Stuck in a loop?

[Sinine]

My husband and I had the worst Civ game of our lives last night. Within it, we found what look to be two "stuck in a loop" type events. Noble level, if it matters.

One was Stalin somehow being able to spend waaaay more on spies than he could have ever had points for. He was literally destroying buildings and tiles in three of my cities at up to three locations per turn, every turn.

The other was far more upsetting and angering though. It seemed Sitting Bull was caught in some sort of culture bonus loop. My husband had a city producing over 400 culture per turn and his borders were getting pushed back. I had two cities producing near 200 per turn (i sucked this game - I had to expand into jungle ). I was nearly pushed out of both of these cities, one with pop 22 the other with pop 15 and had all applicable culture buildings including Globe Theatre. One city even had four religions in it!!

His borders were expanding about every 5 turns and we were on our last 100 turns of the game. there's NO WAY he was going through the 500/5000 level of culture on those cities. they were pop 15+.

Anyone seen this? Bhruic - HLEP! One more experience like this, and I'm not sure if I'll even load up this game again.

 

[ori]

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There is no way to check what goes on without a or more save(s), could you post some?

 

[Sinine]

Sadly, due to our tempers at 4am last night, it looks like we didn't save the game. would the last known autosave work? =) i'll look into getting that posted soon (tm).

 

[azzaman333]

Sitting Bull was probably aiming for a Culture Victory and as such was generating great artists frequently, pushing back heavily on your borders.

 

[Sinine]

Here's the last save game. Hopefully somebody can tell me what in the world is going on =/

 

[azzaman333]

My husband and I had the worst Civ game of our lives last night. Within it, we found what look to be two "stuck in a loop" type events. Noble level, if it matters.

One was Stalin somehow being able to spend waaaay more on spies than he could have ever had points for. He was literally destroying buildings and tiles in three of my cities at up to three locations per turn, every turn.

Stalin has 18k espionage points, so he is going to be able to do a lot of espionage.

The other was far more upsetting and angering though. It seemed Sitting Bull was caught in some sort of culture bonus loop. My husband had a city producing over 400 culture per turn and his borders were getting pushed back. I had two cities producing near 200 per turn (i sucked this game - I had to expand into jungle ). I was nearly pushed out of both of these cities, one with pop 22 the other with pop 15 and had all applicable culture buildings including Globe Theatre. One city even had four religions in it!!

His borders were expanding about every 5 turns and we were on our last 100 turns of the game. there's NO WAY he was going through the 500/5000 level of culture on those cities. they were pop 15+.

Anyone seen this? Bhruic - HLEP! One more experience like this, and I'm not sure if I'll even load up this game again.

I loaded the game as Sitting Bull, and he was definately focusing on culture. Definately aiming for a cultural win just by looking at the culture graph.

 

[Sinine]

Alrighty. Thanks for looking. This patch has been so frustrating on so many levels... we have yet to install the patch fix, which we'll for sure do this weekend.

Truthfully, I've never played at higher than Noble level, so it might just be that i'm not good at civ4 and I'm dragging my poor hubby down =p

 

[azzaman333]

I suggest focusing a little more on espionage yourself, so you can check the demographics graphs to see what level of attention you're rivals are putting into espionage, culture, power themselves.

 

[Psyringe]

Alrighty. Thanks for looking. This patch has been so frustrating on so many levels... we have yet to install the patch fix, which we'll for sure do this weekend.

Hmm, seems as if you got so (understandably) frustrated about the patch and its bugs, that you attributed effects to it which were actually signs of a competent AI. Perhaps reduce the difficulty level a notch until you feel more comfortable with the new game mechanics, like espionage? I hope your next game is more fun for nboth of you!

 

[Sinine]

hey - there's another question. When you start an MP game, you can change your own difficulty level, but not the AI's level. they are on Noble. What if we wanted to play on Warlord for a game, just for grins? I don't see any way to lower the AI level.

 

[azzaman333]

By lowering your level to warlord, you are playing against warlord level AI I think.