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Spy Hard

Which spy mission gives you the most bang for your EP buck?

  • Sabotage Improvement

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • Sabotage Building

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • Steal Treasury

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • Spread Culture

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Poison Water

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Forment Unhappiness

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • Support City Revolt

    Votes: 27 24.3%
  • Steal Technology

    Votes: 24 21.6%
  • Influence Civics

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Influence Religion

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • Perform Counterespionage

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • Kill Spy

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • None, the passive benefits of spying are better.

    Votes: 27 24.3%

  • Total voters
    111

Pinstar

Ringtailed Regent
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Which spy mission do you think gives you the most bang for your EP buck?

Feel free to post the best situations to use said spy mission.

My favorite is influence religion. In my last game, Isabella created a monster buddest block of nations. 5 of the 7 civs in that game where part of that block. I had founded confusionism. Sharing a border with Spain, I didn't feel like having a good relation with her, or joining her party. What I did do was mass-spread my religion to William, who was Spain's neighbor to the west. Once I spread to many of his cities, I sent over a spy and converted him over to me. That broke up the buddist block and later gave me an ally when I went to go wipe Isabella off the map.
 
City revolt is my personally favourite - a simple way of destroying city defense pre-catapults, and still a useful aid to siege engines later on.
 
Agreed on city revolt, great way to ninja a big city in one shot.

I've never actually seen the "kill spy" option, is that only available in extremely limited circumstances, or is it just prohibitively expensive?
 
Support City Revolt!

(who needs artillery? ;))

exactly.


Agreed on city revolt, great way to ninja a big city in one shot.

I've never actually seen the "kill spy" option, is that only available in extremely limited circumstances, or is it just prohibitively expensive?

Only if there is a spy - visible to you - from another team on the same square. I think.
 
Isn't city revolt a bit expansive?
 
Is "Kill Spy" an actual mission? I can never even see the enemy spies, even when I tried to test it out in World Builder and I knew where the enemy spy was and was going to move. I even had him surrounded with Spies and in another case Great Spies. He was just killed/caught, but I never saw him.
 
Isn't city revolt a bit expansive?

Getting an enemy capital (beating 40-60% cultural defense plus walls early on is painful even if possible) pre-catapults makes a huge difference to the game. Later on even quite large artillery stacks can take several turns to deal with walls/castles, and it can be preferable to spend a few hundred EPs to nail the city defense and then use them for collateral damage than to sit their bombarding for ages while the enemy whips units.
 
I like forcing others to change their civics when I'm ruining them with my corporations. Force them to free market or environmentalism every time they try to have State Property or mercantilism.
 
How do you know if an AI steals a tech from you?

post patch 3.13 I have gotten messages on the screen that a technology was stolen and it lists the actual technology that was stolen...but it doesn't say who took it:confused: .
 
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