STR-03 Viking Traders
- Thread starter Strauss
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Pvblivs
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I played 15 turns (25 BC - 200 AD), Strauss. It's just that after turn 10 nothing noteworthy happened except my approaching Timbuktu.
angeleyes
mood indigo
Open borders with Tokugawa (!), commerce goes +3 up.
Give Birka, our fishcity, 2 scientists and emphasis not to whip it to much.
Bjorkvin is working worthless tiles so this city will be whipped (trading post, library)
First turn Iron Working comes in and Nidarus has iron.
Research Metalcasting (why did we research IW first?)
Second turn we conquer Timbuktu at the cost of five axemen (there were three defending skirmishers but with 60% defencebonus)
Make contact with Mansa and get the following:
A few turns later we already get open borders with Mansa again.
Send a galley and a warrior to scout Toku and Asoka.
Galley sails along Delhi and this city looks like our next victim, with Great Lighthouse and the Mahhabodhi...
Revolt to Organized religion.
Discover another civilization (Hatsheput?) but can't make contact..
At the end of my turns we get Metalcasting, Uppsala stars Forge
If next player wants to chop it to get it quicker, he can get Mathematics for Alphabet from Toku or Mansa.
Will we get the Colossus?
Give Birka, our fishcity, 2 scientists and emphasis not to whip it to much.
Bjorkvin is working worthless tiles so this city will be whipped (trading post, library)
First turn Iron Working comes in and Nidarus has iron.
Research Metalcasting (why did we research IW first?)
Second turn we conquer Timbuktu at the cost of five axemen (there were three defending skirmishers but with 60% defencebonus)
Make contact with Mansa and get the following:
A few turns later we already get open borders with Mansa again.
Send a galley and a warrior to scout Toku and Asoka.
Galley sails along Delhi and this city looks like our next victim, with Great Lighthouse and the Mahhabodhi...
Revolt to Organized religion.
Discover another civilization (Hatsheput?) but can't make contact..
At the end of my turns we get Metalcasting, Uppsala stars Forge
If next player wants to chop it to get it quicker, he can get Mathematics for Alphabet from Toku or Mansa.
Will we get the Colossus?
Strauss
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Things are looking good. @ Delhi being our next victim: probably yes, but that is still some time away. He is not a direct threat like Mansa was so we should leave him in peace for now. We do need to keep a close watch on him that he doesn't become too advanced.
Will play now.
Will play now.
Pvblivs
Scriptor
Asperger said:
Because it really wasn't clear that we could capture Timbuktu in the beginning of your turn when I had to decide what to research next. When I decided I saw instead that Timbuktu had 7 defenders. We would hardly have managed to take down 7 skirmishers at 40, not to even mention 60% at the next turn. This only supported my decision.
I even though about Mathematics and Construction... But I saw that IW at least helped us a little (with its bonus for Metal Casting).
Only because we moved to Gao first and assembled our troops behind the borders somehow Mansa was too sure he could hold his capital, smoked some of his
stuff and pulled his defenders off.I hoped this would happen but I couldn't foresee it. Thus I researched Iron Working in hope for iron and swords rather than the twice as expensive Metal Casting without immediate advantage. I know that the
on my side was to gamble for iron rather than to go for something sure like forges.
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IT (425): Both Mansa and Asoka have Alphabet, so I trade it to Toku for Mathematics.
I switch research to Code of Laws, we need some Courthouses more than the Great Library.
Turn 2 (455): I check the trade screen and trade Rice to Asoka for Silk.
Don’t forget that we’re traders, so check that trade screen every now and then.
Turn 5 (500): I hear a strangely familiar music. Does Warlords re-use a Civ3 tune?
Turn 6 (515): We’re only Mediocre in culture according to some Herodotus.
Turn 8 (545): Hanging Gardens BIDL.
Turn 10 (575): Another Civ3 tune.
Turn 11 (590): CoL comes in.
I go for Currency, it gives one extra trade route. Let’s stay in character here.
Turn 15 (650): The Colossus is due in 3 turns. We're almost sure to grab it with an apparent monopoly on Metal Casting.
On my final turn, the yellow borders pop and we meet Shaka of the Zulu. Since this is my first time at Warlords, I don’t know his personality, but I’m thinking he’s not the nicest guy around. I do make a nice trade with him though:
His lands:
The known world:
Our trades:
I switch research to Code of Laws, we need some Courthouses more than the Great Library.
Turn 2 (455): I check the trade screen and trade Rice to Asoka for Silk.
Don’t forget that we’re traders, so check that trade screen every now and then.
Turn 5 (500): I hear a strangely familiar music. Does Warlords re-use a Civ3 tune?
Turn 6 (515): We’re only Mediocre in culture according to some Herodotus.
Turn 8 (545): Hanging Gardens BIDL.
Turn 10 (575): Another Civ3 tune.
Turn 11 (590): CoL comes in.
I go for Currency, it gives one extra trade route. Let’s stay in character here.
Turn 15 (650): The Colossus is due in 3 turns. We're almost sure to grab it with an apparent monopoly on Metal Casting.
On my final turn, the yellow borders pop and we meet Shaka of the Zulu. Since this is my first time at Warlords, I don’t know his personality, but I’m thinking he’s not the nicest guy around. I do make a nice trade with him though:
His lands:
The known world:
Our trades:
Strauss
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And just over 3 hours after his last turnset, Pvblivs is UP again
Roster:
1) Strauss --> just played
2) Pvblivs --> UP!
3) karr1255 --> on deck
4) Bede
5) Asperger
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Roster:
1) Strauss --> just played
2) Pvblivs --> UP!
3) karr1255 --> on deck
4) Bede
5) Asperger
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angeleyes
mood indigo
Strauss said:
Our science rate was 50%, that's not bad, and courthouses can wait and the GL not...
Shaka is not a nice person, but if he attacks someone, we aren't obliged to support him (now we trade with him), not ?
I expect Pvblivs to play tonight
@Pvblivs, i researched of metalcasting for the Colossus, not for forges.
Never seen three successive turns so quickly
angeleyes
mood indigo
We also can get a lot of money from Asoka and Mansa...
Pvblivs
Scriptor
Asperger: Yes, I know. I would never have gone for the Collossus as I didn't know Timbuktu would fall.
And no, not tonight, maybe next night, Tuesday night latest.
Nice turnsets so far, guys - I've got it!
And no, not tonight, maybe next night, Tuesday night latest.
Nice turnsets so far, guys - I've got it!
Pvblivs
Scriptor
Ummm... could you please again swap with me, karr? I definitely can play on Wednesday but neither now nor tomorrow.
And please schedule my holidays from 4th to 15th of October. The mediterranean awaits my presence.
And please schedule my holidays from 4th to 15th of October. The mediterranean awaits my presence.
Pre turn - I look over everything and notice that we get +9 relations with Asoka from religion. 
Has this religious bonus become even stronger in warlords?
Also some micro of city tiles, mostly from working sea tiles towards cottages.
T1 - With 1 move of the work boat I meet another trading partner and the founder of Judaism:
He is the score leader and has a pretty good tech advantage. That should change a little though, once our new land starts kicking in.
And in Shakas capitol I spot this:
But he's missing alphabet for literature so GL might still be possible.
T2 - I start chopping 2 forests around Walata because it's total junk right now.
T3 - A big wonder for us completes![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
And I have to micro all cities again to use the power of sea tiles
T4 - We surpass Huayna in score but his tech lead is pretty big.
T5 - I trade metal casting to Mansa for calendar and 200 gold. We start to get into happines problems and the gold will give us literature fast.
T6 - Currency done and I continue literature. But Shaka has alphabet now and the great engineer is still sitting in his capitol, while Toku has literature.
T7 - Literature done in 1 and look at our standings after colossus and currency.
T8 - Literature in and with some micromanaging of our capitol the GL will be done in 10turns. I set research to compass and we break even at 50% research.
T9 - zzz
T10 - Set Uppsala for growth and let it build an axeman so we don't drop too hard in power. Research up to 50%(+10).
T11 - Another courthouse done. Research up to 60%(+5).
T12 - Shaka still doesn't have literature. Open borders with Huayna.
T13 - Great Prophet born in Uppsala. I let him sit in Nidaros for now.
T14 - zzz - Research up to 60%(+10)
T15 - Compas done and research is set towards civil service (9 turns with profit). The GL had 3 turns left but I whipped it so it's safe. Toku had the tech for ages and Shaka still the GE so I think it's the best move.
The Great Library will complete on the next turn. Huaynas tech lead isn't nearly as big, he has some cheap techs on us but stuff like monarchy only costs us 3 turns.
Our cities are all set on growth and commerce (manually though I never use the city manager). I suggest to continue a heavy focus on micro management because the colossus has a lot of potential. I also started building some harbors, Uppsala has trading routes of +5 from Osaka and +5 from Tokyo without one.
We also need to discuss what to do with the great prophet. Christianity and Taoism are gone already.
Has this religious bonus become even stronger in warlords?Also some micro of city tiles, mostly from working sea tiles towards cottages.
T1 - With 1 move of the work boat I meet another trading partner and the founder of Judaism:
He is the score leader and has a pretty good tech advantage. That should change a little though, once our new land starts kicking in.
And in Shakas capitol I spot this:
But he's missing alphabet for literature so GL might still be possible.
T2 - I start chopping 2 forests around Walata because it's total junk right now.
T3 - A big wonder for us completes
And I have to micro all cities again to use the power of sea tiles
T4 - We surpass Huayna in score but his tech lead is pretty big.
T5 - I trade metal casting to Mansa for calendar and 200 gold. We start to get into happines problems and the gold will give us literature fast.
T6 - Currency done and I continue literature. But Shaka has alphabet now and the great engineer is still sitting in his capitol, while Toku has literature.
T7 - Literature done in 1 and look at our standings after colossus and currency.
T8 - Literature in and with some micromanaging of our capitol the GL will be done in 10turns. I set research to compass and we break even at 50% research.
T9 - zzz
T10 - Set Uppsala for growth and let it build an axeman so we don't drop too hard in power. Research up to 50%(+10).
T11 - Another courthouse done. Research up to 60%(+5).
T12 - Shaka still doesn't have literature. Open borders with Huayna.
T13 - Great Prophet born in Uppsala. I let him sit in Nidaros for now.
T14 - zzz - Research up to 60%(+10)
T15 - Compas done and research is set towards civil service (9 turns with profit). The GL had 3 turns left but I whipped it so it's safe. Toku had the tech for ages and Shaka still the GE so I think it's the best move.
The Great Library will complete on the next turn. Huaynas tech lead isn't nearly as big, he has some cheap techs on us but stuff like monarchy only costs us 3 turns.
Our cities are all set on growth and commerce (manually though I never use the city manager). I suggest to continue a heavy focus on micro management because the colossus has a lot of potential. I also started building some harbors, Uppsala has trading routes of +5 from Osaka and +5 from Tokyo without one.
We also need to discuss what to do with the great prophet. Christianity and Taoism are gone already.
Pvblivs
Scriptor
I've got it
Pvblivs
Scriptor
I'd settle the prophet, what do you think? The longer we wait the less he'll be of worth for us...
angeleyes
mood indigo
If we intend to attack Delhi and/or Djenne in the near future, we can use him there for the shrine.
I propose to build (and whip) markets in our foodrich city's, they will need, and can use, more specialists.
As traders, aren't we obliged to possess the Great Lighthouse (as soon as possible)?
I propose to build (and whip) markets in our foodrich city's, they will need, and can use, more specialists.
As traders, aren't we obliged to possess the Great Lighthouse (as soon as possible)?
