STR-03 Viking Traders

Don't forget we also still need to build the Oracle. Should we go for Confucianism or Metal Casting as a free tech? Bede, I suggest you research Priesthood after The Wheel comes in. If we're going for Metal Casting (which is my personal preference for the Colossus), then Iron Working should come right after Priesthood.

Roster:
1) Strauss
2) Pvblivs
3) karr1255 --> just played
4) Bede --> UP!
5) Asperger --> on deck
 
karr1255 said:
If we get the oracle i would pick metal casting without a doubt and try for the colossus. Does anyone know the usual building date for the temple of artemis, because i have no idea.

This being my first serious Warlords game, I don't have any idea either;)

@ Colossus: I think everyone here will agree we need this one. It would be foolish to pass up on it in a game where all except one of our cities will be coastal
 
Woops. :eek: Good roster. Playing, sleeping, another set already played.

Temple of Artemis is about the same as Oracle. I only suggested because we've got marble. Marble allows us to build two wonders in a time we would have needed for one otherwise.

I agree on the Colossus. This has priority but isn't that urgent as the Temple as Metal Casting isn't _that_ early usually. And we've got Copper which makes the Colossus easy as well.
 
Got it. Will need another 24 to finish.
 
In one of my own games, which was also monarch and epic, the Temple of Artemis got build at 125BC. So you have a little more time than with the oracle which usually falls at ~800BC. So a date to remember for the Temple on monarch should probably be 100BC. Hope this helps for the upcoming turns.
 
Got another town on Asperger's spot 3, got the Monument whipped into Uppsala and started another settler to get the benefit of those clams and cows. Uppsala is working on the Temple of Artemis. Masonry is due in 1 and we can research Priesthood for the Oracle just about the time the Marble hooks up.

Mansa is eating our beef in the east

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Our corner is should be pretty barb free, though there is an Indian archer trapped in the northeast. Buddhism is spread into our territory and it is the religion of the Indians and the Malinese. I did not covert. Judaism was founded in a distant land.

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I say: try it! Why not? We're traders and we've nothing really useful to build else. It's important to connect the marble of course and maybe to use the :whipped:. But what does it cost us to try...

Otherwise some nice turns. It seems like we've some powerful cities. Let's hope for the temple because then the cultural challenge is easily won.

On Tokugawa: He's not that introverted guy from CivIV anymore. He indeed has become nicer. We should seriously think about whom we want to make our friends...

I am not capable of playing until Monday morning. So please skip or swap me as required.
 
Got it. I'll build our next city on Strauss' purple dot at the very western edge of our continent. If we get Colossus oceantiles will give us 3 gold, and maybe there's extra fish.. I'll go for the Oracle.
 
Well if you try to build the oracle it would give us gold, which isn't half bad. However I would not whip or chop because I just can't see this happening on monarch. It's 1000BC the marble isn't hooked up and it isn't even started.

My suggeestion is to focus on city growth and maybe get some axemen. We have to go to war sooner or later, we can't slug it out on this tiny peninsula forever. :hammer:
 
karr1255 said:
Well if you try to build the oracle it would give us gold, which isn't half bad. However I would not whip or chop because I just can't see this happening on monarch. It's 1000BC the marble isn't hooked up and it isn't even started.

Whipping would be really is ok as, differently to previous Civs, a building is built at the end of your turn and not in the beginning. Thus if you have 1 turn left, it is built. So whipping, buying etc. would be very ok because it guarantees us to get it. Even just-in-time chops :)
You would have to wait for the BIDAL messages though before you want to whip, else you may be very sorry.

karr1255 said:
My suggeestion is to focus on city growth and maybe get some axemen. We have to go to war sooner or later, we can't slug it out on this tiny peninsula forever. :hammer:

I agree that this won't be our maximimum extent and that we have to think about expansion (and defense) rather sooner than later.

But I disagree with a need for wars as business-as-usual. We are traders! Expanding at the costs of potential trading partners should not be done without political reason, and if it only is "we offered you three trades and you declined" or "you are annoyed with us so why bother". If someone is trading with us very reliably and shows a good attitude (>= pleased) we should not go to war.
 
Eventually i didn't go for Priesthood and Oracle, because our other city's should have nothing to build, so i went for Pottery (granary) and Sailing (trading post). Our capital only has 2 good tiles, and after barrack i had to choose between warriors or a settler, choose the last.

970 BC Uppsala gets buddhism, good for culture fight with Mansa.

955 BC Uppsala gets cow back with borderexpansion.

865 BC Marble ready. Open borders with Mansa, good for business.

805 BC Pottery > Sailing

775 BC Asoka asks us to convert to Buddhism, agree cause this means good relations with our two nearest leaders.

760 BC Copper ready

700 BC Uppsala can build the Temple of Artemis without chopping in 16 turns. After Sailing i suggest to go for Writing, our foodrich city in the west can easily take two scientists. Uppsala after Temple of Artemis > Great Lighthouse ?
Stonehenge and Great Wall have been build, Oracle not! If i had gone for it, the build now would have been at 2/3 i think...



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