stSBNES3: A Place in the Shade

Stormbringer

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1908 - A Place in the Shade

Here is the link to the previous thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=97628

Rules:

I don't know how many here remember the good days when NES was about writing a good story and creating history of the world together instead of about winning, but I am going to do my best to bring those days back. This NES is not a strategy war game, it is a game for fun for those who want to write stories, conduct diplomacy and have fun together making history.

Updates:

If you go read the end of the previous thread you will see a weird update system in which I do orders as I receive them, not necessarily waiting for all of them. We will continue using it. It was developed by Jason (thank you) and works like this:
about once a week we have a major update which is the change of the year, sum of of everything that happened, etc. You send economic orders once ever major update. You can send military orders and they will be carried out faster. It does not take a whole year for France to invade Luxemburg. So after it is done, I will post a short Newspaper Story about it, and you can send more orders. If two PC players are in conflict I will wait for military orders from both before doing it. Will be kept realistic. Trust me, I heard all complaints you could possibly imagine about this system, but it proved to work well, and most players liked it, so work with me on it.


Economy:


Economy Sizes:
Depression
Recession
Failing
Stable
Growing
Prosperous
Outstanding
and anything else I feel like.

How much can you do with each economy? Depends on you. You can always order anything you want to be done. Even with failing economy you can order 15 things to be done, and they will be done to the best of your nation's ability, which in that case would not be very good. Or you could focus on one-two things and do them properly, totally up to you. How do you increase economy? Figure it out, reforms, projects, stories, anything else you come up with, I am open to, but no simple orders: "increase economy"

Trade:

A good way to stimulate economy, dont you think? Direct benefits? None really since veryone trades with everyone and this just simulates a more intense trade agreement. Oh, on trade agreements, those can also be good to help economy.

Industry:

It is split up into Factory and Port industry (Thank You Jason) and it is a number (one of the few in this NES). Just a number of factories and ports in your nation. The more, the better for production, building, etc, but try to make sure they have modern parts and such. A factory built in 1885 will not be too effective come 1910, and so if some of your factories and ports disapear, that is why, they are simply obsolete and outdated.

Armed Forces:

I will do army sizes by number, like in StJNES4 (one of my all time favorites, thank you Jason again), I like it that way.
There are unit types, again, you descide what. I will have infantry, cavalry, armored cars, tanks. Artillary is asumed to be there 100 guns per division (10k men). All else is up to you.
Training, again, you can train them, there will be levels of how well trained troops are, it helps. How do you do it? Not by just showering people with money, that leads to corruption and nothing else.

Navy:

Traning and increasing is done the same way as the army. Specific types of ships for the moment are destroyers and dreadnaoughts, thats it, make more yourself.

Air Force:

Just simple planes for now in the most advanced nations. The rest follows exactly with the army and navy.

Training:

Untrained, Poor, Moderate, Good, Veteran

To keep a Modearate army you must always be at least at Stable Economy, Growing for Good, and Prosperous for Veteran.

Training an army takes a 1-3 turns, depending on the size of the army, and the larger the army the more it will cost. If you stop spending money on upkeep of the army, training will go down. Simple? Not really, its all very abstract, but you will deal (pssst. write stories, they help)

Exactly the same for the navy and airforce

Generals, Admirals, Marshalls:

Taking them out of the stats. If you want them - write stories about them, and I will use them. Everyone go to the first NES and read Panda's stories about Lord Seymore, and the reward he got for them - he held Hong Kong against overwhelming odds. So write stories, make up generals, be creative.

Conscription and Mobilization:

Conscription gets you more people, but they are worse then untrained army. You can institute mandatory military service in your country, but it will upset the population and will limit your training to poor, but will give you more troops.
You need to say if you are going to mobilize the reserve troops that your country has, and it will give you quite a bit of troops, but will almost paralyze the economy. Do not expect to stay mobilized and be improving anything but the military, and even that, not very well.

Education:

Replaced by literacy, another number (oh no!) and this time a percent of literacy in your nation. The higher the better. You make up your own advances, so the higher literacy means you research them faster

Advances:

Describe them, and then I will tell you how much time they will take. Don't forget to allocate funds to them, or they will not get done, or will get done not quite as well as you invisioned.

Projects:

Work like wonders with one change. You say what it does, I say how long it will take. Again, dont forget to pay the workers, etc. otherwise things dont get done very well.
 
History of the Great War, 1896-1908​

1896
March, Russian Empire grants Poland independance and Polish rebels continue the revolts and protests in Germany.
April, Germany is forced to declare war on Poland due to Poland's constant attacks on Germany. Russia was only waiting for that and delcares war on Germany.
June, Military actions start, the world still hopes for a short war as Russian troops march into Austria and Ausria is forced into the war.
July, France joins the war on Austria's and Germany's side, UK declares war against France.
September, Warsaw falls to Germans, war is going poorly for the UK, Austria pushes against Bulgaria and destroys the country.
December, The winter slows the war down, Russia is preparing a major offensive, Austria and Turkey are arguying over the situation in the Balkhans.

1897
February, Spanish troops march and annex Portugal. France refuses to recognize it, and so Spain sides with UK in the war
April, US warship in Havana bay is destroyed. US sees it as an attack and declares war on Spain, siding with Germany and Austria in the war.
June, Portugal surrenders. Russia launches a giant counter-offensive into Germany, and Turkey is finally brought in on Russia's side. Austrian defenses collapse

Overview of the War to this Moment:
Germany, Austria, France, Portugal, USA vs. Russia, UK, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, Spain

August, Mexico signs an alliance with the USA and Germany, Mexican troops seize Beliez while US troops seize various Carribean islands.
November, Russian counter offensive ends with almost a million dead and most of Poland devastated. Russian comanding officer removed from command.
December, Another break in the war, Sudafrica throws their lot in with the apearantly winning Germany and seizes the British ports in the south. China agrees to help the UK

1898
April, By this time UK has lost all posessions in the Carribean, Spain lost Cuba and Phillipines to the US, and Austria has swallowed up Bulgaria for good.
May, Turkey assaults an Austrian fortress and the Turkish Sultan is killed in the process. Same week Russian forces surrender at Minsk, and Germany pushes into Russia.
July, Netherlands take the chance and seize Belgium. Belgium asks Germany for protection and reseives it. Amsterdam stormed just a while later.
October, The first phase of the war is over. Results:
Spain triumphant over Portugal, but loses to US and give up colonies.
Austria victorious in the Balkans, all the way south to Istanbul.
German armies are as far into Russia as Smolensk.
Netherlands have been destroyed.
UK lost most Carribean colonies and the war in South Africa.
Peace Negotiations begin

1899
January, Peace negotiations break down, and British troops land in Normandy.
March, Germany is unable to help France, fighting the Russians, so by March the British occupy Paris. French military collapses, and what is left is willing to follow the new government.
May, France officially surrenders and gives up large colonial holdings to Turkey and Spain. Enters the war on the side of England.
July, New constitution adopted in England, Russia frowns upon the liberal ideas in it. France is forced to adopt a simular one.
October, Joint Russian and Turkish forces overturn the German tide. Germany is simply unable to match the numbers. Minsk again in Russian hands.
December, Mexico and the USA prepare an attack on the UK. Mexico seizes Hawaii

1900
February, British tanks enter service and Germany is forced to revert even more troops to the West Front.
March, Joint Mexican-American invasion of the UK fails. Both nations seek peace and it is granted. Russia further infuriated at the UK because they wanted to gain Alaska back.
May, Russian forces suffering huge casualties push into Poland, Turkish forces bareley hold Istanbul.
August, Spain accepts the peace with Americans, focuses on Germany and Austria.
November, Stalemate on the Western Front, and UK and France agree to Peace with Germany. Russia is outraged.

1901
February, a Russo-Turkish attack frees most of Bulgaria from the Austrians.
April, Germans once again march into Poland.
May, Spanish troops land at Venice, and begin a long battle into Austria.
August, Turkey defeats Austrian forces in Albania, Russia stops German advance.
September, Freed from the European War, the UK focuses on the Sudafircans and begins to re-take the cities, one by one.
December, Tired and feeling betrayed, Russia, Turkey, and Spain launch a winter assault into Austira, surprising the Austrians and getting to within a few hundred kilomteres of Vienna.

1902
January, Austrians introduce the bi-plane, but it is too late to save them
March, Austria accepts surrender, and German troops are being re-organized to defend borders with Austria
May, Instead of attacking from Austria, Russians attack from Poland and re-take Warsaw.
September, Germany accepts peace with Russia, the war seems to be over.

1903
January, conditions of the peace are being negotiated in Berlin. UK and France are invited to participate. They demand restoration of Germany and elections in all nations, with no rparations to Russia. Russia who feels as tho they are the once who wn the war walks out.
March, Russian forces occupy Berlin and force an unconditional surrender from Germany. UK and France prepare for war with Russia
August, Under UK's protecton the Netherlands are restored gaining all of Belgium. France demands return of its colonies lost to Spain and Turkey, both nations refuse and form an alliance with Russia.
December, Poland is resurected by Russia and Germany is left to its own destiny as the last of Russian troops leave the country.

1904
February, Austria is taken apart. Yugoslavia is created, Romania and Turkey gain huge amounts of land, but there is still a dsipute between Romania and Austria.
April, UK demands liberal reforsm in Austria and Germany. Russia refuses and both nations again send troops into Germany, no fighting breaks out.
September, Turkey moves in to occupy Greece, UK, France and USA send forces to prevent it. The two alliances are almost thrown to war.

1905
January, German Empire resurected by vote. Kaiser asks Russia for help.
March, UK and France declare the elections in Germany illegal, and declare war.
July, Russian troops are sent into Germany to defend it.
October, After months of fighting Russia and UK finally work out a deal, fighting stops, Germany is left once again in ruins.
December, UK troops land in Austria to try and froce democratic elections, Turkish troops march into the country and fighting start.

1906
January, Russia joins the Turks in the war. UK declares war on Russia, alliances follow suit.
March, Russian fleet defeated off the coast of Denmark, Austria and Germany both stay out of the war.
June, Turkey and Perisa begin a war, Persia is sponsored by the UK
October, the Russo-Brit war is finally over, not much changed, but the tensions remain high.
Decembe, Britian is having a hard time fighting up through Boer lands. The coast is almost all British, but not much more. Cape Town is still in Boer hands.

1907
February, Cape Town taken, but UK is suffering a lot of problems in Africa
April, Russia is still helping Poland, Germany refuses to accept peace with them, no clear border between the two nations
July, Romania and Austria clash head to head in the conflict that they put aside before, but the dispute comes out again
October, Japan invades Korea and quickly takes the country, Taiwan is next, and UK refuses to help China defend the island.

1908

So here is the deal, the conservaitve nations, lead by Russia, Turkey, and Spain want to put the world together back the way it was in 1885, with Conservativism in power, no liberal ideas, etc. They alos feel betrayed in the war bu UK and France who left and so the Conservatives had to fight Gemany alone.

Liberals, led by the UK, feel they did the right thing to save their citizens. They want liberal and democratic ideas to spread as much as possible and dispise the old empires of Russia and Turkey.

Welcome to the Cold War​

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Red - Marxist Communists
Dark Red - Anarcho-Communists
Orange - Socialists
Yellow - Liberals
Blue - Conservatives
Violet - Neo-Conservatives
Green - Nationalists
Gray - Fascists
 
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Air Force
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Air Force
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6 armored cars, 5 tanks
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Air Force
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Country Nejd
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Army 15,000 irregulars 3,000 cavalry
Navy 0
Air Force
Training Untrained
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Air Force
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Ports 17
Trade none
Army 8,000 infantry
Navy 4 destroyers
Air Force
Training Poor
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Advances
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Country Romania
Economy Stable
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4 armord cars
Navy 5 destroyers
Air Force
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Advances
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Country Yugoslavia
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Navy
Air Force 2 bi-planes
Training Moderate
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Advances
Projects

Country Switzerland
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4 armored cars
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Air Force 4 bi-planes
Training Good
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Advances
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Factories 32
Ports 21
Trade none
Army 10,000 infantry
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Air Forces
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Economy Prosperous
Factories 80
Ports 70
Trade none
Army 70,000 infantry 18,000 irregulars
Navy 6 destroyers
Air Forces
Training Moderate
Literacy 62
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Country Poland
Economy Growing
Factories 35
Ports 22
Trade none
Army 43,000 infantry, 8,000 cavalry, 12,000 cossacks
Navy 6 destroyers
Air Forces
Training Moderate
Literacy 42
Advances
Projects

Country Austria
Economy Stable
Factories 150
Ports 20
Trade Italy
Army 32,000 infantry, 2,000 cavalry
24 armored cars, 4 tanks
Navy 14 destroyers, 2 dreadnaughts
Air Force 4 bi-planes
Training Moderate
Literacy 62
Advances
Projects

Country Brazil
Economy Stable
Factories 40
Ports 22
Trade none
Army 31,000 infantry 14,000 cavalry

Navy 25 destroyers
Air Force
Training Poor
Literacy 25
Advances
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Country China
Economy Stable
Factories 33
Ports 12
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Army 58,000 infantry, 12,000 cavalry
2 armored cars
Navy 3 destroyers
Air Force
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Advances
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Economy Recession
Factories 82
Ports 41
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35 armored cars, 18 tanks
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Country Italy
Economy Growing
Factories 75
Ports 58
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35 armored cars, 12 tanks
colonial: 8,000 infantry, 2,000 cavalry
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Air Force 6 bi-planes
Training Moderate
Literacy 55
Advances
Projects

Country Netherlands
Economy Prosperous
Factories 75
Ports 83
Trade Portugal, Belgium, France
Army 34,000 infantry
12 armored cars
colonial: 12,000 infantry, 8,000 cavalry
Navy 38 destroyers
Air Force 2 bi-planes
Training Good
Literacy 47
Advances
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Country Russia
Economy Stable
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Ports 28
Trade none
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12 armored cars
Navy 56 destroyers, 6 dreadnaughts
Air Force 6 bi-planes
Training Moderate/Poor/Poor
Admirals 2
Literacy 32
Advances
Projects

Country Spain
Economy Growing
Factories 64
Ports 55
Trade none
Army 64,000 infantry 10,000 cavalry
6 armored cars
colonial: 22,000 infantry
Navy 23 destroyers, 4 dreadnaughts
Air Force 8 bi-planes
Training Moderate
Literacy 22
Advances
Projects

Country Sudafrika
Economy Failing
Factories 87
Ports 50
Trade none
Army 53,100 infantry 2,000 cavalry, 900 boer comandoes

Navy 2 destroyers
Air Force
Training Moderate/Poor/None
Literacy 18
Advances
Projects

Country USA
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Ports 120
Trade none
Army 84,000 infantry 35,000 cavalry
35 armored cars, 20 tanks
colonial: 18,000 infantry, 10,000 cavalry
Navy 60 destroyers
Air Force 20 bi-planes
Training Moderate
Literacy 86
Advances
Projects

Country UK
Economy Growing
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Ports 121
Trade none
Army 84,000 infantry, 34,000 cavalry
34 armored cars, 25 tanks
colonial: 45,000 infantry, 34,000 cavalry
British Expeditionary Force: 20,000 infantry, 5,000 cavalry (veteran)
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Air Force 16 bi-planes
Training Good/Veteran/Moderate
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Advances
Projects

Country Canada
Economy Stable
Factories 42
Ports 20
Trade none
Army 18,000 infantry

Navy 12 destroyers
Air Force 2 bi-planes
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Advances
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Factories 8
Ports 1
Trade none
Army 25,000 irregulars

Navy 0
Air Force
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Literacy 4
Advances
Projects

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Economy Stable
Factories 112
Ports 41
Trade Netherlands
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8 armored cars
colonial: 24,000 infantry, 8,000 cavalry
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Air Force 6 bi-planes
Training Moderate
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Advances
Projects

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Ports 78
Trade none
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4 armored cars
Navy 6
Air Force
Training Moderate
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Advances
Projects

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Factories 75
Ports 35
Trade none
Army 170,000 infantry 28,000 cavalry
2 armored cars
Navy 6 destroyers
Air Force
Training Moderate/Poor/Untrained
Literacy 12
Advances
Projects

Country Mexico
Economy Failing
Factories 152 (strikes)
Ports 95 (strikes)
Army 212,000 infantry 12,000 cavalry
10 armored cars
Navy 28 destroyers
Air Force
Training Poor
Literacy 41
Advances
Projects

Country Columbia
Economy Stable
Factories 52
Ports 24
Trade none
Army 31,000 infantry

Navy 2 destroyers
Air Force
Training Poor
Literacy 24
Advances
Projects
 
third of all here will be alliances, organizations, weapons descriptions, etc.
 
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Confirming Mexico.
 
Claiming China.. *cries because it'll be difficult..* ;)
 
Turkey fo me.
 
Confirming and claiming the United States.
 
Claiming either Australia if it's free, OR rebelling in Australia. Either way, people die.
 
Voting for an Australian dominion is hereby underway. If it is granted, Australia will have full independence, except it will be a permanent ally of the United Kingdom, and a permanent member of the commonwealth. Australia will recognize King Edward as the true and rightful leader, while having its own president and parliament to effectively govern itself.

(I will create the commonwealth soon)
 
Insane_Panda said:
LOL. Australian rebellion? Did the Australians even really care about independence in the early 1900's?

Yes. Infact, in some states, it was getting close to a rebellion when we were finally freed.


Oh, and you mean a Prime Minister, not a President.
 
OOC: the Generals, Admirals, or Marshalls are definetely worth it to write a story about. Lord Seymore and about 30k British Troops defended Hong Kong from nearly 300k Chinese Troops armed with European Rifles...
 
Sure, Panda. Why not. *Runs off to plot betrayals*
 
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