StKNES5: A New Lease on NES
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To: Hungary, Brandenburg, Silesia, Slovakia
From: Rome
We offer you all 5-turn NAP. We assure you that this pact will not be broken by Romans. Rome has no intentions to start war unless is provoked, as was the case with Dalmatia.
From: Rome
We offer you all 5-turn NAP. We assure you that this pact will not be broken by Romans. Rome has no intentions to start war unless is provoked, as was the case with Dalmatia.
Kamilian
Deity
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OOC:
Alright, I've finally finished the front page. You may notice, in NPCs, that suddenly they have much more population than they did before. That is because I finally updated their population to what I think it would be for each nation had I done so consistently every turn. So, unfortunately, your unfair advantage population/military-recruitment wise over the NPCs has ended.
Deadline will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Central Time US, since it took me so long to get the stats.
Also, on the map, I did forget to do Malagasy expansion and the Aztec roads. Sorry.
And Dubrovnik is annexed by Israel, since they were the army that managed to conquer it first. Israel may feel free to give it to Byzantium, or Rome, or even just keep it for themselves. Its just that its impossible to make it known on the map that the city itself is the only thing taken by Israel.
North of Austria are Brandenburg (light-neon-green), Silesia (the color I don't know the name of), and Slovakia (pink).
Most nations within relatively close proximity have contact. So Malaysia, for instance, has contact with all of Eastern Asian coast and the Oceanic nations.
IC:
From Brandenburg, Silesia, and Slovakia
To Rome:
Withdraw from Austria and we will be more than happy to start good diplomatic relations with you.
From Hungary
To Rome:
If you do not make any more thrusts into un-occupied Austrian territory, we will sign a NAP with you. However, if you do continue invading more of Austria, then our defense pact with them will activate and we will be at war. The ball is in your court now.
From Hungary
To Byzantium:
Yeah, we will sign a NAP for 3 turns and hope that we will be able to renew. Is Dacia, whom we hear is joined with you diplomatically, of the same mind? As you are concerning this pact?
From Shanghai, Fuzhou, and Vietnam
To Malaysia:
Yeah, we should coordinate
Alright, I've finally finished the front page. You may notice, in NPCs, that suddenly they have much more population than they did before. That is because I finally updated their population to what I think it would be for each nation had I done so consistently every turn. So, unfortunately, your unfair advantage population/military-recruitment wise over the NPCs has ended.
Deadline will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Central Time US, since it took me so long to get the stats.
Also, on the map, I did forget to do Malagasy expansion and the Aztec roads. Sorry.
And Dubrovnik is annexed by Israel, since they were the army that managed to conquer it first. Israel may feel free to give it to Byzantium, or Rome, or even just keep it for themselves. Its just that its impossible to make it known on the map that the city itself is the only thing taken by Israel.
North of Austria are Brandenburg (light-neon-green), Silesia (the color I don't know the name of), and Slovakia (pink).
Most nations within relatively close proximity have contact. So Malaysia, for instance, has contact with all of Eastern Asian coast and the Oceanic nations.
IC:
From Brandenburg, Silesia, and Slovakia
To Rome:
Withdraw from Austria and we will be more than happy to start good diplomatic relations with you.
From Hungary
To Rome:
If you do not make any more thrusts into un-occupied Austrian territory, we will sign a NAP with you. However, if you do continue invading more of Austria, then our defense pact with them will activate and we will be at war. The ball is in your court now.
From Hungary
To Byzantium:
Yeah, we will sign a NAP for 3 turns and hope that we will be able to renew. Is Dacia, whom we hear is joined with you diplomatically, of the same mind? As you are concerning this pact?
From Shanghai, Fuzhou, and Vietnam
To Malaysia:
Yeah, we should coordinate
tommy_toon
Emperor
From Eire
To Rome
It appears we are not the only one's that feel threatened by your occupation of Austria. Do you still wish to enter war against us?
To Rome
It appears we are not the only one's that feel threatened by your occupation of Austria. Do you still wish to enter war against us?
Israelite9191
You should be reading
Kamilian- I know that I have mentioned this before, but nothing has been done about it. I currently have three trade routes going (Byzantium, Egypt, and Georgia), but I am getting no benefits form them and there is no mention of them in my stats. Please look in to that. Oh, and you included Jiddah in my Arab area, right? Because if I don't have a port there is no point to the colony. I am just going to assume that because of map constraints Jiddah is there but part of the dot representing Mecca.
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The wise King Solomon knew that he had taken his wisdom for granted for to long. While he himself was very learned, his people were not. While smarter than many, there were still merely average. Yeshivas (Jewish schools, also act as universities for non-religious studies) must be built and the glory and word of the Torah spread to all his people. Jerusalem would become a haven for education, people would come from all over the known world to study here. Actually, the king decided in all his wisdom, people would not come just for Jerusalem, but for the education of all of Israel. It was time that the wise king lived up to his reputation.
But, as always, there was other work to be done as well. Israel already had one of the largest, if not the largest, fleets in the world. And yet, her ships failed to even establish the colonies of Iran that the king and Knesset had so wanted. A larger navy would be required if Israel was to become the maritime power it was meant to be. New ports would also be needed, and contact with distant nations and peoples to. Yes, the mind and the sea, these would be the endeavors of this leg of the Wise King's long reign.
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To Byzantium
From Israel
The king and Knesset request the grand empire for Byzantium, a bastion of culture standing against the tides, grant my small nation one request. We ask that you grant us some of the Dalmatian countryside around Dubrovnik so that our people can have land to cultivate and settle. For, as you know, a city does not eat the trade it brings in, but the grain that it grows. We would gladly compensate you with a gift of 50 of our ships to guard your waters. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzatium!
To Portugal
From Israel
The Wise King, his majesty, King Solomon in accordance with the wishes of the always just Knesset have an offer to make you. We require ports in the west of the Mediterranean, and you require ships to fight your wars. We would gladly offer you 100 ships in exchange for Sardinia and the Balearic Islands. I guarantee you that Portuguese citizens would be equal in every way to Israelite citizens. You would still have the ability to use the cities fro trade purposes and other such things. we believe it is in the best interests of both our nations for you to give us control of these tiny little islands in exchange for the ships you need to guard your ports. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Portugalia!
To Fez
From Israel
The Wise King, known throughout the world for his wise judgment, asks that a Non-Aggression Pact be formed between our to peoples. It would last for 3 ages (aka turns). We hold that our peoples should maintain close relations. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L' Sultan L'Fez!
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1. Invest 2 in education
2. Invest 3 in navy (23,200X.01=232 232X3=696)
3. Have navy withdraw from protection of Israel-Byzantium route
4. Have 1/3 of navy explore East African coast with 1/4 of army on board. Establish cities of Hobyo, Mogadishu, and Kismaayo, Somalia; Mombassa, Kenya; Zanzibar; and Dar es Salaam and Kilwa, Kenya. Continue down coast to establish communications with peoples in Madagascar and southern Africa. Stop and re-stock along the way down Africa's coast and fish off of the side of the boat.
5. Have 1/6 of navy continue down west African coast.
6. Have 1/6 of navy, loaded with 1/8 of army, establish Hormuz in Iran (right at the Straight of Hormuz between Oman and Iran), then continue on to explore the Indian coast. Establish city of Male in the Maldives and colonize the islands. Use Socotra as base.
7. Continue expanding road network, particularly in Africa where all new cities are to be connected by road, where possible, and all old cities are to be connected by road.
8. Send Kohanes to Dubrovnik, Iraq, Yemen, Byzantium, Rome, Silesia, Slovakia, Austria and Egypt. Continue preaching in Georgia.
9. Send 65 ships to Byzantium in exchange for land, as the negotiations detail.
2. I Portuguese accept diplo, have remaining third of navy explore up the European coast. They are to bring 1/4 of army with them and settlers who are to found cities wherever possible.
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Nation: Israel
Player: Israelite9191
Capital: Jerusalem
Government: Theocratic Monarchy
Population: 23,200
Economy: Wealthier 5/0/6
Education: Average +3/5
Age: Iron Age
Army: 1,080 troops Iron Age
Navy: 301 ships Iron Age
UU: 340 Macabees (good guerilla skills, loyal to Judaism)
Religion: Early Judaism
Culture: Average
Confidence: Respecting
Projects: Temple of Solomon (+1 Confidence, +1 Culture, increase devotion/popularity of Judaism) (3/6)
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The wise King Solomon knew that he had taken his wisdom for granted for to long. While he himself was very learned, his people were not. While smarter than many, there were still merely average. Yeshivas (Jewish schools, also act as universities for non-religious studies) must be built and the glory and word of the Torah spread to all his people. Jerusalem would become a haven for education, people would come from all over the known world to study here. Actually, the king decided in all his wisdom, people would not come just for Jerusalem, but for the education of all of Israel. It was time that the wise king lived up to his reputation.
But, as always, there was other work to be done as well. Israel already had one of the largest, if not the largest, fleets in the world. And yet, her ships failed to even establish the colonies of Iran that the king and Knesset had so wanted. A larger navy would be required if Israel was to become the maritime power it was meant to be. New ports would also be needed, and contact with distant nations and peoples to. Yes, the mind and the sea, these would be the endeavors of this leg of the Wise King's long reign.
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To Byzantium
From Israel
The king and Knesset request the grand empire for Byzantium, a bastion of culture standing against the tides, grant my small nation one request. We ask that you grant us some of the Dalmatian countryside around Dubrovnik so that our people can have land to cultivate and settle. For, as you know, a city does not eat the trade it brings in, but the grain that it grows. We would gladly compensate you with a gift of 50 of our ships to guard your waters. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzatium!
To Portugal
From Israel
The Wise King, his majesty, King Solomon in accordance with the wishes of the always just Knesset have an offer to make you. We require ports in the west of the Mediterranean, and you require ships to fight your wars. We would gladly offer you 100 ships in exchange for Sardinia and the Balearic Islands. I guarantee you that Portuguese citizens would be equal in every way to Israelite citizens. You would still have the ability to use the cities fro trade purposes and other such things. we believe it is in the best interests of both our nations for you to give us control of these tiny little islands in exchange for the ships you need to guard your ports. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Portugalia!
To Fez
From Israel
The Wise King, known throughout the world for his wise judgment, asks that a Non-Aggression Pact be formed between our to peoples. It would last for 3 ages (aka turns). We hold that our peoples should maintain close relations. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L' Sultan L'Fez!
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1. Invest 2 in education
2. Invest 3 in navy (23,200X.01=232 232X3=696)
3. Have navy withdraw from protection of Israel-Byzantium route
4. Have 1/3 of navy explore East African coast with 1/4 of army on board. Establish cities of Hobyo, Mogadishu, and Kismaayo, Somalia; Mombassa, Kenya; Zanzibar; and Dar es Salaam and Kilwa, Kenya. Continue down coast to establish communications with peoples in Madagascar and southern Africa. Stop and re-stock along the way down Africa's coast and fish off of the side of the boat.
5. Have 1/6 of navy continue down west African coast.
6. Have 1/6 of navy, loaded with 1/8 of army, establish Hormuz in Iran (right at the Straight of Hormuz between Oman and Iran), then continue on to explore the Indian coast. Establish city of Male in the Maldives and colonize the islands. Use Socotra as base.
7. Continue expanding road network, particularly in Africa where all new cities are to be connected by road, where possible, and all old cities are to be connected by road.
8. Send Kohanes to Dubrovnik, Iraq, Yemen, Byzantium, Rome, Silesia, Slovakia, Austria and Egypt. Continue preaching in Georgia.
9. Send 65 ships to Byzantium in exchange for land, as the negotiations detail.
*Secret*
1. If Portuguese refuse diplo have remaining third of navy with 1/2 of army attack Balearics and Sardinia. Attack is to be conducted in basically the same way as in Dubrovnik, aka: pretend to be trade ships, use flaming arrows, attack before anything is known about the attack, yada yada yada. But, also, in the Balearics, take the neighboring isles to the actual cities in the same fashion, before anything is known to them about the occurrences on the other isles. Stop all news leaking, by whatever means necessary. Kill no civlians if possible.2. I Portuguese accept diplo, have remaining third of navy explore up the European coast. They are to bring 1/4 of army with them and settlers who are to found cities wherever possible.
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Nation: Israel
Player: Israelite9191
Capital: Jerusalem
Government: Theocratic Monarchy
Population: 23,200
Economy: Wealthier 5/0/6
Education: Average +3/5
Age: Iron Age
Army: 1,080 troops Iron Age
Navy: 301 ships Iron Age
UU: 340 Macabees (good guerilla skills, loyal to Judaism)
Religion: Early Judaism
Culture: Average
Confidence: Respecting
Projects: Temple of Solomon (+1 Confidence, +1 Culture, increase devotion/popularity of Judaism) (3/6)
tommy_toon
Emperor
Just so you know Israelite, secret diplo in the Nes thread is fair game for everyone.
Israelite9191
You should be reading
What secret diplo? I have secret orders, but I posted them because I am lazy and not to worried if human players read them. But if you are thinking about my negotiations with Portugal, I didn't mark them as secret because, as far as I know, I have no contact with you or any of your allies and thus no need to worry about you taking my little country away form me. All I am supposed to know is that Portugal is in a losing war, that they have something I want, and that I have something that they need in the situation they are in.
Israelite9191
You should be reading
Kamilian- I see now where the trade routes are posted, so never mind on that. I also see taht I already have a NAP with Fez, so cancel that diplo.
tommy_toon
Emperor
@Kamilian - I forgot to put in the Portugal PM that Eire is waiting for a response from France and Belgium on the treaty.
IC:
From Eire
To Byzantium
We turned our head when you and Rome invaded Dalmatia, but we can look away no further while Rome occupies a soveirgn nation of Europe. With a closing coming to the French and Eire War are forces can be completely occupied with Rome. Please, do not make us busy ourselves with you as well.
IC:
From Eire
To Byzantium
We turned our head when you and Rome invaded Dalmatia, but we can look away no further while Rome occupies a soveirgn nation of Europe. With a closing coming to the French and Eire War are forces can be completely occupied with Rome. Please, do not make us busy ourselves with you as well.
Israelite9191
You should be reading
To Portugal
From Israel
The king and Knesset, in all wisdom, justice, and glory, wish to make another deal. We believe that the situation, even if peace seems to be coming, is so dire for you that your navy needs to be beefed up. We have decided to raise our offer from 100 ships to 120 ships. For, even if peace is gained with your currrent enemies, who is to say that others will not take advatage of your weakened state and attack you? And if peace is signed with our northern borders, then the only way to attack you would be by sea, and if you have a strong navy, you can stop that from happening. So please, for the sake of your nation and people, take another look at our offer. L'Chaim! L' Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Portugalia!
To Byzantium
From Israel
No matter how wise the Wise King is, even he can not read the minds of others. We ask that you send a response to our diplomatic negotiations. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzantium!
From Israel
The king and Knesset, in all wisdom, justice, and glory, wish to make another deal. We believe that the situation, even if peace seems to be coming, is so dire for you that your navy needs to be beefed up. We have decided to raise our offer from 100 ships to 120 ships. For, even if peace is gained with your currrent enemies, who is to say that others will not take advatage of your weakened state and attack you? And if peace is signed with our northern borders, then the only way to attack you would be by sea, and if you have a strong navy, you can stop that from happening. So please, for the sake of your nation and people, take another look at our offer. L'Chaim! L' Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Portugalia!
To Byzantium
From Israel
No matter how wise the Wise King is, even he can not read the minds of others. We ask that you send a response to our diplomatic negotiations. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzantium!
Finmaster
The White Ghost
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From Byzantium:
To Israel:
For 50 ships, we are willing to give you some land near the city. The city itself, however, will remain under Byzantine control. Also I think you should post a map so me - as well as our mod - could see what kind of area exactly are you talking about.
To Israel:
For 50 ships, we are willing to give you some land near the city. The city itself, however, will remain under Byzantine control. Also I think you should post a map so me - as well as our mod - could see what kind of area exactly are you talking about.
blackheart
unenlightened
* up navy to iron age
* link eastern cities by road
* launch a massive invasion to the west (I forget the country name), a full assault on all fronts
* destroy their navy with my superior navy
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Nation: Travancore
Player: The Kerala/ Blackheart
Capital:Travancore
Government: Oligarchy
Population: 46,500
Economy: Stable 3/0/4
Education: Above Average +0/6
Age: Iron Age
Army: 3,160 troops Iron Age
Navy: 319 ships Bronze Age
UU:
Religion: Hinduism
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects: Free Education
Iron Maidens (encourage growth of family--->population boom)
* link eastern cities by road
* launch a massive invasion to the west (I forget the country name), a full assault on all fronts
* destroy their navy with my superior navy
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Nation: Travancore
Player: The Kerala/ Blackheart
Capital:Travancore
Government: Oligarchy
Population: 46,500
Economy: Stable 3/0/4
Education: Above Average +0/6
Age: Iron Age
Army: 3,160 troops Iron Age
Navy: 319 ships Bronze Age
UU:
Religion: Hinduism
Culture: Average
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects: Free Education
Iron Maidens (encourage growth of family--->population boom)
Israelite9191
You should be reading
To Byzantium
From Israel
The Wise King graciously accpets your offer. Unfortunately, he must inform you that you are mistaken as to the identity of the controling power of Dubrovnik (OOC- read post 505). It is also unfaortunate that our cartographers are busy at this moment and unable to create a map as you request (OOC- I am REALLY bad at maps, so if you post a map I will tell you wether I agree with it or not, and if I dont, I will tell you what I think should be done to it as best as I can). But, once again, the king and Knesset of the kingdom of the chosen people are grateful to you. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzantium!
From Israel
The Wise King graciously accpets your offer. Unfortunately, he must inform you that you are mistaken as to the identity of the controling power of Dubrovnik (OOC- read post 505). It is also unfaortunate that our cartographers are busy at this moment and unable to create a map as you request (OOC- I am REALLY bad at maps, so if you post a map I will tell you wether I agree with it or not, and if I dont, I will tell you what I think should be done to it as best as I can). But, once again, the king and Knesset of the kingdom of the chosen people are grateful to you. L'Chaim! L'Shalom! L'Yisroel! L'Byzantium!
General Garej gazed over the dense jungles of Borneo from his observation post high in the trees.
"Yes." he said quietly, "This place'll be perfect."
He shouted down to his lieutenants.
"You know the orders, now here's the plan. The system starts over there." he said, pointing over to a faraway hill near the southern ocean, "Continues to here, then ends there." the general concluded, pointing to a cliff far to the north.
"My other men are setting up the same defenses all over this island. There's no way the Nihonese will get through."
Garej looked quietly at the sunset for a few moments.
"The designs are in the command tent." he said suddenly.
The two officers, began climbing down the ladder.
"What a beautiful land." thought Garej, "So wonderful that it will soon be ours."
"Yes." he said quietly, "This place'll be perfect."
He shouted down to his lieutenants.
"You know the orders, now here's the plan. The system starts over there." he said, pointing over to a faraway hill near the southern ocean, "Continues to here, then ends there." the general concluded, pointing to a cliff far to the north.
"My other men are setting up the same defenses all over this island. There's no way the Nihonese will get through."
Garej looked quietly at the sunset for a few moments.
"The designs are in the command tent." he said suddenly.
The two officers, began climbing down the ladder.
"What a beautiful land." thought Garej, "So wonderful that it will soon be ours."
Finmaster
The White Ghost
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From Byzantium
To Hungary:
If it's up to us, the Dacians won't attack you while you are having a NAP with Byzantium.
To Dacia:
Please don't attack Hungary while Byzantine is on a NAP with them. It would create a huge conflict of interrests.
To Hungary:
If it's up to us, the Dacians won't attack you while you are having a NAP with Byzantium.
To Dacia:
Please don't attack Hungary while Byzantine is on a NAP with them. It would create a huge conflict of interrests.
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