, so if i dont read what it does, I dont notice that every city has an upgrade ability becauise they auto get a barrack.

sorry if i seem stupud, but im still learning civ 3, it is a little bit more complicated than 5.
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You're never stupid to ask.
 
civ4lyfe said:
haha, thanks.... yea this is all stuff i am noticing little by little. It doesn't come all at once like Civ 5 does and lays everything out for you. You actually have to learn some of the stuff as you play...


and yes, as someone said in an eariler post, many a times, I do build sun tzus art of war, so if i dont read what it does, I dont notice that every city has an upgrade ability becauise they auto get a barrack.

sorry if i seem stupud, but im still learning civ 3, it is a little bit more complicated than 5.
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Always remember, the dumbest question is the one you don't ask. The question wasn't stupid, anyway. It took me a while to figure that out when I started. There are a lot of things in this game that don't occur right away. What took me the longest time was realizing Democracy wasn't worth it. I spent years gunning for Democracy before I came to the forum and realized I was just hurting myself. And the Great Library is famous for seducing new players but reading the manual it sounds like an awesome wonder.
 
Ataxerxes said:
And the Great Library is famous for seducing new players but reading the manual it sounds like an awesome wonder.
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Well, it really is an awesome wonder, you just have to know when it is needed and when it is waste. In an always war game it is a lifesaver, keeping you up in tech when you can't trade, and at higher levels it can help you keep up or jump ahead (if you use the don't learn education and then capture it trick). On the lower levels it is of a lot less use however, as the AI is useless at researching.
 
creamcheese said:
Well, it really is an awesome wonder, you just have to know when it is needed and when it is waste. In an always war game it is a lifesaver, keeping you up in tech when you can't trade, and at higher levels it can help you keep up or jump ahead (if you use the don't learn education and then capture it trick). On the lower levels it is of a lot less use however, as the AI is useless at researching.
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I was in a game where I was on an isolated island far into the Medieval age. (Surrounded by ocean)
I had to research all tech by myself. If I knew, I would have went for the GL.
 
Theov said:
I was in a game where I was on an isolated island far into the Medieval age. (Surrounded by ocean)
I had to research all tech by myself. If I knew, I would have went for the GL.
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Well it would not have worked then, you have to know AIs for it to work...
 
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